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Mayor apologises for calling UKIP ‘racists and homophobes’

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  1. … but they are?

    1. Aye I thought they were too

    2. attanasio66 14 Jan 2013, 5:00pm

      Exactly! There is no need to apologise, Mr Lawson…

  2. So when you call out a bunch of racist homophobes on their racism and homophobia and they get offended by that, you’re expected to apologise? If someone steals something, they have no grounds to be “offended” if someone calls them a thief. How do you identify someone as a thief? They take things that don’t belong to them without permission – i.e. they steal. If someone is a racist and homophobe.they have similarly no justification for being “offended” at someone calling them such. How do you know if someone is a racist and homophobe? They discriminate negatively on the basis of race and sexual orientation. For UKIP to complain that it’s unjust to label them according to their manifesto’s policies is bizarre.

    1. Mark Jenkinson 14 Jan 2013, 10:18pm

      The ‘offence’ isn’t the problem. I have no legal right not to feel offended and Mr Lawson has the right to offend.

      I am neither racist, fascist or homophobic. Mr Lawson had no evidence to back up his claims that I was any of those things and no justification for blackening my name. The tweets therefore were libellous.

  3. Jock S. Trap 14 Jan 2013, 2:54pm

    Don’t see the need to apologise on the truth… guess truth really does hurt!

  4. A party that has policies that state that equal entitlements should not be extended to LGBT people. A party that believes and promotes the notion that this country is only for British people and that foreigners should not come here. Issuing an apology will not change what they are but it’s interesting how sensitive they get at being labeled in any way as racist or homophobic.

  5. Bill Cameron 14 Jan 2013, 3:10pm

    Why has he apologised? It was (and is) fair comment. I had a UKIP member on Twitter a couple of days ago saying he didn’t like me making similar comments about that Party to him. My response was that he would just have to get used to it. Same as a recent blog entry I wrote about Cardinal Murphy O’Connor – bigots dislike it intensely when confronted with the truth.

  6. Perhaps they’d like to read here and reconsider their apology

  7. Dex (@MrDexB) 14 Jan 2013, 3:35pm

    He’s probably only apologizing because he didn’t realise BNP is more homophobic than the UKIP. All the UKIP is against is gay marriage. Not the BNP.

    1. Dex (@MrDexB) 14 Jan 2013, 6:11pm

      Then I find the second top story has a UKIP member saying homosexuality is like bestiality. Funny what happens in 3 hours.

  8. Why can’t UKIP own up to their bigotry?
    They are promoting the Coalition For Marriage on their website, a group that seeks to deny loving couples the right to marry simply because they’re in a same-sex relationship. That is homophobic. UKIP claim that government should have a minimal role in people’s lives, however they still want to tell us how to live our sex lives and to control who we can and cannot marry. Libertarian my arśe, it’s an ultra-conservative party with far right elements, although with a more acceptable public face than the BNP.

  9. postopgirl 14 Jan 2013, 3:53pm

    Well if their youth person who recently supported gay rights, standing as a Parliamentary candidate who after which was forced to resign over it, think for one moment, had he kept it quet, he’d still be their candidate, so they must be by defination homophobic, because he supported gay rights.

  10. Cllr John Worrow (Ind) 14 Jan 2013, 4:26pm

    Why would he apologise when the party is acting in a homophobic way?

  11. Cardinal Fang 14 Jan 2013, 4:28pm

    I wonder if UKIP was formed so that the rightwing of the Tories would look less nasty by comparison. Wayang, shadow puppetry.

  12. So when high-up UKIP members compare homosexuality to paedophilia & bestiality, they’re NOT being homophobic??? Time to retract your apology, Mr. mayor. You were right all along.

  13. Cardinal Fang 14 Jan 2013, 4:53pm

    U kip if you want to, but I suggest you don’t. This Party could easily turn into a neo-nazi Party, given what we are told about their supporters. A nationalistic party, built on negatives – focussing on all the things they don’t like (usually minority groups, and in this case, anything European) – has never been good news on our continent. Or any other come to that.

    I bet they don’t support Scottish self-determination. Otherwise they would call themselves the English Independence Party. If not, then they are also hypocrites.

  14. cardinal Fang 14 Jan 2013, 5:03pm

    p.s. – Their policy to Wales and Scotland is even more hypocritical than I thought – they want to reverse devolution and replace the Welsh and Scottish assemblies with committees of Westminster MPs.

    So they want more “Independence” from Europe for the UK, but less independence from England for Scotland and Wales. Sounds fishy to me.

    1. That There Other David 14 Jan 2013, 5:19pm

      Contradiction in the UKIP manifesto.

      Well, colour me suprised!! ;-)

    2. UKIP don’t really believe in sovereignty, only points they can score. They have absolutely no representation in Westminster yet make it their cornerstone. At least the Scots and Welsh Nationalists have MP’s in Westminster unlike UKIP!
      Nigel Farange seems to formulate his policies based on chats he has ‘in the pub’ in Kent. I’ll leave that to your own judgement.

  15. What a pity he apologized rather than quoting some of the many UKIP members who make racist and homophobic remarks. Plenty of source material around in just he last week. He would be spoiled for choice. Mark Jenkinson would have found it pretty difficult to defend his party then.

    1. Mark Jenkinson 14 Jan 2013, 10:15pm

      Mark Jenkinson wouldn’t find it difficult to defend his party then at all, 2 or 3 comments out of 21,000 members does not a homophobic party make. The other 3 main parties have elected MPs that have came out against SSM and all have many undesirables that remain unchecked.

      Using your logic, association with Harman, Dromey and Tatchell – who have all spoke in favour of lowering the age of consent, making possession of indecent images of children not a crime and allowing consensual sex between children and adults – would make the Labour Party supporters of paedophilia. It’s simply not true.

      Wanting to limit immigration using a points system or being “against the governments proposals” (key term) for SSM does not make the party racist or homophobic. From history we have no guarantees that a church will not be forced to perform a SSM against their will at some point. If 75% of our laws weren’t made by the EC and we could have dependable legal locks there’d be no problem.

  16. Be very careful Mr Jenkinson! You accused Mr Lawson of liabulous comments via twitter yet here you are on a public forum making accusations against Harriet Harman, Peter Tatchell and Jack Dromey. Are you 100% sure your comments are COMPLETELY accurate? If not, you may wish to make a swift retraction and issue an apology! I wouldn’t like to take on Peter Tatchell in a liable case – are you prepared for such a fight??? If so, good luck you’ll need it.

  17. Dan Channing 17 Jan 2013, 8:27am

    I just love the way pink news bang on about how that immature mayor went around making misinformed and offensive comments about UKIP and then goes and does the same thing at the end of the artical! I’m a UKIP member and I’m gay. UKIP is not homophobic we were one of the first British political parties to support civil partnerships. We oppose gay marriage for no other reason then that there is no way to protect religiouse organisations from being forced by the EU to practice gay marriages against their will. That would be putting gay rights above religiouse rights.and I’m not quoting party policy but Maybe if you stopped spending so much hate about us and helped us get out from under the iron fist of Brussels gay marriage in civil services is something we could support

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