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Anti-gay Christian group: It is ‘dangerous’ to say the bible is inclusive of gay people

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  1. Squabbling over the assumed wishes of their imaginary friend who, conveniently, hates the same people that they do.

    What a pathetic joke they are.

    1. If god existed s/he would be seriously schizophrenic…

  2. I don’t know how much more “dangerous” reinterpretation of their nasty little book of badly written fairy tales could be to gay people than it’s already been over the past 2000 years.

  3. What a shame the bigots at the Evangelical Alliance had to butt-in when we were enjoying a little bit of good news :( Back to normal I guess…

  4. What I hear him saying is that the only way they will accept homosexuals is if homosexuals remain celibate.

    The Roman Catholic Church believes that priests should be celibate. Funny how they rejected that little bit along the way.

    1. The ONLY reason catholic priests must remain celibate is to prevent any offspring they might produce inheriting estates. Priests USED to marry but the Vatican realised valuable wealth was heamorraghing out of its grasp to the widows of priests. So, the rules were changed. Remain celibate – and there’s no chance of priest offspring claiming the wealth it wanted for itself.

      1. It has always amazed me how the church has insisted that those who join MUST turn over all worldly goods to them, on top of doing their best to grab any and all other funds they can milk from people on their deathbeds, getting married, whatever other “services” they can milk. All while preaching about poverty and the rest of that BS. I’ve had reason to go to a couple of places that make or sell items for church use…Even the simple pieces cost an arm at the least, vestments can require a leg, too! So much for “living simply and humbly”!

  5. Steve Clifford, the general director of the Evangelical Alliance, is a well-known anti-gay bigot within the evangelical movement. One of his friends is even in a civil partnership and Clifford’s rejection of him has led to the guy leaving the church. Jesus said that people like Clifford should have a millstone tied around their necks and drowned!

  6. There’s no value trying to change established religion, in any of it’s variations, as it then becomes something else. Instead, we should either leave it all behind, or create a new creed. Personally, I’d like to see more uplifting articles and positive reinforcement of the human condition we all share.

    1. Thankfully, there are people like Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Daniel Dennet and many many more, serious thinkers who are easily accessible now.

  7. How small is the Baptist denomination in the United Kingdom? Down here in New Zealand, it’s been shrinking away for ages.

    1. It’s quite large, and as in the US, often dominated by the afro-caribbean population.

  8. Guglielmo Marinaro 15 Jan 2013, 8:35pm

    In one respect he’s right: the Bible isn’t inclusive of gay people and can’t be, because the biblical writers knew nothing whatever about gay people.

  9. Bill Cameron 15 Jan 2013, 8:54pm

    Ferrets. Sacks. Sick jokes, these folks!

  10. Dangermouse 15 Jan 2013, 9:30pm

    Well f u c k them all !

  11. Dangermouse 15 Jan 2013, 9:33pm

    silly people!

  12. Helge Vladimir Tiller 15 Jan 2013, 9:37pm

    S. C.- You just gave me a chance to throw up. Last time was when I saw a picture of a smiling Ahmadinejad ( Iran ) saying that gays are sick and unwanted people.You should visit him and honour your brother-


  14. “Anti-gay Christian group: It is ‘dangerous’ to say the bible is inclusive of gay people”

    Nonsense: like most everything else it’s only dangerous if you’re not wearing a hi-vis. So the LGBT lesson as always is to be very visible, out and proud of who you are!:)

  15. Despite Mr Clifford’s view, the Bible already includes the story of one gay man, Jonathan. This is one of the Bible’s positive stories of same-sex emotional or romantic attraction and deep friendship. For example Jesus and the disciple he loved, David and Jonathan, and Ruth and Naomi. As far as we know, these loving relationships were not sexual and there was no sexual attraction except possibly between Jonathan and David.

  16. Too late the Bible already says God created equally gay men and straight to be born on earth and to love one another.

  17. His article contains links to a book produced by his orgnaisation which contains the usual lies… human sexuality isn’t fixed; ‘god’ changes gay people to straight; the gay population is less than 1pc (as if it matters)

    …and of course the crass ‘love the sinner’ narrative) Why lie if you think you’re right?

  18. johnny33308 16 Jan 2013, 7:04am

    It has never been, nor shall it ever be their place to JUDGE anyone….their bible tells them to, “judge not lest ye be judged by the same measure” but they pay no heed to this exhortation, from God himself, because it does not fit well into their Bigotry and Hatred of LGBTIQ people….they display NOTHING of Jesus’ teachings or ideals, yet call themselves ‘Christians’ anyway. They do not follow Jesus, and apparently never have….likely not to do so in future either….sad for them….I cannot stand them and wish they were all “gone” forever….

  19. Dave North 16 Jan 2013, 9:47am

    If, as the religious goons state, “Man is made in the image of God”, ergo God has a c0ck.

    Then why oh why are they so hung up on c0cks.

    Surely it is Gods design,

  20. I hope they hand-wring themselves out of existence. The sooner the better. Vile homophobic bigots. WHO CARES what they think?

  21. Yeah, that’s it. First century Christians believed just what modern Evangelicals believe.
    Evangelical = Historically Dyslexic.

  22. Lucky for us, there’s something for everybody in the bible, especially if you’re looking for a justification to hate somebody whose life you don’t agree with.

    1. Darren Theoret 16 Jan 2013, 12:33pm

      And don’t forget, no more sports, driving cars, going to restaurants or shopping on Friday evenings or Saturdays

  23. douglas in canada 16 Jan 2013, 3:02pm

    You wanna get into heaven? Jesus said that it’s easy – “Sell all you have and give it to the poor”.

    Hmmm… makes me think that heaven is going to be a lot quieter than anticipated (will ANYone be there?), and most christians WON’T be there. LOL

  24. Jock S. Trap 16 Jan 2013, 4:07pm

    And yet we don’t kill naughty children as per the bible and we don’t stone adulterers.

    Fact the bible was written to reflect the time it was written Not for the 21st Century clearly!

  25. Tiggy Sagar 22 Feb 2013, 9:40pm

    Please don’t think all Christians are against same sex relationships. Probably more than half aren’t. Even among Evangelicals there are many who aren’t. However, it’s actually quite hard to engage in debate with people who hold anti-gay views as this seems to have little effect. People change their minds far more after hearing about the lives of LGBT people and seeing the relationships of same-sex couples. There are Christian groups such as Changing Attitudes, Accepting Evangelicals and my own group, Christians for Equal Marriage UK who seek to be a voice for Christians who feel strongly about the acceptance, inclusion and rightsof gay people.

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