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  1. I’ve been educated a huge amount about straight sex and it doesn’t make me want to try it

    1. This man needs to ask himself some serious questions abbout his obsession with gay sex.

  2. Is this article satire? Is this bigot real? Surely this is a joke?

    1. Agreed.

      Either I’ve drunk too much tonight and I’m hallucinating this idiot’s comments or I’m sober and witnessing the death of satire.

      1. It is hard to believe that someone this stupid can hold high office. Monmouth has a huge sheep population, but I didn’t know that they had given sheep the vote.

        Does he realise that straight people engage in an*l sex? They don’t teach that in school do they?

        1. another ignorant tory. how has the british public managed to elect so many of them? and our lives are in the hands of these jokers? scary!!

        2. another ignorant tory. how has the british public managed to elect so many of them? scary!!

  3. Somebody should remind him that anal sex is one of many forms of sex and can be done by heterosexuals too.

    1. I suspect he won’t believe you ! He’s that naive :D

      1. How has such an ingenue managed to become a Tory MP at all?

    2. I know, I don’t get the issue. People will be sexually experimenting! THE HORROR! He should count himself lucky I’m not in charge of sex ed if he thinks anal isn’t tasteful.

    3. Anal sex was at one time considered a perfectly normal form of birth control for (often Catholic) couples.

  4. What has equal marriage got to do with sex education at schools?

    I thought the education act simply says to teach children the importance of marriage to families and the bringing up of children.

    The mechanics of sex is quite different and SSM/gay/equal marriage has no impact on that. Sex , believe it or not, happens outside of marriage quite a lot nowadays. We are in the 21st century after all, anyway CPs already exist and schools have to teach children about CPs anyway and at the moment CPs are for gay couples only.

    Is it Mr Davies wish to ban all mention of gays on TV, books,media etc etc just in case he has to teach his 3 kids about anal sex? Does he automatically want to teach his kids about vaginas and penisis just becuase he see straight people kissing in the street?

  5. David Josef 21 Dec 2012, 11:53pm

    The person who wrote the question for him is getting a pat on the back for he is in the news.
    I remember sex education at school, it was about reproduction – I am sure anal sex has been enjoyed in relationships with male & female,female & female, male & male, as have blow jobs, cunnilingus, rimming, docking, tea bagging, snowballing, spanking – you add the rest.
    The guy is a first class knob himself, hoping to whip the Daily Mail readers into an Anti Gay frenzy, which will give them something to talk about as they dress for fox hunting & eat game for dinner.
    See what I did then? I made a stereotypical remark on how one perceives a lifestyle, & I am wrong.

    At school you are told this is where babies come from, not about foreplay, positions & preferences.
    His story should be shot down by a member who has any consideration for human decency.
    I remember Tories saying Nelson Mandela was a terrorist – & deserved his time in gaol.
    To me this is the same.
    Choice headlines.

  6. It’s quite funny that he thinks everyone APART FROM HIM will want to try Gay sex if they hear about it.
    Sex is taught in schools in the context of conception, contraception, protection and health. Teachers don’t talk about blow jobs for God’s sake. Do they?!
    Most anal sex going on in the world is between straight couples – particularly Catholics, who use it as a form of birth control. Is that discussed?
    He wants his hypothetical Gay child to be happy. How will burying the subject of Gay relationships achieve this?
    What a douche.

  7. So… who do we contact to have his kids taken off him? If I was his son, I’m pretty certain I would have killed myself long before I reached adulthood.

    1. It is his kids I feel sorry for. They will either have to work out their father is an idiot or end up being as idiotic as him. Not a great future in their lives.

  8. I read the whole article earlier – very long. He is ill-advised to have given yet another interview since he’s all over the place in his views, changing and exploring them as he’s asked, clearly not having worked out his views.

    Nobody is going to be teaching The Karma Sutra in schools – kids are not going to be interested in multiple techniques, and nor is school the right place for that. Teaching about relationships, which include all relationships, would be a damned good idea. It would certainly have been beneficial to Davies.

    1. ” Teaching about relationships, which include all relationships, would be a damned good idea. It would certainly have been beneficial to Davies.”

      Yes if ever there was an example of someone who obviously missed out on a balanced sex and relationship education it would have to be David Davies.

