Matthew Offord MP: Equal marriage ‘will allow the introduction of polygamous marriage’

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  1. Cynic  5 Feb 2013, 6:40pm  Report
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    1. Don’t be an idiot.
    2. And so what if it did?

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  2. Liam the God  5 Feb 2013, 6:41pm  Report
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    “Tory Dogma 101: When you are on the losing end of the argument make a spurious comparison with something totally unconnected.”

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  3. Is he for real? Did black people who demanded equality in South Africa start demanding access to polygamy as well? Bigoted tosser!

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  4. Oh toss off!

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  5. Julian  5 Feb 2013, 7:13pm  Report
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    Is it a fact that in countries where same-sex marriage is legal, the same arguments were/are being used to push for polgygamy/polyandry?

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    1. Neon Genesis  5 Feb 2013, 10:21pm  Report
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      I’m not aware of any to my mind. On the other hand, I can think of several Islamic nations where gay marriage is banned yet polygamy is allowed. So the opposite seems to be true that banning gay marriage leads to polygamy. Polygamy, after all, was sanctioned by God in the bible.

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      1. Don Harrison  7 Feb 2013, 6:32pm  Report
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        In 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3, King David had six wives and numerous concubines.
        In 1 Kings 11:3, King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.
        In 2 Chronicles 11:21, King Solomon’s son Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines.
        In Deuteronomy 21:15 “If a man has two wives, and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons….”
        There are a lot more verses from the Old Testament that allow polygamy, but I think that the above are sufficient enough to prove my point.

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  6. Robert in S. Kensington  5 Feb 2013, 7:39pm  Report
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    Offord needs to name the governments who are considering polygamy. Will be interesting to know just who they are, though I think it will be a very long wait before he comes forward with the facts.

    He’s reading the same script used by Dr. Sharon James and Colin Hart of C4M, verbatim.

    Is he one of those having a ‘gay’ affair on the side I wonder?

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  7. Christopher in Canada  5 Feb 2013, 10:25pm  Report
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    Um… this is not my first comment…

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  8. Stephen  5 Feb 2013, 11:03pm  Report
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    Matthew Offord must NEVER be promoted.

    His bigotry makes him unsuitable to hold any ministerial position

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  9. Thank God he didn’t say the world would end.

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  10. “He also said that it was “not fair” for a cohabiting lesbian married couple to avoid inheritance tax on their property upon the death of one of the women, when two sisters living together would not be entitled to the same benefit.”

    So what he is saying is that it’s alright for opposite sex couples to have this tax exemption compared with two siblings, but not same sex couples?

    What a bigot.

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  11. Another career kamikaze moment brought to you by crass-bigotry ltd. and Christianity.com . His majority at the last election was 106 I bet after that speech he’s pissed off way way more people who voted for him last time and would rather set their pubes on fire than vote for him again

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  12. Carlos  6 Feb 2013, 2:53am  Report
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    This is a facile argument for stasis. Were we to have always listened to this type of argument, we would still be disallowing motor cars on the public highway – indeed, we would still be under an absolute monarch, with no parliament.

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  13. John Jones  6 Feb 2013, 6:57am  Report
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    But there are people already asking for polygamous marriage as a result of this Bill … So what he is saying isn’t ‘crazy’ or ‘bigoted’.

    Only last week a commentator in a piece for this publication wrote: “There remain numerous sexual freedoms to campaign on … re-constructing our ideas of relationships in relation to sex, monogamy and the illusion that only ‘couples’ might want to enter into a state-sanctioned partnership…”.

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/01/25/comment-the-same-sex-marriage-bill-isnt-the-end-of-the-journey-towards-gay-rights/

    So it’s ok for a gay rights campaigner to raise the possibility of polygamy, but when anyone else might then point to this as a potential result of same-sex marriage legislation, he’s called a ‘bigot’. Lazy thinking. Frightening thinking.

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    1. There’s a difference though. We already have marriage, it just wasn’t available to everyone.

      Same sex marriage is about equality.

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  14. (It’s not my first comment either!)

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  15. Polygamy is fine as a lifestyle choice between age-appropriate, health-of-mind, conscenting adults that share equal status and choice in the relationship.

    The major problem with polygamy existed in religious groups who forced children to marry pedofiles.

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  16. lebaleb  6 Feb 2013, 9:49am  Report
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    Allowing heterosexual marriages could also be seen as the start of the ”open-ended process”

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  17. Jamie Caffiera  6 Feb 2013, 9:55am  Report
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    Unfortunately I happen to know from speaking to a number of other MPs personally that these are views shared by a number of them, despite not publicly voicing them.

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  18. Don Harrison  7 Feb 2013, 5:46pm  Report
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    In Exodus 21:10, a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can marry.
    In 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3, King David had six wives and numerous concubines.
    In 1 Kings 11:3, King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.
    In 2 Chronicles 11:21, King Solomon’s son Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines.
    In Deuteronomy 21:15 “If a man has two wives, and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons….”
    There are a lot more verses from the Old Testament that allow polygamy, but I think that the above are sufficient enough to prove my point.

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  19. RBrown  7 Feb 2013, 6:15pm  Report
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    Has he tried debating that line with the Mormons and Muslims?

    Don’t think so . . .

    http://www.rainbow-citizen.com

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  20. With a 106-strong majority in Hendon he is more than likely to lose his seat in 2015, especially for his bigoted outburst

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