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Polish trans MP Anna Grodzka loses out on deputy speaker job in parliamentary vote

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  1. That There Other David 8 Feb 2013, 12:25pm

    Poland is so behind on this it’s in danger of becoming a total backwater. So much fear of leaving the medieval age behind it’s not funny.

    LOL @ the tarnishing of Polish politicians comment though. Surely that’s why polishing prevents.

    1. That There Other David 8 Feb 2013, 12:26pm

      why, what, it’s all the same for the grammatically challenged….;-)

  2. Pawlowicz is 60 and single and she dares to speak that someone else is no use to the society.

  3. ...Paddyswurds 8 Feb 2013, 1:35pm

    A Polish story about tarnishing …lol ……..Geddit?

  4. Very sad that Poland has chosen a greedy cis politician over an (apparently) honest trans one.

    It is not clear whether the Sejm did so because Ms Grodzka is trans, or because they were reluctant to discipline a politician for greed.

    Either way, the Sejm has impinged on the Palikot Movement’s customary parliamentary rights for a bad reason. Which is a bad step for Poland.

    1. FYI Anna supported Wanda and voted for her to retain the deputy speaker position..

  5. Georg Friedrich 8 Feb 2013, 2:54pm

    One of Deputies in the Polish Parliament, who is originally pastor from Nigeria, has said that vote in favor of Anna Grodzka is for him vote against God. Well, welcome to Nigeria of Europe.

  6. Apparently, Polish lawmakers decided to block Ms Grodzka’s appointment with the excuse that ‘it might offend Catholics’. Such an irrational bigoted attitude is the reason why, similarly, Poland no longer has a vibrant Jewish community with the result that they are much the poorer culturally, artistically and intellectually for driving them away. No wonder the one main goal in many Polish people’s lives is to leave there as soon as they can! Nice people, nasty governments!

    1. Poland have very small Jewish community for 3 reasons:
      – Germans during WW2 made most of their death camps in occupied Poland (half of the Jews in the whole Europe were Poles before WW2)
      – after the war communist government (enforced by USSR) used many of the remaining Jewish people as security officers, agents, etc. Then the government in attempt to please revolting Poles expelled these Jews to Israel in ’68.
      – there were substantial minority of Poles that were antisemitist both before and after WW2. Not on the level of Germans, but still. Now Poland is for Jews the land of graves. Shame, that they seem to think most (or all) Poles are antisemitist, when in reality it’s just vocal minority. Anyway – long story short – Polish-Jewish relations aren’t simple because of history.

      Regarding Grodzka – even the fact that she is in parliament shows Poland isn’t as backward as some people may think. Poland is currently experiencing something like ’60 in USA – change of generations.

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