Oh my god, get a point. Anti-choice, homophobic, anti-equality? It’s a wonder he has time to tie his shoes of a morning.
Schools are obligated to teach and represent all religions, why, then, should they have to hide a whole other portion of society from children? Children who may well be very confused as to how their two mums and two dads can be so let down by the education system.
And you know, when you’re losing an argument, you could always quote the dictionary. But remember folks, the word “Bootylicious” is also in that dictionary…so pinch of salt, yeah?
excellent response… I also wondered how MY children would fit in with all this. They’ve known my lesbian household and they’ve known their dad’s straight one. They’ve always chosen to be in mine with its inclusiveness and encouragement to be who they are (both straight). If only the straight side had been shown in school what would that have told them about the one they feel best in? This man is dangerous.
LOL @ “schools teaching some that is not actually true”!!! Like RE lessons perhaps?
Its a Catholic Pressure Group!
What do you expect?
Watching the video he reminds me of a character David Mitchell would play in a sketch, only with a slightly less funny voice.
I notice he also contradicts himself and nobody pulls him up on it. Nobody also argues against his point about societies throughout history blah blah by pointing out that we’re not the first country to do this.
I noticed the contradictions too. It’s all very well This Morning having these debates but the presenter don’t challenge the guests well enough.
The other guest, Kelly Rose Bradford, was not even spoken to that much, so the debate was too one sided.
It reminds me of the BBC and its handling of equal marriage, seldom does it have a balanced show or asks rational questions to challenge the opposing view. Poorly conducted, ill conceived.
Indeed. The whole thing seemed to be contrived so that Holly Willoughby could show how sad she was about his words. However well meaning she may be Holly isn’t an expert in this and isn’t briefed to counter the ridiculous arguments he brings up. Kelly Rose Bradford is, yet she’s not allowed to. Schofield and Willoughby ought to have stepped back.
You’d think an anti-abortion group would be in favour of promoting gay relationships seeing as they *won’t* result in any unwanted pregnancies, wouldn’t you?
No, no, Alex – get with the latest desperate propaganda from the antis :D Apparently abortions will INCREASE if we have equal marriage!:
Never mind that that’s complete crap! It shows how desperate they are to do everything they can to deprive us of rights – rights would impinge on nobody else’s.
But at least we won’t need to get abortions, hey?
No, but by our mere supergay powers we will cause them apparently – see above.
“Teachers will continue to be able to express their own personal beliefs about marriage.”
“Schools have a requirement to ensure they do not teach anything that would be considered inappropriate to a pupil’s age, religious or cultural background and they must ensure pupils are presented with balanced, factual information about the nature and importance of marriage for family life and bringing up children.”
Um, this doesn’t really go together. If you must give factual information how can teachers be allowed to present their opinions on something? Opinions are not fact…
The problem with this site is that you give time to an insignificant wretch like that pussy.
To use some of your own rhetoric, you really must hate yourself, since you insist on coming back here time after time to read and comment.
Yeah lets just sweep the little creep under the carpet.
It’s important these people show themselves up. It’s that what people see and the consequences of it is that more and more people see it as wrong and attitudes change for the better!
Well like or not this insignificant wretch appeared on one of the most popular daytime tv shows in the UK, enabling him
to expound his views millions. The tripe he came out with probably also helped to reduce those on This Morning’s opinion poll who opposed gay marriage being taught in schools to plummet from 80% to 60%. Never the less this left 40% still agreed with him and I think that’s more than newsworthy.
So, heterosexuals aren’t promiscuous? Why are so many of them having sex before marriage. Why are so many of them living together umarried? Why are so many of them committing adultery, sometimes over and over? Why are there so many unwed mothers? They should ask SIr Roger Gale if he construes his serial adultery (3 marriages so far) as non-promiscuous? In fact any hetero adulterer. Tory MPs Bob Blackman, Nadine Dorries? I’m sure there are many others.
