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  1. Brett Gibson 2 Feb 2013, 12:18pm

    Another small step towards a better life for all gay people! Couldn’t be happier for our brothers and sisters across the Channel. Well done guys!

    1. Expect insanity will prevail in the vatican – the church of the endless hidden molestation of children by its sex starved. power hungy priests

      They can atone for their sins by doing what some Buddists do to protest vile crimes – self immolation. I’m sure RATZInger knows well how to do it – he ran theCDF for a couple decades – successor to the “holy” Inquisition.

      Whats wrong with xtianity from the start – its use of subliminal messaging – using a symbol of torture and death.

  2. Brilliant! The original proposals also included adoption rights, did this pass too?

  3. sorry i’m only half awake and didn’t read the article properly, this is fantastic

  4. Helge Vladimir Tiller 2 Feb 2013, 12:35pm

    Agree with you, B. Gibson! Sunshine in Oslo, Norway today.

  5. Robert in S. Kensington 2 Feb 2013, 12:39pm

    Well done, France! Now take that Tory backbenchers, CoE, RCC, C4M. Next the UK on Tuesday.

    Now lets see if this piece of great news finds a place in the BBC news, Telegraph and Mail. All of those Tory backbenchers voting no are outnumbered and will be responsible for making the nasty party stigma stick like glue.

    1. Equality Network 2 Feb 2013, 1:59pm

      Not the UK on Tuesday, but England and Wales! Unfortunately Scotland’s bill, although published in December, will not reach the Scottish Parliament until May or June. Although it may then catch up a bit of time on the England/Wales bill, as there is only one chamber in the Scottish Parliament.

      The Scottish bill is out for consultation and it’s really important that all supporters of equality with an interest in Scotland reply to the consultation. It’s really easy to do through our webpage:

    2. Yes, well done, France! GREAT NEWS!

      Have just heard that it’s being reported with great interest throughout New Zealand (which is also in the throes of the Same Sex Marriage process) RIGHT NOW that roughly a 100 Tories “are likely to revolt against David Cameron over the Bill”.

      Apparently a soundbite from a Tory MP is being played throughout the country’s NewsTalk stations in which the MP states that “most Tories can’t understand why Cameron is placing so much importance on gay marriage when most people don’t care about, that they’re more concerned about the economy, and so on”.

      Funny, isn’t it. Tory MPs say they are so unconcerned about Same Sex Marriage and so concerned about “the economy” that they’re going to revolt against Cameron because of his support for Same Sex Marriage.

      It’s nothing but furious homophobia.

      We have an interesting week coming up! Can’t wait to hear the final bile pouring forth from the homophobes’ lips in the Commons.

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 2 Feb 2013, 7:22pm

        Funny you should say that. France has a far worse economy than ours, far higher unemployment, yet look what happened today.

    3. Robert, it did find a place on the BBC news. can’t comment on radio of TV but I did find this on my home page

  6. ...Paddyswurds 2 Feb 2013, 12:43pm

    Vive La France .. .. .!

    1. Jerry Joe 2 Feb 2013, 1:09pm

      Liberté, égalité, fraternité !!! This action does the motto true justice

  7. So, how do we think the BBC will report this?

    1. What is their problem? I worked there years ago and it was pretty much London’s biggest gay club. What has happened since? They really have behaved very poorly on reporting the marriage equality debate.

    2. BBC web report –

      Note that the BBC says “Deputies voted 249-97 in favour of redefining marriage …”

      But if you check the Bill you’ll see it says (translation) ” the purpose of this bill is to open the right to marry to persons of the same sex ….”

    3. Also towards the end of the BBC’s web report:

      In September last year, Cardinal Philippe Barbarin, the Roman Catholic archbishop of Lyon, argued that plans to redefine the concept of marriage would open the door to incest and polygamy.

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 2 Feb 2013, 2:00pm

        Well then, it’s incumbent on us to pressure the roman cult and ask for the evidence. The Netherlands has had equal marriage for twelve years. That’s more than long enough to come forward with the evidence providing detailed information as to the number of incestuous and polygamous unions that have occurred and politicians in support of legalising both.

