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Archbishop of Chicago: Same-sex marriage ‘violates natural law’

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  1. Garry Cassell 31 Dec 2012, 5:40pm

    Same-sex marriage is again’st natural law…what about Catholic priest raping 10 and 11 year old boys or younger…is that again’st natural law..or do God tell priest that molesting young boys is God’s divine well…old prevert time to get your head screwed on right..

    1. Celibacy is also against natural law, you naughty cardinal.

      “Marriage comes to us from nature”, said the cardinal, in a recent interview with the Chicago Tribune.

      Think of all those married wild animals out there, they are always getting in the way when you try to get into church.

      1. Sister Mary Clarence 31 Dec 2012, 6:44pm

        Its incredible that the twisted fvcker can stand up & start spouting rubbish about ‘natural’ law when the life he has chosen could not be further from any life nature intended

        Same sex marriage is bad because procreation is not possible, & we are supposed to revere and respect this man who will never procreate. Double standards? Perish the thought.

        Same sex marriage not good for children, and yet research shows that sexual abuse is more likely to occur in (and be ignored by) particular kinds of institutional cultures. In particular, male-dominated organisations that lack oversight and accountability can harbour a “barrack-yard” culture that promotes physical and sexual abuse. THE prime, example of this being the catholic church

        It is slightly ironic also that those in the Catholic church feel the need to ‘whistle blow’ on the perils to the young of same sex marriage, whereas It has been common for institutional authorities, like the Catholic church to silence children who complain

      2. I can’t see any lions, zebras or giraffes running to get married. They can’t even be monogamous. So… what is exactly “natural” in marriage?????

        1. Hysterical Screamer No. 243 1 Jan 2013, 4:00pm

          All I can see is that “Cardinal George” has got the head of feckin Tortoise!

          1. stanJames 2 Jan 2013, 2:30am

            Georgie boy also called the gay pride event a KKK march– Trying to create hatred of gays by the black community

            Of course thats been the mainstaple of the church – riling up people with hate so they feel threatened and give more money to the church. BTW PIUS XII was so dumb that he bankrolled a 30sh year old man about 1920 who needed money to keep his new party alive.

            HIs initials were AH

      3. Celibacy is also against natural law

        Absolutely. But for some reason – and don’t ask me how – these Catholic priests just don’t get it, do they?!

    2. sbilly Wingartenson 2 Jan 2013, 2:59am

      Teh same archbishop who helped hide the endless molestation of children by his sex starved priests. Cardinal George belongs in a jail with the doors welded shut.

  2. Just….

    Stop going on about it. What natural law? Is it not natural to want to be with someone of the same sex? How is that not natural? I am only following how I feel! To be with a woman, to me is decidedly unnatural, since its not how I feel.

    So, just

  3. By the looks of it, his AGE “violates the natural law”.

    *Yawn* Yet another grey-faced old man says something deranged to justify his own sexual repression, and/or assuage his own sexual perversion around children. Don’t throw stones in (state-subsidised) glass houses!

  4. Robert in S. Kensington 31 Dec 2012, 5:46pm

    Interesting isn’t it. hearing all these catholic clergy all mimicing the Vatican’s script as soon as equal marriage is on the table.

    Marriage coming from nature? Is he for real? What would he know about marriage, human relationships aside from diddling a boy here and there, or maybe a girl, or staying silent and covering it up? F_cking morons, bigots and hypocrites. Die already!

  5. “gay couples cannot consummate their unions”
    I enjoy consummating my union quite often. You are welcome to come and watch, Cardinal, if you need proof.
    Bet you’d love that, you old pig.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 1 Jan 2013, 12:37pm

      Someone should tell him that hetero para and quadraplegics can’t consummate, yet they are not barred from marriage. But of course, it doesn’t matter to these psycopathic lying hierarchy as long as one has a penis and the other a vagina no matter how dysfunctional. Their rationale is deeply flawed, not even logical. It’s as screwed up, unnatural as their own supposed celibacy.

  6. ” understanding the way nature operates” Is it natural to rape children?

    In nature most species operate on the principal that the male runs around impregnating as many women as he can and then the women are left to raise the offspring…

  7. Marriage is not “natural” – it’s a social construct – what an absolute dickhead. So, according to him, he’s not “natural” as he opted for a route that didn’t require marriage. These guys really need to get their heads out of their arses!! Yawn.

  8. Look like the Roman Catholic Church has declared World War 3 againts LGBT people worldwide.

    If they could exterminate us- I swear they would!

    1. This is nothing less than a power struggle by a despotic organisation that is so out of touch it can see itself imploding but cannot understand why.

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 31 Dec 2012, 7:03pm

      Then they’d have no priesthood, they’d have to shut up shop!

      1. They’d only be paedophiles left.

    3. billywingartenson 2 Jan 2013, 2:33am

      their pal hitler a catholic as were much of the rest of the top dogs did try to exterminate the gays

      \An estimated 50000 were sent to the deathcamps. Often they are called the forgotten people of the holocaust

  9. Would it not be nice if all these religious bigots (priests, bishops, popes, christian conservatives etc.) could just shut up once and for all? Keep your so called “values” of intolerance and hatred to yourselves.

