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Gay New Jersey Assemblyman says he agrees with putting gay equality to a public vote

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  1. He is a moron who is unfit for office if he believes that a minority’s civil rights should be subject to a public vote.

    It is a truly revolting position to take and he is a spineless, revolting Uncle Tom.

  2. Robert in S. Kensington 26 Dec 2012, 8:12pm

    I don’t agree with referenda either. What they allow in the American system is mob rule in states where these things are permitted which is what resistance to equal marriage is all about there. It makes you wonder why have legislatures if the laws passed democratically are allowed to be subverted by religious nutters in this case and a religious (catholic) governor has the power to veto the law. You wouldn’t think this sort of thing would happen in a country which prides itself on having a supposedly separation of church and state. I’m glad I don’t live there. Even with our state cult, it’s still a lot better politically and socially for that matter.

    1. The initiative, referendum and recall were “progressive” ideas when they were introduced in the US near the turn of the 20th century; the purpose–direct democracy–was to counter rampant corruption in state legislatures. In practice, however, they have been used almost exclusively for mischief from the beginning. It is time that they be rethought and, I think, eliminated.

      The veto is an important checks-and-balances power to every governor’s office, and in every case a means exists to override a veto.

  3. Craig Nelson 26 Dec 2012, 9:29pm

    This story is already a few days old. There is no consensus on the part of supporters of same sex marriage as to holding a ballot.

    It’s a bit premature also – they might conceivably get enough votes to override the governor’s veto or persuade the governor to lift his veto; there’s also a court case outstanding that in any case might have a different import if DOMA s3 is overruled (civil unions were mandated in the courts in New Jersey as a mandate to allow access to all the rights of marriage).

    Such a poll would have better than even chances of success but be very expensive and subject same sex families and lgbt people to the distress and anxiety of a prolonged homophobic campaign by our opponents.

    Civil rights should be shielded from majority rule wherever possible and such a referendum should be a last resort only.

  4. The problem is that Christie is VERY popular after his handling of Hurricane Sandy and thus the only way he is really likely to leave the governor’s office is feet first or if he runs for, and wins, the presidency. But Christie, a Republican, will NEVER sign off on a same-sex marriage law. Thus he suggested a referendum, because if it passes then he can tell Republicans nationally that it was the fault of left-leaning NJ voters and not because of anything he did.

  5. Kathryn Howie 27 Dec 2012, 1:17pm

    If DOMA gets overturned next June/July at SCOTUS wont the NJ SC enforce their previous ruling and compell equal marriage?
    Full Federal benefits would be available then for those in a same sex marriage, which New Jersey recignises when performed elsewhere, thus creating a blatent inequality between the NJ civil unions and those in a recognised same-sex marriage within New Jersey – thus triggering a equal protection violation.

  6. Pavlos Prince of Greece 27 Dec 2012, 3:02pm

    Its only realistic way to have same-sex marriage here, and in many other American states too (including Pennsylvania, Oregon, Ohio, Virginia). Next spring Supreme Court will strike down the section 3 of ‘Doma’ only, and in the best case scenario – Prop. 8 too. The way still is very very long indeed. How good, that we have President Obama: so are nominations of one, two or even three new (liberal) justices to the Supreme Court in the next four years in his hands . If/when court will decide on gay marriage as ‘civil right’ nationwide 10 years from now, Obamas legacy will be very important.

  7. Stephen Schroeder 27 Dec 2012, 10:59pm

    Are you kidding me? It’s great to have same sex friends. It is not natural for same sex sexual relations. It is a perversion that needs to be stopped. Brain damage comes to mind for same sex intercourse. This perversion has been the root cause for great nations to collapse. God and nature has a way of correcting unnatural behavior and repairs what has gone astray. Please people use your brain for good, not evil.

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