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Study: 47% of gay and bisexual men admit to bareback sex

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  1. Brett Gibson 21 Jan 2013, 11:34pm

    Not really surprising at all. In the defence of those who do, I have been there and if they were like me, you become a completely different when you’re turned on, one who doesn’t care for infection or playing it safe. I have learned (the hard way) of the value of condoms. I think because HIV patients live on to live full lives now that gay guys aren’t really scared anymore of catching anything. We’re close to an HIV cure though I’m sure.

    1. While I agree that in the heat of the moment it can be easy to forget to wear a condom, the result of being careless is, as you say yourself, to learn the hard way… The real question is whether it’s really worth that risk?
      What if the ‘hard lesson’ you talk of is to actually catch HIV?
      Personally I don’t think it’s a practical gamble to take.

      In my best ‘mothers voice’ all I can finish with is: “Dear everyone, please just wear condoms. Please, please, please. There is already quite enough suffering in the Gay community without HIV, so let’s not give ourselves such an unnecessary extra burden.”

      1. Not only that it throws ammunition at the haters and bigots. It is used as a way of presenting LGBT as hedonistic, weak willed clowns who can’t be taken seriously.

        1. Rather rich isn’t it that those same haters are probably doing the same thing, except it seems that in the straight world people don’t seem to notice or care!

    2. Well I am not an out of control animal and I know the benefits of being healthy. If you and your lover really cared for each other the question of condoms would not be an issue

    3. GingerlyColors 22 Jan 2013, 10:15am

      Don’t count your chickens before they hatch, Brett. We have yet to find a cure for any viral disease, let alone HIV. Even if scientists do make that breakthrough we will still find that prevention is better than cure.

  2. HIV is a number of different things depending on which country you have a test. You cab be positive in country A and Negative in country B. One thing is for sure, if you don’t wear a condom you can catch something that could give you a nasty death

    1. What do you mean with “HIV is a number of different things”?

      HIV testing in the developed world is quite reliable.

  3. Never have and never will, at least not unless I get into a seriously committed trustful relationship. One night of messing about just isn’t worth the chance of becoming drug dependent and having my life expectancy significantly shortened…. too busy and enjoying my life too much for something like HIV to happen.

  4. Sucking on plastic simply isn’t a concept that men appreciate. It’s very unromantic. Better methods of HIV prevention are necessary because clearly educating people will not work. The statistics speak for themselves.

  5. yeah, this study basically says “47% of promiscuous men are promiscuous”.

    the article headline is VERY misleading. it’s not “47% of gay men”. It’s “47% of the horndogs who use sex aps to get laid fast and easy”.

    People who use things like Grindr are a particular class of people. It’s wrong to use a “survey” of those people to represent in any way shape or form the larger gay community.

    1. common sense 22 Jan 2013, 4:40am

      While this is true, the survey is focused on sexually active promiscuous gay men – the group most likely to be exposed to STDs and HIV – and Grindr etc are probably the best places to look for them. That 47% of those are not routinely using condoms IS of big concern.

      In the end, monogamous couples and celibate single people are of not much interest in gathering stats on sexual risk taking among promiscuous gay men.

      1. I agree but I thought the same thing reading this headline: that I would be in that 47% although I did that with my partner of now many years. You could say 100% of straight people have unprotected sex, at least if they want to have children at some point. Although I understand that HIV is a serious risk, I’m not 100% comfortable with its constant association with gay people, to the extent we are sometimes told we should wear condoms even in committed relationships, something you would never tell a straight person. Yet straight people can become HIV+ too.

        1. People in relationships can become HIV+ too.

          Sorry to burst your bubble.

        2. Actually, I always use condoms within hetero relationships, until we’ve both been tested. It’s just common sense, surely?

      2. GulliverUK 22 Jan 2013, 9:24am

        What age groups? Is there any difference between those age groups? What’s their socio-economic status. When was the research conducted? Now that people who are gay can now finally get married what will those results look like in 2-3 years time? Is the level of unprotected sex for given age groups comparable or lower or higher than their straight peers? As Mikey says “47% of promiscuous men are promiscuous”, although I wouldn’t put it like that but rather 47% of people using phone or web-based hook-up meeting applications don’t use a condom every time. The results were not even slightly clear if “always, often or sometimes” are lumped together. What is the figure for always, i.e. those who never use condoms. I wouldn’t say hooking up by phone apps or anything else is promiscuous – straights have been hooking up in supermarkets, tv and phone sites, web sites, even Christians have numerous dating web sites. Many straights met their partner in a nightclub or pub.