Indeed and an anti-abortion person who clearly does see nor understand that the majority of abortions come from one night stands from promiscuous heterosexuals. We are talking in the hundreds of thousands a year for pity sake!
No, no, best we forget that.
They are nothing but hypocrites.
Sorry meant ‘doesn’t see’
Um, the majority of abortions come from women who are already mothers (60%) and in a relationship.
The whole promiscuity = abortions thing is nonsense.
The man is a complete and utter tool who is in denial.
The look on Phillip’s & Holly’s face pretty much says is all.
I like that Kelly Rose Bradford.
He also claims that the gay lifestyle are promiscuous. Maybe so, but then again so are heterosexual folk, it is just that the gay community are more honest about it.
What sort of promotion? BOGOF? Is there a loyalty scheme?
Has this guy seen the programme about Magaluf. He might need to re-define promiscuous for heterosexuals.
As for not natural, where was I born a lab?
Holly Willougby is right in saying this was shocking. What a vile, bigoted little man.
What makes me laugh is the way these people insist they are not homophobic yet clearly they are acting on fears.
He would rather a child be ‘corrected’ (dangerous) than be proud of themselves. It’s vital they are proud to face up to these nasty bigoted people.
I do have to add the most hypocritical part was he is anti-abortion and speaks that the ‘homosexual lifestyle’ is about being ‘promiscuous’ without even a mention of the huge number of abortions that are carried out per year in this country due to unwanted children from ‘one night stands’.
Another point he fails on is the fact that foster/adopted children come from heterosexual people who do not want children or cannot care for children. The point in fostering or adoption is that the adults wanting, want to love and care for children and to provide them a stable enviroment. …
That means in many cases a child going to better parents who really want them.
I’m gobsmacked this vile creature was given airtime but clear those around him And who were watching disgreed with him.
May I suggest to him that in order to try and seem an expert at something you learn about them and witness the fact and not teach on assumptions.
I would take the point too that I don’t want same-sex marriage taught in schools … I want love and marriage taught equally not as something separate. Surely it’s important to teach that people can love each other and marry if they wish without having to separate it with the word heterosexual and homosexual.
Of course that is what we can expect from those religious type… rather than treat equally they want equality separated for their own bigoted pleasure.
Finally… “Some things change and some things stay the same”
Me thinks that’s the classic pick and chose you expect from the religious extremist. They just won’t let go of the fact laws represent them and they are Not above them in Any way.
Most abortions are not carried out due to one night stands. The most common reasons are poverty, age, contraception failure and existing children.
Also, heterosexual / bisexual women should not have to be broodmares for other people who can’t have children.
I’m not sure where it says that straight or bi women are “broodmares”….
but then you have to ask would they really admit that their reasoning was a one night stand, theres not just one reason there are a multiple of reasons for making such a decision.
e.g Age, they had a one night stand BUT they feel like they are too young to have kids – therefore age is more important but its still because of promiscuity.
I’m SO glad she refused to stay ‘neutral’; she looked like she wanted to slap some sense into the man. Brilliant.
What he wants is to retain the current systematic conditioning of youngsters.
He wants to say if you’re a male then you must like a female and vice versa. What he doesn’t understand is that children have minds of their own.
I’m particularly annoyed by this because I’ve seen it happen. I’ve been there when a little boy told his mother that he liked another boy and she told him off saying he should only like girls because he’s a boy. It got me so angry. The poor kid.
He clearly supports mental child abuse, I what else you call someone who tells a child who they are is wrong and do everything they can to change them?
Strange as the most promiscuous people I know are heterosexuals, and some of them married.
I must have got different information to the Catholic Church – funny that.
Clearly we all need to invest in this ‘Homosexual Lifestyle’ magazine he keeps banging on about. They’re clearly so much more knowledgeable about us than us…. NOT!
I know right! This lifestyle sounds bloody fabulous. I want in!
