“Williams Hague said the Conservative Party would look out of touch if they failed to support marriage equality” – out of touch? Surely not!
“Michael Fabricant, a Tory vice-chairman, said he was “disturbed” to hear of ministerial aides warning backbenchers that their careers would be dented if they failed to support the government.”
Because they will die out faster than the dinosaurs when their vote is known that’s why. No one in the Conservative Party is going to harm their careers. It’s the younger voters who are going to be watching these old fogies like hawks who will.
Tories are revolting…. heh
Oh dear. Dave is between a rock and a hard place. He has taken this risk partly to remodel the party’s well-deserved bad reputation. This revolt shows that the core of the party is still the same old nasty Tories.
130 Tory MPs voting for equal marriage is by no means a bad number, I was expecting far less, maybe 50. Nice surprise amid all the histrionics and hysteria coming from the opposition today. They know it’s going to happen hence their desperate rants. Expect more as the vote approaches.
I’m thrilled that Cameron is not caving in. The Evening Standard last year said if he hangs in, it will get through. I firmly believe it. He is on the right side of history and so too are MPs voting a resounding ‘yes’ tomorrow.
I think there’ll definitely be 100 plus Tory aye votes. I still think the largest block of Tories tomorrow will vote yes. It’ll be close but I think most anti-Tories will either abstain or stay away. A large number in the middle of all of this won’t want to piss of either side and staying away means they get to do that. In fact it wouldn’t surprise me if more Tories stayed away than actually voted
Agreed – at one time I feared all the backbenchers might vote against, but the party leadership has used a lot of political capital to pressure the waverers.
I’m also sure that bobbleobble is right that many antis will abstain.
Although the Bill will go through in the Commons, it is still really important that people keep emailing their MPs, and asking friends and family to do the same. http://www.c4em.org.uk/
The bigger the majority, the more pressure the Lords will be under to approve this. I think it is almost certain that the government will use the Parliament Act to force this through if necessary, but even that means delay and much more media unpleasantness. A strong yes vote in the Commons will weaken the antis significantly.
I don’t think the lords will stop this going through – remember the civil partner act started off in the lords, it wasn’t a gov sponsored bill.
Just because the lords is full of old men doesn’t mean they wont vote in favor.
The BBC reports that in response to the 23 Tory dinosaurs who wrote protesting against SSM to Cameron yesterday, 50 other Tory party chairs have written today in favour……Nice…
I laughed :-)
we NEED………Civil Marriage open to same sex couples and Civil Partnerships to opposite sex couples
job done, now listen up and act
Ban it and you’ll get DUMPED in the next election. LGBT people are all voters.
That is why Mr Cameron is sticking with it, he is too far down the road to change his mind even if he wanted too.
I think the Tories have already damaged their election prospects for 2015 with out the help of legalising marriage equality. The really isn’t going to make a difference!
For the first time in my life, I actually have some admiration for a Tory MP. david Cameron has show remarkable courage over this issue and. credit where credit is due. In the face of rabid, bigoted and plain homophobic opposition from his constituency officers, he has told them, in no uncertain terms, to B Off. Well done, Mr. C. Worry not. By the time of the next election, most of your opponents will have forgotten they were ever so worked up about this issues.