  6. Kerry Hollowell 22 Jan 2013, 6:15am

    it really is shocking even though the survey targetted users of grindr etc
    I do accept that its easy to forget to use a condom in the heat of the moment, what complete rubbish, if you have enough self respect and the correct sexual education bare back casual sex is a no go.
    It amazes me the number of young guys in the UK (16 to 25) that have extremely lacking concept of what is considered to be safe penetrative sex.
    It’s very simple, if you are fucking use a condom.

    1. Kerry Hollowell 22 Jan 2013, 6:16am

      I meant to say “I do not accept that it is easy to forget to use a condom”

  7. “respondents have unprotected sex primarily because condoms don’t feel good (almost 85%); they act impulsively (74%); or they are under the influence of drugs and alcohol”

    Where’s the option for being in a monogamous relationship?
    I Bareback and I have no risks
    Without that option then the study just attempts to paint a lot of us as risk taking STD magnets

    1. > I Bareback and I have no risks

      Your risk perception is off. Many man are infected by their primary partner.

      1. Your sex education must have been terrible. Two people with no STIs or STDs cannot catch one from each other.
        I am in a monogamous relationship, and you sir are a moron

        1. Your missing the point Nauplii is trying to make.

          A lot of people in ‘monogamous’ relationships get infected from their partner because the partner is fooling around in their back without them knowing. Hopefully you truly have a working relationship where there is no cheating, but the real world is quite different.

          1. Not clear then how humans are supposed to reproduce since that requires unprotected sex.

            I also can’t see much chance of a relationship working if a couple who are committed don’t trust each other.

  8. I have been married to my husband for 6 years now, and haven’t used a condom with him for longer than that.

    I suppose if he cheated on me it could be a risk. But I trust him not to, or if he does, not to cheat by barebacking.

    You can’t live your whole life without trust.

    I trust him to go out and earn a living so me and the kids can eat, so I also trust him not to cheat.

    1. Good for you! And glad to see your comment wasn’t trolled like mine always are (see above)!

      I hope you and your partner have many happy years together!

  9. The worst thing is those people out there using the BBBH tag who proudly flaunt the fact they only bareback. Like it’s some kind of cool, elite club.

    It’s not. Its dicing with death and these people need to wake up. they’re not only putting themselves at risk but every person they sleep with, some of whom may be barebacking just that once because of ‘spur of the moment’ or alcohol or other things previously mentioned.

    1. In the 90’s gay people seemed to be responsible. the scene leaned towards the left and we were a community of all sorts. Now we have the pink £ zero responsibility to each other and no community everyman for himself and this coincides with the shift to the right. People dying in night clubs gay tories shallow materialism and infecting each other as though only the nerds use rubbers. Get a tattoo get buff, grow a beard and hate anyone who does not fit in. We’ve come a long way!

      1. Hey I have a beard and am covered in tatttoos. Does this mean I have to cancel my gym membership? :(

        1. No but you do need to renew your identity!

          1. I’ve been exactly the same since back when I dated girls. You’re being a bit judgmental don’t you think?

          2. You must be a kid. come back when your balls have dropped

          3. No, I’m not a kid, though you’re obviously a prick. Come back when you’ve learnt some manners.

          4. And you need to get over your own hypocrisy apparently. If you want to maintain that “idyllic” 90’s outlook you need to accept people for who they are even if that means they do happen to fit the bill of stereotypes you dislike. For now you’re just as bad as the people you’re criticising.

    1. Spanner1960 22 Jan 2013, 10:56am

      Ah the rich diversity of Tony Blair’s Multiculturalism.

      1. Don’t be a scumbag. Multiculturalism is great. There is a Brazilian cafe in Queensway where everyone speaks Portuguese and the food is delicious. You see the thorns not the rose mate.

        1. Spanner1960 23 Jan 2013, 2:11pm

          Try living in Waltham Forest like I did for 10 years then.
          It is you wearing the rose-tinted glasses mate, not I.

    2. Jock S. Trap 22 Jan 2013, 12:03pm

      Disturbing but not news for many who live or lived in East London.

      Totally shameful that people are allowed to get away with this behaviour.

      As said in the comments, unlikely to see this on the BBC news!

  10. There was a simple soloution. fetishise condoms make condoms smart and sexy. I remember the guy from the fine young Canibals saying that he found the idea of putting on a condom arousing this was in the early 90’s and it stuck with me.

    Porn companies make the porn we want to buy and to suggest bareback porn does not influence behavious is idiotic.

    I despair that we are showing ourselves to be the irresponsible horndogs our detractors claim we all are

    1. TeenageWhore 22 Jan 2013, 1:19pm

      please stop posting james! you’re making gay poeple look stupid. our detractors don’t need anymore ammunition. i despair.

