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Cambridgeshire: Cafe owner calls for apology over allegations of support for Ugandan anti-gay bill

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  1. barriejohn 28 Jan 2013, 1:28pm

    This man is seriously divorced from reality. “It was incredible to think that a small cafe in St Neots got caught up in issues in Uganda.” Why? He was the one who went all the way out there and supported Ugandans who want to see homosexuals executed. Is he denying that as well now? What was he doing sharing a platform with these people if he finds their views so abhorrent? Did he make his position clear when there? Maybe he wasn’t on that platform at all – or maybe he isn’t telling the truth!

    1. barriejohn 28 Jan 2013, 1:40pm

      PS If he thinks that Barry Duke is going to apologize for his remarks in light of THIS statement, then he doesn’t know much about Barry Duke!

    2. Keith Francis Farrell 28 Jan 2013, 2:00pm

      This is taken from the Uganan news. Paul Schinners is a liar.

      Rev. Paul Schinners from the United Kingdom commended Uganda for the Bill, saying it was a clear stand for God.

      “There is no other nation world over that has such a plan and through this, Uganda is going to be blessed,” Rev. Schinners said.

      “We understand that Uganda had many problems like tribalism, corruption, but many people are simply pointing fingers and judging each other yet all this cannot cause change but it is conviction that would bring change in society,” he added.

  2. Keith Francis Farrell 28 Jan 2013, 1:56pm

    Funny what this idiot says and what the Ugandan news say seem to be two very different things. This idiot is a homophobe and while quoting the bible as a minister tells lies to us.
    Sir, You are an idiot and a homophobe. please feel free to take action against me or better yet challange me to a duel. I would be happy to rid the world of a sinner like you. I am gay and proud
    http://www.monitor.co.ug/News/National/Calls-to-pass-the-anti-gays-Bill-dominate-New-Year-messages-/-/688334/1655670/-/11vv8ob/-/www.qatarairways.com/ug

    1. barriejohn 28 Jan 2013, 3:16pm

      In fairness, that still seems to be the only account of what happened. I’m not saying that I don’t accept that that is precisely what he did say, but, as has been said before, if it is not then why is he not taking issue with those who published such untruths in the first place?

  3. Staircase2 28 Jan 2013, 4:55pm

    From the other articles that Pink News has published on this subject it’s clear that Paul Shinners has been quite consistent in repeating his side of the story. Nor did he seem uncomfortable talking about gay people.

    It would appear that he isn’t in fact a ‘Rev’ as was wrongly quoted by the Ugandan Newspaper in question. It is also possible that they may have got other factual information wrong as well.

    Is it possible that the bloggers were in fact blinded by their Atheism and instead took the word of an Ugandan Newspaper which by all accounts regularly gets the wrong end of the stick…?

    I read with discomfort the comments attached to the other Pink News coverage of this story. It is not unusual for comments to be knee jerk and reactionary but there is a duty of care that all Journalists have when reporting a story to ensure its verifiable truth versus idle speculation.

    I’m not sure that any of the Journalists involved here have done that…

    1. barriejohn 28 Jan 2013, 5:37pm

      The media always refer to Billy Graham as a reverend when he’s not, so I wouldn’t read too much into that. As far as I can see, Mr Shinner has not denied attending the conference, so what on earth was he doing there, and if he was there did he condemn the views that were being expressed?

      http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/01/scott-lively-argument-set-for-next-week-as-persecution-of-gays-escalates-in-uganda/

    2. barriejohn 28 Jan 2013, 5:41pm

      The Ugandan Monitor is being taken seriously here:

      http://oblogdeeoblogda.me/2013/01/01/ugandan-gay-hating-pastors-spit-on-their-constitution-in-mandela-stadium/

      Mr Shinner has not set the record straight to my satisfaction.

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