Its good that youu’re covering this story but disappointing that you didn’t mention the awful and potentially slanderous comments he made about the Terrence Higgins Trustbwhich he basically accused of going into schools and promoting promiscuity. He also had ago at them for ‘encouraging children to come out’. Given the woeful lack of same-sex safe-sex education in the state sector and the high rate of HIV transmission amongst gay men compared with the population as a whole, these are very serious allegations in my opinion which need to be countered.
I agree. Though to be fair I think that most around him were gobsmacked at his level of bigotry… However a correct on behalf of THT should have been merited.
Surely *if it were to work* the ‘promotion’ of homosexuality in schools would lead to a reduction in the number of abortions?! :p
This guy is an error in conception…what does he account for his confused mentality? What a born f****** loser….Did he drop out of kindergarten or his mother drop him on the pavement?
Same old tired hatecrap.
I’m annoyed that Willoughby and Schofield weren’t armed with the information required to trounce the non-specific statistics he alludes to which suggest heterosexual marriages are ‘safer’ for kids.
Scientific research has actually been consistent in showing that gay and lesbian parents are as fit and capable as heterosexual parents, and their children are as psychologically healthy and well-adjusted as children reared by heterosexual parents.
You want sources?
1) Marriage of Same-Sex Couples – 2006 Position Statement Canadian Psychological Association
2) Elizabeth Short, Damien W. Riggs, Amaryll Perlesz, Rhonda Brown, Graeme Kane: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) Parented Families – A Literature Review prepared for The Australian Psychological
There are more. Let’s see Ozimic’s sources.
Why was he even given airtime by the sound of it he was sailing very close to the wind as regards Hate Crime
Another confused, sad, self-hater – no doubt religiously inspired. It’s such a pity christians don’t follow the rules as laid down by their founder: “Above all, love one another”. I’m sick and tired of being told by these weirdos that I’m a second-class citizen. If these nobs were saying stuff like this about racial issues, they’d be locked up. So why do WE stand for it? Because their particualr ‘incitement to a hatred’ is done under the protected priviledge of ‘religious belief’? Disgraceful.
True, but it’s only permitted because of society’s attitude to LGBT people and the way homophobia is tolerated in a way other prejudices aren’t. There’s religious ‘justification’ for any number of discriminatory views – eg the bible was used to ‘prove’ interracial marriage was ‘bad’, and that women aren’t equal to men – yet society wouldn’t put up with anyone using the bible in such a way now. However, we seem to be fair game. It disgusts me.
What disgusts me more Iris is that MPs supporting equal marriage remain silent while the bigots get away with this crap, unchallenged. The apathy and complacency is mind-boggling. Their irrational screeds give the impression to the lazy thinkers and those on the fence in our society that equal marriage is bad and unnecessary. It also gives the impression that more MPs are now coming out against equal marriage since we no longer hear of any more supporting it, at least not on PN, let alone the media. This is exactly the climate the opposition hopes will win the argument and at times it looks as though they are since they get more than their far share of coverage.
Agreed, Robert. Again, is it because the crap-spouters have used religion to justify their bigotry and so are considered to be untouchable? Seems like claiming religious belief gives you carte blanche to be as nasty as you want about LGBT people.
Someone in government did say something to support us recently (sorry – can’t remember who) but the Gov needs to say something every time some MP or religious representative spreads misinformation. The Gov needs to be right in there refuting every lie the antis tell a.s.a.p.
Maybe they think that the general public will see through the lies, but so many people don’t know much about equal marriage or LGBT people so can just swallow the lies and propaganda that the anti-equality people spread.
Kudos to Holly Willoughby for openly telling 40% of her viewers that voted on the opinion poll that she found their views shocking. A lot of other presenters have, and continue to, sit on the fence when they disagree with such a large portion of their audience on Gay rights issues. Although the research for this segment was severely lacking. Whilst I like the fact that a straight woman with a child was picked to oppose Ozimic, a lot of his points countered with hard facts which no one at This Morning had bothered to brief Schofield and Willoughby with. Yet again it was left down to dodgy assertions being given by an anti-gay advocate only to be met with indignant opinion on the other side.
