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Turkey: Bishop’s killer claims he was subject to gay advances and receives reduced sentence

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  1. Same shit, different day.

  2. So he was killed for being gay in other words and it seems even though Turkey is supposed to be secular.

    Yeah right.

    1. Liam the God 24 Jan 2013, 5:54pm

      Not so secular now, if you look at the politics of it. Ataturk would not be happy.

  3. That There Other David 24 Jan 2013, 5:53pm

    Well, that shows how little Turkey has moved forward since Ataturk founded it doesn’t it? Even if the priest did ask for a gay affair, which may or may not be true, what the hell justification is that for murdering him? Atun’s pride was so hurt by the mere thought that another man might fancy him that he had to kill the guy? That’s not mitigating circumstances, that’s no reason, that’s just a vile sh1tbrain acting like a demented toddler.

    Shame on the judge for reducing the sentence, and shame on Turkey for breeding a culture where this sort of macho fear-laden BS is can be an excuse for brutally killing someone.

    1. Well said.

  4. Christopher in Canada 24 Jan 2013, 5:56pm

    All this proves is that Turkey is still in the 1960’s/70’s.

    EEC, take note.

    1. Liam the God 24 Jan 2013, 8:06pm

      I think they’ve gone back to the 1870’s, nevermind the 1970’s!

  5. Altun said: “I regret having committed this crime. I did not kill that person for nothing. I killed him because there was a reason. Why should I have killed him otherwise?”

    Most people kill other people for a reason. Some are jealous, some are angry, some are afraid… That doesn’t mean it its’t murder anymore. It’s not as if this priest was looming over his body guard (we may presume this man was capable of defending himself) with a gun, forcing him to commit fellattio, so it’s hardly self-defence.

    This is a very, very poor show, Turkey.

  6. If Turkey join the EU. I’m moving out of the EU.

  7. With Erdogan as Prime Minister Turkey has become very intolerant.

    In a mall in Istanbul, a large poster of Adolph Hitler is displayed as someone you would like to meat.

    Israel has been demonized, and this “gay panic defense is used when a Christian is a victim.

    The gay panic defense is completely bogus. All you have to do is say no and move away, not murder someone.

    And it is almost always a lie.

  8. Bill Cameron 24 Jan 2013, 8:27pm

    Not that it justifies the killing, or even less the reduced sentence – murder is murder – but it is not entirely beyond the bounds of possibility that the Bishop did proposition his driver, if the sordid history of the Catholic Church is anything to go by.

    I doubt if the driver would have received more than 15 years in the UK for a similar crime and probably a lot less. Turkey is certainly not perfect, but there is a rather unpleasant anti-Turkish and anti-Muslim tone to some of the comments here – just goes to show that commenters who are presumably gay can be just as prejudiced and yes, bigoted, as anyone else.

    1. Maybe we’ll get a reduced sentence then.

  9. Edmund Rodgers 24 Jan 2013, 9:44pm

    If they even contemplate letting Turkey into the EU then I am voting out at the referendum! Savage beast

  10. A license to go around and slaughter anyone you feel like in Turkey then. It doesn’t matter who or what the victim is, just say gay an you’ll get a reduced sentence. Pity the poor victim can’t testify in his own defense though. Oh, forgot. He’s dead. That’s Turkey off the travel map then. And for God sake don’t let this backward divot of a country join the EU.

  11. No matter how you view it the crime is what it is “Murder” It insults the victim and his family when a murderer receives a reduced sentence because he used a “gay panic” defense in essence implies a gay persons life is of lessor value because the victim can’t speak of the attack.

    I don’t know if any one recalls the Australian priest who fought a long hard battle to have “Gay Panic” defense disregarded and legislated against after it was used by assailants who killed a man on church property.

    No matter where i the world, Turkey or else where this is no excuse for murder, a lessor or lenient punishment. Courts should not allow it as a defense!.

  12. And this is a country which desires membership of the EU? Come out of the middle ages, you bunch of homophobes. Had this been a FEMALE murderer claiming similar harassment, would her sentence have been reduced?

  13. Darren Theoret 25 Jan 2013, 12:37pm

    I thought the church was encouraging violence against gay people. How’s that working for you now Pope? You keep pretending your priests aren’t gay but it widely known that about one third of them are. Are you prepared to lose one third of your repressed closeted gay co-conspiritors?

  14. ‘Unjustifiable provocation’ – seriously? This is a disgrace, I feel sorry for any principled people within the Turkish judiciary.

    1. Liam the God 26 Jan 2013, 4:43pm

      “I feel sorry for any principled people within the Turkish judiciary.”. Are there any left? Or have they all been shifted sideways to make room for more Islamist/Fascist Judges?

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