      1. good hah!

  11. Spanner1960 22 Jan 2013, 10:49am

    “We’re close to an HIV cure though I’m sure.”

    It is precisely that false sense of security that causes these problems.
    How do you know this? It is pure supposition. If the people around you were dying in their droves like they were back in the 80’s, I am sure even you would care about playing it safe.

    Some people just don’t get the message until it’s too fcking late.

    1. Well said Spanner!

      Take some responsibility guys and quit expecting the miracle cures to your idiocy

  12. I could (almost) understand the drunken impulsiveness when hooking up in a bar, but I don’t see it when hooking up from your computer or phone.
    Besides, if you can remember to always have Pepsi in the fridge, a pizza in the freezer, aspirin for hangovers, and soap in the shower, you can certainly keep life saving condoms by the bed.
    But, I suppose there are just as many idiots piloting their boats with their requisite case of beer onboard, but no life preservers either.
    You’d think that natural selection would have thinned these idiots from the herd a few millennia ago. “I dunno, Centurian. He left the Bacchus Boy’s Ale House around midnight, crossed the street to the togaless beach, and said he could swim to Egypt. That’s the last I saw of him, Sir.”

  13. Why is it that HIV studies only gets broadcast about GAY and BISEXUALS ???
    Take the headline again “Study: 47% of gay and bisexual men admit to bareback sex” what about the “STRAIGHTs” are they not sucking, fucking pussy and arse???

    It is the Media/Newspapers/websites “We got news for you!” who gives us(gays/bisexuals) a bad name and don’t have anything else to do!

    They never start “Here at PINK NEWS I(the writer) have just shagged one bareback and it was in the heat of the moment…” So why pointing fingers ???

    Just fed up with this whole bollocks, study this, study that… We all know we do it !! SO the risk is for your own sake, simples!
    I don’t mind they do a study, but the results should not only be directed to the “GAY/BISEXUAL” community!

    1. Spanner1960 23 Jan 2013, 2:19pm

      Er.. Because Gay and Bisexual people only make up less than 6% of the population, yet account for 40% of the HIV statistics.

      Gay men remain most at risk of contracting HIV in the UK with one in 20 testing positive, compared with one in 900 of the population as a whole.

  14. STUDY: 47% OF GAY AND BISEXUAL MEN ADMIT TO BAREBACK SEX
    correction :
    STUDY: 47% OF GAY AND BISEXUAL MEN ADMIT TO GROSS INDECENCY

    It’s a dangerous , unhealthy, and unnatural parody of ‘sex’ , but I suppose this will be how the homosexual lobby want ‘equal-marriages’ ‘consummated’ ? Has anyone mentioned that about 35 in every 100,000 homosexual men develop anal cancer, compared to less than one in every 100,000 heterosexual men ? (according to the BMA), but I’m sure the figures are higher , not to mention prolapses, Chlamydia trachomatis
    Cryptosporidium
    Giardia lamblia
    Herpes simplex virus
    Human immunodeficiency virus
    Human papilloma virus
    Isospora belli
    Microsporidia
    Gonorrhea
    Viral hepatitis types B & C
    Syphilis etc

    Yeah Cameron so-called ‘equal marriage’ will do the health of the country so much good ! Sadly those who speak out at this madness are branded ‘homophobic’ As far as condoms goes has anyone seen a box saying ‘protects 100% against STDs and prolapsed rectum’ ?

    1. Li Thotomist 23 Jan 2013, 10:40am

      Gotta say, Ray, you are the first talking prolapsed rectum I have ever encountered. Dunno if you know this but intercourse between heterosexuals results in all the things you;ve mentioned, plus unwanted pregnancies, unwanted children, child abuse, wife beating, the state having to pay out trillions in child support to women whose partners are not mature enough to pay for the kids they breed as status symbols of their imagined masculinity or as a result of being too stupid and self indulgent to use protection. And don;t teenage girls have to get innoculated against HPV because it;s so common amongst heterosexuals ? What about all the women who develop cancers and other infections due to hetero sex, an almost infinitely higher number per 1000 than the lesbian population ? So does that prove that for women, hetero sex is a dangerous, unhealthy and unnatural parody of the sex they should be having, which is obviously lesbianism ? or does it just prove you are a bigot and a fool, Ray ?

    2. What about women? You act like equal marriage is only available for men and you can only criticise them over the kinds of sex they’re having. You’re whole argument comes down to “I don’t like gay sex between men. It’s icky. Therefore gays shouldn’t be allowed to marry” But you fail to say anything about gay women despite the fact that they also want to get married too.

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