  8. Not really happy with using the word “redefine” as it is the word homophobes like to use. Here is a link –

  9. Vive la France!

  10. Oh my goodness me what amazing news!!! A small change for law, a giant leap for equality. Vive la France!

  11. The french don’t have an established church to deal with.
    Also there are no unelected bishops from said church freeloading in their senate.
    The UK equal marriage law will be fudge and a mess because of the above. I hope the french result is a clean and equal law.
    I fear the UK version will be anything but.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 2 Feb 2013, 1:56pm

      Dropping medically assisted reproduction won’t make it a clean and equal law in my view while married hetero women already enjoy that right. The only concession our bill is making is the quadruple lock affecting only the CoE. Ours will be far from a fudge and a mess as you seem to think. I’ve looked at the bill in its entirety. It seems a pretty iron-clad air-tight piece of legislation. The safeguards backbencher Tories are banging on about are nothing more than fake outrage as a means to try and delay passage if you read the bill and the amendments already in place.

      1. Nicolas of France 2 Feb 2013, 3:40pm

        The law about medically assisted reproduction for lesbian couple is not dropped but only postponed to March to be included into the laws on family

      2. Very glad to hear your thoughts on this Robert. I tried to read the bill but have to admit that I only skimmed some pages because it was too much legalese. I liked that they thought of marriage ceremonies in military chapels.

  12. The BBC News Channel is using “no tax breaks” as an excuse to allow Conservative MPs (including Peter Bone) to rail against marriage equality. Bone was on TV a few minutes ago

    1. They had Burrowes on this morning on the same pretext. They have more or less declared war on LGBT equality. Something that for other groups they simper and pay lip service to.

      1. Absolutely – the BBC is using any and every excuse to attack marriage equality.

        My tweet on this –

        1. That There Other David 2 Feb 2013, 9:01pm

          Meanwhile they’re even posting links to blogs such as the one in this article. Quite astonishing level of pro-Vatican bias going on at Broadcasting House.

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 2 Feb 2013, 6:10pm

      Do they think that we’re really that stupid to believe that Tory backbenchers would vote yes for equal marriage if tax breaks were part of the deal? Of course they woudn’t. Even in that they lie. It will always be the nasty stinking party it’s always been and I don’t care if equal marriage has the support of some conservatives. They’ll never be able to evade the nasty party image with so many bigots on the back bench catering to backward religious and non-religious nutters alike. Wait until Monday rolls around, this nonsense will get even more extreme, exactly what we saw in France up until today. Their UMP conservatives wanted an amendment to support polygamy just to scuttle a vote today. Filthy scum on both sides of the channel.

  13. Vive la France! Liberté, Egalité & Fraternité a tous!

    What can I say – France is really showing how to do things properly!

  14. 249 votes to 97 is a pretty impressive majority !

    Is it all done and dusted by 12 February?

    The timing is also very good, just ahead on the England & Wales vote at Westminster on Tuesday.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 2 Feb 2013, 4:00pm

      Yes, and it’s certainly given the finger to the Roman cult and conservative religious bigots. All that protesting didn’t work for them and their prayers went unanswered. Their god answered with a ‘yes’ vote. Serves them right.

      1. Robert, I love it how you, rightly, keep repeating how that Roman cult needs to be given the finger! It most certainly does!

        1. Robert in S. Kensington 2 Feb 2013, 7:21pm

          Over and over, Eddy, once is never enough. It needs to get the finger over and over once equal marriage passes on Tuesday. Ditto the Tory back benchers. They forget we have long memories for some of them in unsafe constituencies come 2015. They’ll get theirs sooner or later. They can run but they can’t hide. Staying home or abstaining aren’t going to help them either way on Tuesday. That goes for a few Labour too.

    2. Jerry Joe 2 Feb 2013, 4:58pm

      I am not expert on France but according to wiki the National Assembly has 577 seats !! Why the low number ????

      1. bobbleobble 2 Feb 2013, 6:13pm

        It’s Saturday, I expect a lot of MPs were back in constituencies, many of them by design so as not to have to vote one way or the other.

  15. Liberte, egalite, fraternite.

    Well done France.

  16. I stand to be corrected but believe all marriages in france are civil.
    Those who wish to may go on to a church to have it blessed but the marriage itself is conducted by the likes of a mayor or his/her deputy.
    Thus the church cannot claim that marriage ‘belongs’ to them.

    1. You are correct.

    2. Spanner1960 3 Feb 2013, 12:05am

      This is true, but this fact has actually worked against them, because many straight people see it as devaluing civil marriages rather than religious ones as they do here. In UK it’s really only the church complaining, in France it’s everyone, so they have had a considerably harder fight.
      Nevertheless, the French have to be congratulated for seeing sense.

  17. I love living in France with my boyfriend and we have made many wonderful friends since moving here and have never experienced any homophobia and this news is great to hear. Progression for the better. L’égalité pour tous. So it looks like the drinks are on me and my boyfriend at the bar tonight hehe!

