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Francis Maude: Tories no more split than the country on introducing same-sex marriage

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  1. No more split than the country is one thing, but shouldn’t a political party lead rather than follow public opinion? Both the other major parties managed significant majorities of MPs supporting the Second reading…

    1. de Villiers 7 Feb 2013, 7:37am

      It is amazing that the leader of a party of the right introduced this policy. I cannot imagine a minister in France saying what Mr Maude has said.

      The right in France has been so shocking over this issue in France that I will not vote for them again in the immediate future.

      1. Australian friends of mine are also gobsmacked by the current progress under the Conservatives here by comparison with the Labor government there.

    2. I disagree with you on that point – political parties should follow the public opinion for it is us they represent. Many oppressive regimes try to influence and change the public’s thoughts and ideologies. I think we should be grateful we live in a country where the politicians represent society and their views (or at least meant to). Don’t get me wrong I’m thrilled about the bill passing but its important political parties represent our interests in this country as a whole.

  2. Considering that most polls show a majority FOR in the UK, and the majority of Tories voted AGAINST, then no, Francis. You’re completely wrong!

  3. I’m not really convinced that the Tories that voted against SSM were actually against it.

    The Tory party is full of factions

    - some were trying to make a political point about the EU ,in particular ECHR.
    - some were trying to have a dig at Cameron and show their far right credentials
    - some were just discontented with govt policies and being stuck with the libdems
    etc etc….

    I suspect those Tory MPs that were really against the actual bill itself is a lot less. I just don’t get the Tory party, they just love to make public rebellions just for the sake of them.

    I don’t thinkmost of them care about religious orgs or LGBT rights or marriage, it was just a really good opportunity for them to make a protest vote at the general way the Tory govt is going ie not far enough to the right.

    I agree with Petercat the vast majority of people in the UK are for equal marriage, not a bit like the Tory party.

    1. Yes, some would see it as another example of “political correctness gorn mad” “cultural marxism” “common purpose” activities rather than the much delayed equality that it actually is. Some would even see it as an example of the “nanny state” even though it is extending freedom and choice to both individuals and religions.

  4. Neon Genesis 7 Feb 2013, 2:42am

    John, if you voted against it, then you voted against it. It doesn’t matter what reason you had. They still voted against equality and it’s cowardly for them to hide behind some make believe conspiracy about the EU persecuting Christians when we all know those are lies.

  5. Maude is incorrect.

    The country favours equality by a ratio o about 70:30.

    Parliament favours equality by about 70:30.

    The Tories OPPOSE equality by about 55:45.

    No LGBT person can vote for any Tory candidate who voted no.

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