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US: Brooklyn Dad starts new Boy Scout troop which allows gay members and girls

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  1. A very clever and welcoming move. Hats off dear man. Good luck. Lucky kids.

  2. Good on him and I wish him luck.

    Let’s hope that other parents follow suit!

  3. What a guy. Now what is needed is some of those corporations who pulled out of funding the BSA to give some financial help to this new organization.

    1. Great idea!

  4. I hope it is a massive success.

  5. Although it sounds great I worry the way society is going regarding straight and gay people . We had gay clubs , gay churches soon gay scouts groups I mean surely the way to go is not segregation but togetherness ! Wot next gay only schools , gay hotels ?

    1. PantoHorse 11 Jan 2013, 2:10pm

      He’s not starting a gay scout group, he’s starting an inclusive, secular one.

    2. This is the exact opposite of that Carlos, he accepts boys and girls, all children without prejudice. Its a wonderful thing.

  6. Great a scout group for everyone, way to go.

  7. Miguel Sanchez 11 Jan 2013, 2:56pm

    I really wish him the best of luck with his troop. But there is one thing I strongly disagree with. Boy Scouts are for BOYS. Girls have the Girl Scouts. The Explorers are co-ed and have been for some time.
    The Girl Scouts do not allow boys in their troops so the same should be the said for the Boy Scouts

    1. nixiotemba 11 Jan 2013, 3:56pm

      of course, and also trans scouts please, whats wrong with incusion?

      1. The Girl Scouts have in the past accepted a trans-girl, think I read about it here :)

    2. Staircase2 11 Jan 2013, 4:19pm

      Not true, Miguel

      That may be what you’ve been told is ‘scouting’ but in the UK (where Scouting originated) we’ve had girls in scouts and openly gay leaders for ages.

      Just because you’ve been told something is true doesn’t actually MAKE it true…

    3. “Boys Scouts are for BOYS” IN AMERICA, Carlos.
      If you hadn’t gotten the clue by now, the Boy Scouts of America (national council policies) are out of step (behind) most of the rest of the world’s scouting organizations.
      The Knights of Columbus used to dominate BSA National, but now the LDS (Mormons) have pretty much claimed ownership – and it’s going to take another “revelation” by the head of their church and a declaration that “the gays” are deserving of equal treatment before we see much movement there. (just as in the 1970s, when it was “revealed” that black people could serve as ministers in the LDS).

      1. ^erratum “Miguel”

  8. Delighted to learn of the BPSA. Another organization, “Scouting for All,” has been around for more than a decade now. It was started by a straight Eagle Scout.
    Also greatly encouraged by the news that more local councils are standing up to the out-of-touch-with-the-rest-of-the-world national BSA council.

    1. BPSA scouts are encouraged to wear the “Scouting for All” rainbow knot! I have one on my Rover scout uniform, in fact.

      Yours in Traditional Scouting,
      BPSA HQ

  9. Jon "maddog" Hall 11 Jan 2013, 5:32pm

    I like this.

    I also hope that he embraces some of the more “outdoors” parts of scouting that were de-emphasised over the years. Camping, hiking, cooking over a fire….things that “city kids” hardly ever got a chance to do, and what they found fascinating.

    It is harder for inner-city scouts to have these experiences, but that is one of the reasons scouting was started.

    1. Jon,

      Indeed he will! 5th Brooklyn is a chartered group of the Baden-Powell Service Association. The BPSA is a member of the World Federation of Independent Scouts (WFIS) and is not affiliated with either the Boy Scouts of America or Girl Scouts USA. We offer a Traditional (“back to basics”) Scouting program for youth and adults, girls and boys, men and women with open and progressive membership policies that disallow any and all discrimination. Our program keeps to the aims, methods and teachings of Scouting’s founder, Robert Baden-Powell, and offers a program of progressive training in Scoutcraft/outdoor skills and teaches service over self to ALL boys and girls, men and women. Our aim is to promote good citizenship, discipline, self-reliance, loyalty, and useful skills. For more information, please visit our website at

      Thanks for your interest and support!

  10. Ron Sparks 12 Jan 2013, 4:43pm

    How does on go about making a contribution to theFifth Brooklyn Scouts or the Baden-Powell Service Association (BPSA)?

    1. Hi Ron,

      I’m a member of BPSA HQ, and we do take donations. Please visit our website at for details. And to anyone else out there who would like to start an all-inclusive BPSA scouting group in your community, you should visit our site and add your name and location to our ScoutFinder app. Lots of program resources (including dozens of downloadable PDFs) are also available on the website. Thanks for your interest and support for coed, open & inclusive, Traditional Scouting in the US!

  11. An inspiration. Thank goodness for people with imagination!

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