  18. Looks like there’s a competition between the French, Scots & English (ok, Wales too) that I’m finally interested in…..hopefully the only losers will be the God-botherers….and that there will be sexy calendars to follow:-)

  19. The yes vote ran at 72%! That warms my heart. Fingers crossed for the England and Wales vote next week.
    My MP supports Equal Marriage! I’m so happy to live in his constituency. I would hate to be represented by someone who can’t see that anything short of equality is unacceptable.

  20. It isn’t mentioned in the article, but I assume they didn’t touch the 2nd paragraph of the article 1 allowing to marry foreigners.

    1. Yes they will be able to marry a foreigner as long as one person is a French national.

  21. Gay Activist Paul Mitchell 2 Feb 2013, 8:26pm

    Well done France!

    There are more votes to come yet, so please do not get too excited remember!

    You have a French Senate to deal with too as well remember!

    The United Kingdom and New Zealand will be next!

    Two US States (Illinois and Delaware) should be the next states to allow same sex marriages!

    Rhode Island will not allow gay marriage because of a bigoted Dixiecrat woman called M. TERESA PAIVA WEED who is the President of the RI state Senate and there are only 11 co-sponsors on the SSM bill. The same with Hawaii there is NO co-sponsors at all on the SSM bill! This is the face of a bigoted and stupid woman that OPPOSES and OBSTRUCTS gay marriage!

    We has the same views as JuLIAR (Julia Gillard) down here in Down Under Convict Land (Australia). Politics and bans on SSM is in a total embarrassin mess in Australia – politicians are resigning one by one even before the Australian Elections in September 2013.

    1. Spanner1960 3 Feb 2013, 12:08am

      Thanks for the heads up, but do you have to be so fucking offensive about it?

      1. Gay Activist Paul Mitchell 3 Feb 2013, 3:50am

        I am just angry about Australia always being behind-the-times on all issues such as still having slow broadband, still banning gay marriage and still allowing corrupt politicians and lawmakers power and money from the Australian Christian Lobby influencing lawmaking in this country! I am angry that gay couples are still not allowed to marry or donate blood here in Australia, I am still very angry that a bill the Gillard Labor Government introduced will legally allow all religious originations can hide behind the bible and there bigoted outdated beliefs and just openly discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity or expression! That is why I am so angry about my country! When New Zealand allows equal marriage, then I am moving to New Zealand! I am a proud gay man, but Australia is being taken over by alien bigots from all corners of the political spectrum! I will continue to vote No 1 for the Green Party! I have been fighting for equal rights for 6 years now!

        1. No doubt these are all valid points, but they’d be taken more seriously if expressed a tad more calmly.

          As they stand, I’m afraid they might as well be written in green ink OR ALL IN CAPITALS.

          Similarly, try discovering where the full stop is on your keyboard…. :-)

        2. Spanner1960 3 Feb 2013, 10:16pm

          Britain is behind the times on many issues, bans gay marriage, allows the church to influence politics and has the slowest broadband in Europe. So what’s news?

    2. Note that weed went to catholic university – a kiss the asser of the pope who covered up the endless molestation of kiddies and UNexcommunicated Bishop Williamson, a holocaust denier.

  22. Helge Vladimir Tiller 2 Feb 2013, 11:42pm

    The Pope is shivering. He is rightly served !

    1. Gay Activist Paul Mitchell 3 Feb 2013, 3:54am

      Give the two finger up and say “fuck you” to the bigoted anti-gay-marriage Catholic Pope at the Vatican!

      Equality means equality!

      Fuck off bigots!

    2. I would suggest doing to him what the church did to perhaps 90,000 heretics during its “holy” Inquisition

      In cause your wondering why some Mulims hate us – they had their own holocaust from the catholic Inquisition from about 1100 to 1500 AD.

      Someone needs a good university to figure out whether xtianity or Islam has killed more people> My guess – Xtianity

  23. Expect insanity will prevail in the halls of vatican – the church of the endless hidden molestation of children by its sex starved. power hungy priests

    They can atone for their sins by doing what some Buddists do to protest vile crimes – self immolation. I’m sure RATZInger knows well how to do it – he ran theCDF for a couple decades – successor to the “holy” Inquisition.

    Whats wrong with xtianity from the start – its use of subliminal messaging – using a symbol of torture and death.

  24. PeterinSydney 3 Feb 2013, 10:43am

    Well done my French brothers and Sisters. You are maintaining your wonderful tradition of humanity and freedom.

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