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  1. Hodge Podge 4 Feb 2013, 1:29pm

    Well, I’m not a single issue voter, and I’m not going to be voting Tory any time soon. But if it was a majority Labour government, would they have bothered with marriage equality?

    1. pondering over these “what ifs” is completely pointless. It would probably have been unlikely if Gordon Brown was still running the shop, but all the Labour leadership contenders were asked and called for its introduction. There’s a lot more internal pressure within to legislate for this within Labour than the Conservatives. It would have happened eventually. I think it would have been less likely to happen under a majority Tory government than a majority Labour government. Don’t forget nearly all the opposition is coming from the Tory backbenches.

    2. Tara Hewitt 4 Feb 2013, 5:29pm

      It was in the Conservative Contract for Equality which was part of Party’s wider manifesto in 2010 and the only major Party to include equal marriage in their manifesto. What ever had happened equal marriage was always going to be introduced in this parliament by a conservative lead government be that a coalition or majority one. Labour had 13 years to address this issue and didnt. When Labour introduced the compromising Civil Partnerships they also ignored the issues Transgender people faced and I am proud that its a conservative lead government addressing these issues. I would also like to thank MPs such as Lynne Featherstone in the Lib Dems who has been a fantastic advocate for equal marriage and the Transgender community generally Thank You! x

      1. BananaTwix 4 Feb 2013, 5:42pm

        “Labour had 13 years to address this issue and didnt”

        Labour didn’t do this, Labour didn’t do that. Same old same old from a Tory. Broken records the lot of you.

        Lets not forget you were a Labour party member before…

        1. theotherone 4 Feb 2013, 6:53pm

          broken record? but this is a good point: labour didn’t do anything about gay marriage indeed gordon brown said no and everyone backed him

        2. Tara Hewitt 4 Feb 2013, 9:02pm

          Labour also deliberatly ignored trans people when they pushed through civil partnerships meaning we would have to continue to have marriages annulled before we were legally allowed to change our gender. This isnt a broken record this is a statement of fact im sorry that that doesnt sit with you too well but its the truth. In first term the Lib Dems and the Conservatives have introduced the first ever transgender action plan and introduced equal marriage bill which will stop the travisty of trans people having to annul their loving relationships just to be allowed to be themselves. Am I upset and unhappy a large minority are against it yes but I am proud that its a conservative lead government introducing it and following it through.

          1. theotherone 4 Feb 2013, 9:47pm

            get used to it tara, any mention of trans rights here gets you negitive votes

          2. Tara, Please don’t insist on this disingenuous notion that Labour somehow sold us short by introducing Cps. There is NO WAY that Equal Marriage would have had ANY chance at all of getting through in 2004 and many couples would be left without rights in all the time since. CPs were an important stepping stone and were appropriate for the mood of the time. Having said that, I do admire David Cameron and some others in the Conservative Party for driving this through but the many opposing voices in your party convince me it has not changed enough to warrant my support or trust.

          3. Tara Hewitt 5 Feb 2013, 10:57pm

            Labour had a majority Cal so if it wouldnt of got through and trans people rights protected then says alot about labour too!

  2. This is the same Tara Hewitt who in October wrote so passionately – but unconvincingly – of how the Tories were not as Labour painted them.
    “Labour often condemn the Tories for their voting history and historic views that existed in the past; however we are living in 2012 and have a modern progressive liberal Conservative Party – a very different one to the picture that is so often shaped by left-wing activists and Labour members”
    We will see about that, won’t we, in the number of Tory votes against and abstentions.

    1. We don’t really need to “see about that”, we can look to their other policies to see that their modernising has brought them into, perhaps, the 20th century but not quite the 21st (and still some of them are stuck in the 19th).

    2. Tara Hewitt 4 Feb 2013, 5:26pm

      The Conservative party has moved forward, its a conservative government introducing this legislation something Labour failed to do in 13 years and its a conservative government thats addressing the issues transgender people faced with civil partnerships again something labour failed to do in 13 years. This letter is thanking the Prime Minister for holding firm against small minority of people who live in a bubble and don’t represent the membership of the party as a whole. My experience is most members are very supportive of LGBT people and Equal Marriage.

      1. theotherone 4 Feb 2013, 7:38pm

        i know tara on facebook and i think she can vouch for me not being a tory but on the issue of gay and trans rights the party has moved way ahead of labour.

        1. Jaigurufezo 4 Feb 2013, 10:10pm

          Tara, I hope your debating skills are better than your spelling and grammar otherwise you’ve no chance of realising your dream of becoming an MP!

          1. Tara Hewitt 4 Feb 2013, 11:52pm

            Forgive my dyslexia but the conservative party are obviously alot more inclusive than you with such an ignorant comment.

  3. Well done the tories for doing this. I applaud them. However, I will never vote tory and I hope they lose the next election. Cameron is just getting on the equality bandwagon to garner the gay vote.
    Let us not forget, that the tories are still cutting public services and most of all, they have changed the NHS, something they promised in their election manifesto not to do!
    This has had negative effects on vunerable trans people. I personally know of three who will lose their rented flats because of the changes to the housing benefit system says they should only be paid enough to rent a room in a house!! On top of that there is a huge fear that with GP commissioning, Certain unsympathetic doctors who now hold the purse strings will try and put off or delay treatment of trans people, causing yet more anguish to them.
    A true caring party, (not really)

    1. Tara Hewitt 5 Feb 2013, 10:58am

      We have also centralised funding for trans surgery and introduced first transgender action plan trying to turn this round onto the Tories being anti Trans and anti equality is barmy beyond belief!

    2. How qualified are the dreaded ATOS assessors in dealing witth gender and ditions.I’m truly scared.

      1. Tara Hewitt 5 Feb 2013, 11:10am

        Being Trans is not a disability!

        1. My ATOS review con cerns my mental health and my paranoia regarding society s attitude to my gender identity.mental health is a disability.

        2. Yes, but there are still plenty of LGBT people who are disabled and facing the brutal benefits system. The Tories may have reluctantly allowed equal marriage to get through, but I will never forgive them for the enormous suffering and death they have directly caused to people with disabilities.

          1. MPs attending who voted AGAINST
            the Same Sex Marriage Bill :
            Con MPs 45 %
            Lab MPs 9 %
            All MPs 27 %
            Male Con MPs 47%
            Female Con MPs 30%
            Source :Guardian Data

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