    1. Well, they tend to get off on putting us down. What weird minds they have. And they call us warped!

  10. casparthegood 31 Dec 2012, 7:00pm

    I am begining to wonder what major scandal are they so desperate to keep everyone from noticing. Seems to me all they are doing is throwing smoke to divert attention away from a problem of their own. Or they could just be totaly fixated on us?

  11. Actually, good Bishop, GROWN men denying themselves sexual relationships is against natural law. And grown men who deny themselves healthy, mutually respectful adult sexual relationships who instead molest children is against natural law.

    And, by the way, male mammals being monogamous is against natural law; which is precisely why marriage was invented, to force men to go against their nature and be monogamous with one mate and to be responsible for his children. I believe marriage is a good and necessary thing, but it is NOT natural.

  12. “Marriage comes to us from nature” – is he having a laugh or what? i’ve yet to hear of married whales or stick insects! what an idiot! these christians will espouse any old crud ‘cos the pewple will just eat up this sh!t without engaging with it. such is the position of power they have over the mentally compromised. “understanding the way nature operates” – yet when it suits them, they stick to a creationist dogma. fraudster.

  13. God violates natural law all the time. It’s how he got born!

  14. Celibacy seems to be against natural law. Homosexuality is a normal variant that exists throughout Various Vertebrate species. As far as marriage goes that is a man made concept that has evolved over the ages.
    I think most rational people realize that marriage can be as much about companionship and intimacy as it is about having children.

  15. Same sex marriage is against natural law says the celibate elderly man in a frock.

    1. probably with poo on his dick and his poor victim kid seeing a butt doctor

  16. Uncle Fester – surely not!

  17. Lieberdavid 1 Jan 2013, 3:28am

    Does anyone here wonder why Roman Catholic leaders all have the same opinions? Do any of them think (for themselves, at all)?

    1. PeterinSydney 1 Jan 2013, 6:57am

      No they don’t under Nazi Ratzi. If they do they get kicked out very fast, by the biggest denier of his own sexuality in the world.

      1. Simon Amstell, comedian, had a good line on TV last night re. these popes! Something like “You can’t kill them. They just keep getting REPLACED!”

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 1 Jan 2013, 12:32pm

      They’re all reading the script sent to them from the Pope. Every one of them is spewing the same garbage, no matter the country they are in. What it says to me is that it’s a an act of utter desperation because they know they’re outnumbered and isolated. Equal marriage is coming and they just don’t like it. They’ll say or do anything hoping it won’t happen. Too late. Their goose is cooked.

  18. PeterinSydney 1 Jan 2013, 6:56am

    Do these fuddy duddy old stale men like peeing in the wind. They deserve to get their own back for all the clap trap that they use to confuse people and to arouse violence and antagonism against gay people.

  19. If we operated by “natural” law then there wouldn’t be any need for doctors, hospitals, drugs, vaccines etc etc….If we operated by “natural” law then we wouldn’t have CPs or marriages and we all be acting like animals and wouldn’t care who we shagged.

    What utter cobblers. We’re not a bunch of animals whose only purpose in life is to mindlessly produce babies one after the other…

    Yes, I undertand how babies get produce and I also understand what marriage is. They don’t necessarily go together in the real human world.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 1 Jan 2013, 2:03pm

      As for babies, well, this cult doesn’t even agree with hetero invitro fertilisation or surrogacy because it’s not “natural”, no penis in the vagina nonsense, their obsession with sex is revealing but not surprising because its primarily responsible for their own sexual repression caused by celibacy, unnatural if anything and against human nature.

  20. As said before: they´re are insane. First they rape children and cover that up even today, yet they´re against gays.
    Think they need priests whom believe that raping kids is okay yet not falling in love with another man.
    It´s really about time someone should take a stance against this idiocy!!

  21. gulliveruk 1 Jan 2013, 8:42am

    Old message; maiiage is a gift from GOD.
    News message; marriage comes to us from nature.

    First one just relevant to religion, now starting to use the 2nd one more and more hoping it resonates with more people. As someone said, marriage is made up – not natural. We can amend it change or extend it any eay we want because its just a man-made social construct. Bonding is natural,gay or straight, 1500 species have been observed in same-sex relationships. 450 documented in considerable detail.

    1. gulliveruk 1 Jan 2013, 8:43am

      Sorry for the typos – still getting use to tablets!

  22. Helge Vladimir Tiller 1 Jan 2013, 8:59am

    Yet another bloody “nazi”-

  23. Helge V. Tiller 1 Jan 2013, 9:38am

    —-using a logic similar to the evaluation of gay and transgender people in Nazi Germany during Hitler. Disgusting and satanic !