You think Daybreak would have learnt their lesson about careful research before doing the show what with the whole peadophile thing that happened a while back.
If this guy didn’t have a monogamous marriage, he wouldn’t be getting any sex at all!!!
The bloody moron clearly knows absolutely nothing about kids. From the youngest age they know who is “fudging” the truth…not telling the whole story. It really is NOT impossible for a well-trained teacher to come up with a form of words to be able to explain issues in an age-appropriate manner to children. There are all sorts of safeguards at place in school these days to ensure that parents endorse what the National Curriculum demands,
Metropolitan elite!! In cahoots with the gays, as usual. At least the guy hasn’t fathered any children yet. And hasn’t met any either, I guess. Most kids take homosexuals in their stride, it’s the parents that are the problem.
There’s a line in the argument that the anti- people are currently running with that marriage equality is only important to those in cities, whereas those in rural areas don’t care about it and therefore the government shouldn’t do it.
The addition of the “elite” tag must mean that somebody has pointed out to them that more than 80% of the UK population lives in urban areas.
Yes, because there aren’t any homosexuals in the country.
Not disputing that at all. Just pointing out yet another idiocy in their reasoning.
If ever there was an argument for abortion it’s him.. what an odious wretch of a man. By the way, just because you don’t fear homosexuals doesn’t mean you’re not a homophobe. The nonsense you’re spouting says something quite different.
Oh dear, the Department for Education spokesperson has put their foot in it there. Teachers have no business teaching their own personal views on marriage. By telling pupils that they believe marriage should only be between a man and a woman they are creating an environment where homophobia will flourish. Sad reading if it’s the case
I’ll watch the video later but in the meantime it strikes me as perverse to value every foetus to highly whilst have so little respect for what some of them turn out to be.
Sorry – for “to” read “so”. I do wish this site had an edit function.
And for “have” read “having”. Maybe I should just abort this contribution.
What do you expect from another of Pope Benny’s organisations? Just another mouthpiece for the RC Church who really are fighting dirty. TIme to out all the gay priests and make them shut up.
Idiots. Some of the most promiscuous people I know are heterosexuals, especially men and male athletes.
Are they going to outlaw marriage for infertile couples? Are they going to take children away from single parent homes or just the homes of gay parents? These people are so illogical and brainwashed. I can’t believe the media even gives them exposure.
My face always goes blank whenever the horror of ‘promotion of gay lifestyles’ is brought up.
My reply is always ‘Yes, and……….do you want to add an argument to that statement?’
I -WISH- people would start demanding: “What studies? You say studies show that children do better with heterosexual parents: cite the studies. Who did them? When? What were the criteria being measured? How many participants were there? What methods were used? Did they conform to non-bias procedures?” Because I’m almost certain that EVERY time they’ll mumble the name of some debunked ‘Christian Charity’ ‘study’.
The proof of the promiscuity of straight people lye in the statistics of hundreds of millions of illegitimate children born all over the world.
I digress though, maybe we shouldn’t go about attempting to undermine others and sit in judgement of them because of our own prejudices. Voices of condemnation like these will disapear if we do not give them the attention that they litterally, do not deserve. Turn away from them and they will go silent, but never let them out of your sights.
I’m not sure I understand why he doesn’t want gay marriage. His organisation (who so kindly shoved one of their crappy leaflets though my door last week) is called ‘Society for the protection of the Unborn Child’
Same sex couples are LEAST likely to get abortions. They have to jump through all sorts of hoops to have children. Unwanted preganancies simply don’t happen to us. It’s impossible.
Equal marriage won’t change our reproductive organs, or the biological impossibility of two men or two women conceiving naturally, so he should leave us and equal marriage alone and concentrate on the straights.
I have read their ‘aims’ section on the website and nowhere does it say anything about what happens after birth, so why are they getting involved?
