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Tory rebel says same-sex marriage bill could pass Commons with a majority of 400

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  1. Robert in S. Kensington 29 Jan 2013, 5:50pm

    Let’s hope it is 400 or more. I’m surprised he’d concede such a statement.

    1. Let’s hope it’s not another ploy by the antis to lull us into a false sense of security!

      I don’t trust them and I don’t know what tactics they are going to try next…

  2. Robert (Kettering) 29 Jan 2013, 5:52pm

    With his history then of not liking equality perhaps he’s in the wrong party? Has he ever thought of defecting to the BNP where I’m sure his loathing of eqality will go down well?

    1. His loathing goes down very well in the tory party. Cameron and a few tory allies do not make up a party. Let’s see how many tories vote against our equality. I am sure it will be a majority of them – but I hope I am wrong – and if I am, I may even consider voting for them next time.

  3. Anti-gay, anti-black and anti-women… wow, he sounds like a right gem!

    1. That There Other David 29 Jan 2013, 8:03pm

      Someone maybe needs to explain to him that the stereotype of a Yorkshireman isn’t meant to be real.

  4. GulliverUK 29 Jan 2013, 6:23pm

    One of the most vile and despicable MPs in parliament. I somehow feel that biology failed and rather than the strongest sperm getting the egg, somehow we got the weakest link :(

  5. GulliverUK 29 Jan 2013, 6:35pm

    It’s at 344 in favor, and 135 opposed on C4EM

    Given many of those who haven’t indicated will support it, whilst a few of those who said they will now won’t, because it includes provisions for marriage in “willing” churches, then his figure of about 400 might be valid.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 29 Jan 2013, 6:56pm

      344 is a very significant majority I would think. Even if it were to pass by a margin of 30-40, it should still be considered a sizeable majority. The Lords shouldn’t be able to delay passage if any bill gets a majority, no matter how low or high the majority might be.

  6. bobbleobble 29 Jan 2013, 6:36pm

    Is he saying that it’ll get a majority of 300 – 400 or that 300 – 400 MPs will vote in favour? Your story says both.

    A majority of 400 would be magnificent and it would give the Lords a lot to think about. Resisting the overwhelming will of the Commons would be outrageous.

    1. Paul Brownsey 29 Jan 2013, 7:25pm

      “Is he saying that it’ll get a majority of 300 – 400 or that 300 – 400 MPs will vote in favour? Your story says both.”

      Well said. This is the sort of sloppiness that too often passes for journalism. There is a difference between:

      “There will be a majority for same-sex marriage and 400 MPs will vote for it”


      “There will be a majority of 400 for same-sex marriage.”

      Ponder and learn the difference, Mr Roberts.

  7. To be pedantic – 300-400 MPs voting in favour of a policy is not a “majority of 300-400”. There are 650 MPs in the Commons, so the size of the majority depends on how many vote against and how many abstain. Davies is quoted as saying that he expects the majority to be 300-400 – excellent! – but I really wish journalists would be more scrupulous about accuracy; readers rely on them to contain information accurately and precisely.

    1. Paul Brownsey 30 Jan 2013, 10:47am

      You aren’t being pedantic. You are simply exposing the muddle in the story.

  8. What’s his strategy? To encourage complacency while he and the other homophobes work like hell to get the nays up as much as possible and so defeat the bill? Could be.

    When the homophobes in the Commons start spitting their bile in public next week, let’s be watching BBC Parliament and be ready to make Facebook and Twitter thunder with fury and indignation so those homophobes live to regret their statements!

  9. AS i read it and with the web saying that there are 650 members of the house of commons, that means that about 175 will oppose and 175+ the 300 majority will support.=475

    It could also mean that 300 would support, meaning that 350 would oppose.

    Confusing. Hopefully the number will be like 400 majority – meaning 125 oppose and 525 support

    I cant think of a better present to send to RATZInger then a 4 to 1 majority.

  10. Well. He wasn’t that far off.
    it was 400 in support, and 175 against.

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