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Conservative MEP: Same-sex marriage is a radical change in social policy

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  1. Ian Bower 8 Jan 2013, 5:17pm

    Huge yawn. Just another Tory wanting to deny equal citizenship.

  2. If time is so valuable, then just demand that they pass it and move on. Why must WE be expected to be the ones who yield? (rhetorical question).

    Nasty party.

  3. No-one’s saying it’s broke, Mr Chichester, they’re saying that there’s no need for a separate form of civil union for same sex couples, and that there’s no reason why LGBT people should be excluded from the legal contract of marriage.

    “They are not the same, for marriage is about a man and a woman joined in matrimony for the procreation of children.”

    Rubbish. It’s only ‘matrimony’ in the churches who will NOT have to perform SSM if they choose not to. Civil marriage is a legal contract which has no requirement or encouragement to procreate.

    What he really means, it seems, is that he wants us to be second class citizens. (‘Look – white people sit where they like on the bus and black people have to sit at the back. That’s fine – if it’s not broke why fix it?’)

    And what of the “traditional marriage” he talks of? Would that be polygamy? Incest? Marrying one’s rapist? Child brides? All in the bible.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 8 Jan 2013, 6:01pm

      He’d better support a ban on infertile hetero couples then or those beyond child bearing years. It hasn’t occurred to him that religion didn’t invent civil marriage, the state did to accommodate fellow Tory bigots such as MPs Bob Blackman, Nadine Dorries and Sir Roger Gale, to name but a few. I do wish someone in government would remind them. It’s getting very tiresome hearing the same old nonsense over and over.

      I had a very nasty exchange with him in an email last year. The man is unhinged like that other Tory tosser up north, Craig Whittaker

  4. Take every keyword, find a synonym for them, and prefix them all with “civil-”

    We will see whether the qoute means anything at the end.

  5. Robert in S. Kensington 8 Jan 2013, 5:56pm

    So, by his delusional reasoning, he shouldn’t oppose civil partnerships for heterosexuals, all things being equal in his pea for a brain. I bet you all of those Tory bigots would vote not to that too. I wonder why they’re not being asked about that, just to force them to eat their own words? I would be gloating watching them get into a dither over it and coming up with the lamest of excuses.

    Why do these right wingers keep on saying there was nothing in the manifesto when there was? Wasn’t the contract for equalities part of it?

  6. PantoHorse 8 Jan 2013, 5:59pm

    If it ain’t broke, then break it and rebuild it better. Can’t remember whi said that.

  7. It amazes me how anti-government this site is. Every day brings some ‘revelation’about anti-equal marriage Tory MPs, when they could equally find sufficient pro-equal marriage Tory MPs and anti-equal marriage Labour and Lib Dem MPs. Let’s have a bit of non-partisan neutrality please.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 8 Jan 2013, 6:03pm

      Totally agree with that. Is it perhaps of apathy among our supporters in Parliament and the Lords. It seems that the naysayers, apparently the loudest, are getting far more coverage than they deserve. I’m still waiting for Ben Summerskill to get off his duff and say something to counter these nasty bigots and their hateful rhetoric.

      1. Dave North 8 Jan 2013, 9:08pm

        Interview with Ben Summerskill: ‘Homophobia is part of the human condition’

        http://www.peoplemanagement.co.uk/pm/articles/2013/01/interview-with-ben-summerskill.htm

        You cannot read it unless you cough up some cash…

        Get this dick out of our face.

    2. Have you ever thought that this just may be the reality? Do you know something we don’t?

      Just list all these anti gay labour MP’s for us and the pro gay tory ones please so we know the truth.

      And don’t forget those peers.

    3. Jock S. Trap 9 Jan 2013, 12:02pm

      Totally agree Mike.

      I know negative reporting is supposed to sell but considering the majority support the Marriage Equality a balance reporting, esp here would be good.

  8. No one is trying to “fix it” just trying to extend the right to tax paying adult members of society to join it?

    I’m sure that as a freedom loving tory he should welcome that. Unless of course the only freedom he values is the freedom to hire, fire and exploit?

  9. He doesn’t put forward any reasoned argument. It’s just a lazy “why bother” attitude. What is actually using up the government’s valuable time is having to constantly repeat themselves to people who have forgotten/are ignoring manifesto pledges and religious safeguards.

  10. “It ain’t broke so why spend valuable parliamentary time trying to fix it?”

    Is it half of all marriages that end in divorce? What is his definition of “ain’t broke”?

    1. Probably that it fulfils his criterion of treating LGBT people as second class. I love the way he says it works fine for both gay and straight people. Yeah, of course, we’re SO happy to be discriminated against for no reason.

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 8 Jan 2013, 8:38pm

        I don’t think he’d be happy to be told he can only have a CP. Amazing how they think they are equal but would oppose heteros having them and we all know why, don’t we?

      2. Robert in S. Kensington 8 Jan 2013, 9:27pm

        Bigots like him don’t think it’s discrimination since they’ve never had to spend one day in our shoes. He should be asked, in fact all of them, if CPs are so equal and fair, then why aren’t they the universal standard for gay couples everywhere, while more countries are abandoning them for marriage? These idiots never stop to think let alone see the larger picture, incapable or thinking outside the box because their brains have yet to evolve. In fact they’re living proof that devolution exists.

      3. It’s because they mark us out as Other, I think, Robert. In their minds we can never be Like Them, so it doesn’t even occur to them that we should be allowed to marry. We’re tolerated, nothing more.

        You can see it far too often in the way people talk about LGBT people. I’ve lost count of the number of times people have said things like “He’s one of THEM” wink wink, as though we’re not part of the human race. It’s despicable and completely ignorant.

  11. That There Other David 8 Jan 2013, 8:51pm

    If only he were half the man his father was. The half that did the sailing away into the distance, not the half that came back again.

  12. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it – agreed. It is broken and needs fixing. I see the same tired argument about marriage being between a man and a woman for the purpose of procreation. I take it that means he believes the marriage between Charles and Camilla should not have been permitted, given that Mrs Parker Bowles was past child bearing age at the time thecouple tied the knot?

  13. Dave North 8 Jan 2013, 10:31pm

    Not that radical.

    This goon is just so backward to even contemplate anything outwith his naive ignorant plane of existence.

  14. Dave North 8 Jan 2013, 10:44pm

    Ben Summerrskill – Stonewall:

    http://www.peoplemanagement.co.uk/pm/articles/2013/01/interview-with-ben-summerskill.htm

    “Homophobia is part of the human condition.”

    How dare this man purport to represent us.

  15. Robert (Kettering) 9 Jan 2013, 11:47am

    Now if Giles was to turn his wrist ever so slightly (as seen in the photo) then he’d be giving a lovely Facist Salute!

  16. Jock S. Trap 9 Jan 2013, 12:00pm

    Pathetic.

    The only people it’s a ‘radical change’ for is those very bigots. Not society.

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