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Alice Arnold: I want to get married to my civil partner Clare Balding

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  1. Robert in S. Kensington 9 Jan 2013, 12:43pm

    I’m not sure what she means when she says it wouldn’t change anything fundamental between her and her partner. I think it would in terms of recognition by society and not being deemed separate but arguably “equal” in the eyes of the law, not just in the UK but in the ever growing number of countries where equal marriage is legal. CPs are and never will be reocgnised in quite the same way since there is no universal standard for them outside of the UK. They really translate into even more inequality once you leave the country.

    1. PantoHorse 9 Jan 2013, 1:18pm

      I think you have understood Robert. All those reasons you list are, as I have read it, not to do with her relationship with her partner, they’re more about their relationship with society. How she and Ms Balding feel about one another won’t change as a result of an ‘upgrade’, but their partnership will be seen – has to be taken, really – more seriously by everyone else.

      When I CP’d my partner last year it really felt as though a number of my family, particularly my father, had turned a corner and saw my relationship, perhaps for the first time, as something serious and committed – I’d undergone a rite of passage in publicly declaring my love and commitment to another person. We plan to upgrade too – not for use, so much, as to show that our union means as much as anyone else’s.

      1. So it took other people to make you love acceptable to your parents? They must really hate you

        1. Don’t be daft James!, you’re reading something into what I said that isn’t actually there.

          They have never hated me. It took them a long time to understand what I’m about, and what being a gay person is about, and they came to my CP with a fair bit of trepidation. I think they thought it would be all hot pants and salacity. It wasn’t of course, it was lovely – so much fun – and one of the best days of my life. Both of my parents got up to say a few words about how happy they were, what a great day it was and how much they love both myself and my partner – they’ve come such a long way since I came out to them 16 years ago and I’m really proud of them.

          James!, take your hateful put-downs elsewhere. I won’t allow your projections to sully something you have absolutely no knowledge of.

    2. Peter & Michael 9 Jan 2013, 5:16pm

      Now in our 35th year of our relationship, including 7 years CP, we too long for the day that we can have marriage, we wrote to our Conservative MP, his reply was that only a man and a woman could be married. So, it seems he will not be supporting us !

    3. She’s just being honest – unlike most “marriage equality” activiists

  2. Good for them may they have a hapy life as well when it comes

  3. That There Other David 9 Jan 2013, 3:13pm

    I never linked her and Clare before now, although the Sandi Toksvig link I knew about.

    Start picking out a venue Alice, this is coming whatever those sad blinkered people opposed might think.

    1. David J M Coleman 9 Jan 2013, 3:30pm

      Do “leave the church (or other faith group) in”, please: there are plenty of us who love to celebrate the weddings of our LGBT friends the best way we know how; with spiritual backing. Moreover, there are folks in all the churches who are on your side. Please don’t stereotype people of faith.

      1. Only a tiny minority of ‘Christians’ would support celebrate gay weddings – so it’s a valid stereotype.

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