Please let him know your views at:
That’s why they made up a supposed link with abortions so they could wade into the equal marriage debate with both bigot boots firmly on: – Equal marriage will allegedly increase the number of abortions according to SPUC as reported here on PN last year.
Holly Willoughby was right, it is shocking that Philip “foot-in-mouth” Schofield thinks that a 20% gap in the on-screen opinion poll is not “a massive difference between the two”. It’s a very clear majority and perhaps given that at one point it was 80/20 pro marriage equality, that may have contributed to his comment.
Given that 20 years ago, any discussion on gay rights would probably have resulted in the completely opposite result, I do think we have come a long way. It’s encouraging that the odious opinions of Mr Ozimic are viewed as being blatantly reprehensible,
I think in some respects I am more shocked by the viewer comments from “The Hub”.
The woman that claims not to have nothing against homosexuality, but doesn’t want her very-impressionable daughter taught about same-sex marriage in school and that homosexuality is something “you should figure out about yourself and not something that is taught in school”.
While I agree sexuality is something you do figure out in due course, perhaps if they had some knowledge and some positive reinforcement rather than negative stereotyping then kids struggling to come to terms with sexuality and gender issues might feel less isolated and abnormal, thus allowing them to figure it out in a supportive environment without any prejudice.
And the fact she’d remove her child from school if it was taught…. no, not remotely homophobic!
She’s a classic example of someone subconsciously conditioned against gay people. She perceives us as walking sex lives rather than human beings, but has no idea that such an idea has actually been implanted into her at some point by negative stereotype reinforcement. Hence she doesn’t see herself as being discriminatory against human beings, she just sees us as part of a sexual education she doesn’t want her child to have until she’s older.
It’s quite common to encounter people that think that way in real life.
Quite. It’s the fact that sexuality is not something that you are just allowed to figure out for yourself which causes so many problems for young people who realise that they’re attracted to the sex. Sexuality is an inescapable fact of life that children have to deal with the moment they (or their peers) hit puberty. The act of heterosexuality has to be broached in schools to teach kids about reproduction in the hope that they don’t become another teen preganancy statistic. Yet moreover heterosexuality is actively referred to, at home, in school, in advertising, in tv dramas to the point where it is actually promoted. To then turn around and assume that you can then white wash the feelings that a gay child is feeling out of life is sheer hipocricy.
The society for the protection of the unborn child is an organ of the church of Rome. Hardly surprising that they spout the propaganda of the Church of Rome!
only its not gay people that are having all those unwanted babies and aborting them …
If they are AntiAbortion then they should be very pro lgbt after all… when we have children they are very much wanted…. I think he is very confused…
Perhaps he should be against Heterosexual sex after all he sounds very Anti Sex… perhaps he is A-Sexual and angry about it… :)
This person is so full of shit his eyes are probably brown. Personally I’ve always held that straight people are the QUEERS! There is no one more fucked up than these so called religious idiots.
“‘homosexuals are promiscuous’ and equal marriage will ‘confuse’ children”
Or… anti-abortionists are fevered dogmatic zealots and bigots, who should be prevented from having a say in formation of public policy, perhaps?
Doesn’t teaching kids about the bull shit that is religion confusing them – when they learn about dinosaurs and outer space? But no, yeah, LOVE and COMMITMENT will confuse kids…f*** off.
How novel: a puritanical CHristian prude calling someone else “promiscuous”. Envy is such an ugly trait.
As a Gay/Catholic man In my view Gay men are more “promiscuous than straight men but not by much However the Guy on TV was just being provocative sexist and anti Gay too
There is plenty of evidence for same-sex marriage in other cultures, most of it brutally suppressed by missionaries. So, the assertion that marriage has always been between a man and a woman is untenable.
Besides, he only needs to hop on a plane to any country across the North Sea to see that marriage hasn’t always been as he believes it to be.
..this is totally untrue. A child can learn anything from scratch. It will not be confused by having gay parents…adults are the ones which poison their minds and as a result they become prejudice…if children were taught FAIRLY and sensibly our World would definitely be a better place.