  24. Har Davids 1 Jan 2013, 10:20am

    Where’s the science backing up these remarks? Other animals engage in unmarried non-straight sex, just look at the bonobos who’re related to us. It know it’s hard for the religious misogynists these days with all the uppity women, gays and other undesirables talking back, and even your own flock disagreeing in daily life, but with all the resources a pope or bishop has, it should be possible to come up with an argument that seems to cut it at first glance. They just keep on repeating the same old cow-excrement. Give people an intellectual challenge, guys!

    1. Science? You want science from Catholic priests? Good luck with that, but don’t hold your breath!

  25. Oops there goes the 8th commandment again.

  26. Oh, these self-appointed mentally-deluded hot-lines to “God” just love to toss all this powerful-sounding lingo around, don’t they just!

    Violate !!

    Natural Law !!

    These people need stripping of all their regalia, their crosses, and their dog-collars and being forced to stand there in all their naked “splendour”. Then their little squawks of “Violation!” and “Natural Law!” wouldn’t have a tenth of the effect that they have when uttered from the altitudes of the pulpit.

    (Yep, I’m starting this new year as I mean to go on!!!!!!)


  27. Patrick Eagan M.Sc.Nursing RN 1 Jan 2013, 12:02pm

    I think that the Cardinal better dust off and get with the program. I have six adopted kids and they are all well adjusted. Like the other couples, we don’t have private moments when we can in front of the kids. They ask questions we answer them honestly. We were very lucky and bought a farmhouse so everyone has their own bedroom and big enough that there is private places in the home that no one feels overcome.There are four full bathrooms no waiting time and no reservations required. We have four studios for what ever the activity of the month is, room to shut the door and leave it till finished. The one thing is that everybody respects each other. That was instilled in the kids when they were little and that will last them a life time. When the girls need to ask special questions we have a group of friends that will help with that.

    The clergy have a lot of personal problems I think that is what it is all about.

  28. What exactly is he saying is ‘against natural law’? Following the publication of Bruce Bagemihl’s brilliant book ‘Biological Exuberance’ around 2000, all the old lies about homoeroticism being ‘against nature’ have been blown apart. Same-sex sexual activity, including long-term pair-bonding, is now well documented in many hundreds of species and is assumed by natural scientists to occur in most others. There are now several good books about this (e.g., ‘Evolution’s Rainbow’ by Joan Roughgarden, ‘Homosexual Behaviour in Animals: An Evolutionary Perspective’ by Sommer and Vasey, ‘Animal Homosexuality: A Biosocial Perspective by Aldo Poiano). The Archbishop of Chicago really is flogging a dead horse by appealing to the old ‘against natural law’ argument as means of continuing his church’s systematic persecution of LGBTs.

  29. He looks like Doris Karloff.

  30. What a silly and stupid man this Cardinal is.
    All his learning hasn’t taught him the basics of humanity.

  31. The Catholic Church violates natural law by hiding pedophile priest who rape and abuse children.

  32. Robert in S. Kensington 1 Jan 2013, 4:28pm

    Yes cardinal, that’s how families are created such as the likes of Kim Kardashian, still technically married to her husband pending a divorce and just announced she’s pregnant by another man whom she isn’t even married to.

    These bigots need to get their own filthy house of bigotry and hypocrisy in order first before resorting to judging gay people and equal marriage. Sanctity of marriage and family my arse.

  33. Yet more infatuation with sex

    1. Dave North 2 Jan 2013, 9:49am

      Coming from CELIBATE old virgins.

      Personally I think it all stems from sexual frustration.

  34. So he’s sort of saying that gay sex isn’t actual sex?
    So gay men and women are all virgins (assuming they’ve never engaged in sex with someone of the opposite sex)?
    This guy’s an idiot.

  35. Q. WTF is ‘natural law’?

    A. A load of crap invented by the RC, for the sole purpose of claiming gay folk are in breach of it.

    Q. So, it doesn’t exist?

    A. Nope. It’s a way of making the equally non-existent concept of ‘sin’ sound more 21st Century.

    Q. So, it’s bull-poopie and we should ignore the silly man?

    A. Dead right!

    1. Kathryn Howie 1 Jan 2013, 7:29pm

      The catholic doctrine of “natural law” – doesn’t exist any where else except in the frustrated minds of the catholic clerics invented by the boys at the vatican to suggest to the gullable and those just not paying attention that there spouting of nonsense has some basis in reality (ahh that word reality, they been messing with that too recently apparently), it has nothing to do with what happens in nature or what is natural or anything except a fantacy to explain the other rubbish they spout, but mainly to delude and obscure.
      put simply if there is not a ^ in a v – then it is not legitimate sex, bit like other idiocies from the catholic stable recently like legitimate rape, and the life begins at ejaculation rubbish, which they have never refuted.

  36. M. Knight 9 Jan 2013, 6:35pm

    I didn’t leave the Catholic Church, IT LEFT ME. Was tought God loves everyone and couldn’t make anything imperfect. I love God and He made me and I’m GAY. I won’t call you bad names. You’re just WRONG. God will Judge one of us and I don’t wear a black dress.

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