  9. This man seems to be preoccupied with obsessions about gay sex! It seems like he has deeper issues than concerns.

  10. ‘Right, this is straight sex, this is gay sex…’ No. There is just sex. In all its wondrous variety. If he pops into any Ann Summers store he’ll see all sorts of things that people use in all sorts of places to enhance their sexual endeavours, whether gay or straight. I do hope his wife puts a few treats in his Xmas stocking! Once he’s enlightened, hopefully he’ll shut up.

  11. Why is this bigot extremist in the Tories.

    Isn’t the BNP a more suitable party for an extremist like this?

    1. He’ll probably end up as a UKIP candidate.

      1. That’s true! He’s a well known eurosceptic.

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Dec 2012, 12:12pm

      He’s not the only one. There are many others on the back bench who probably have similar views. Edward Leigh for example.

  12. So what if it does? Why shouldn’t kids be taught that the missionary position and penetrative sex aren’t be all and end all of sex?

    1. de Villiers 22 Dec 2012, 10:27pm

      I think that kids learn quite a bit from the Internet.

  13. Straight people do it to. Age appropriate proper education on ALL aspects of safer sex is appropriate for young people – stop being so squeamish, it’s not helping.

    And someone who thinks that just hearing about it will make them want to try it is clearly…well…questioning at the very least. Since most people do not have a sexual orientation that is subject to suggestion that way, it is those that do who believe that everyone is just like them.

  14. I went to school with this man as my MP. He should be more concerned about the low standard of sex education generally in Monmouthshire, not about this.

    Those who don’t want to have gay sex won’t, and those who do will know more about how to do it properly and safely. Net bonus, methinks. In any case, non-vaginal forms of sex are not exclusive to gay people, Mr Davies…

    Lastly, as a male who came out during my teens and now has a girlfriend, it really does get tiring explaining to people how it is not a phase! I am assuming Davies is thinking of people like me when he believes this lie, but there are also those who grow up being convinced that they are 100% straight, then end up with someone of the same sex. Did they go through phases, I wonder?

  15. Most kids know that some people are gay.
    Many of them will actually know someone who is gay.
    Most of them will be completely aware of Civil Partnerships – it’s been discussed in hundreds of articles in the press.
    Most kids know about anal sex.
    Most kids know about sex anyway.

    But he wants to vote down very important primary legislation for loving adults in stable committed relationships, which will provide equality, because he has “a slight sense of unease” ?!

    If I hadn’t seen he was 42 I would have never guessed it by his views. How did this person manage to become an MP :( His views seem incredibly immature to me – even 16 year olds seem to have a better grasp of this than him. I guess his naive views may be the result of Section 28.

    1. Section 28 was passed in 1988 and repealed in 2003. A man who is currently 42 years old would have been in secondary education (5-16) between 1975 and 1986. It’s not going to be that.

      1. Yes and no: while s28 wasn’t in force while he was in school, the wider cultural attitudes which made it possible were in full force.

  16. Homosexual sex should be taught is sex education classes.

    As things are right now, it is all geared towards heterosexuals. There is nothing that covers the potential risks involved in same sex sexual activity, and there is no advice on how to engage in homosexual sex safely.

    David Davis clearly does not approve of any proposal aiming to lessen the risk of injury, infection, and death among homosexuals.

  17. What a brilliant idea to suggest cutting back on sex ed and teaching about (str8) marriage instead. Such a brilliant idea, in fact, that it should cause anyone to consider whether young people would be given enough information.

    At this point it is worth mentioning the case of the Christian couple who were unable to conceive after 10 years of trying. After fertility tests, which came back as normal, their GP finally asked how they “did it”. The husband had been putting it in the wrong orifice, because it seemed the most obvious place, and neither his wife or himself had been told what was the more appropriate place.

    Some guys might envy that particular husband. They would not envy the women with perforated urethras or perforated navels who, along with their husbands, were similiarly ignorant about the birds and the bees.

  18. Christopher Hobe Morrison 22 Dec 2012, 12:33am

    So David Davies thinks that gay sex is so disgusting he jumped out of his seat when asked. Hemust have really hated it all those years.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Dec 2012, 12:24pm

      I picked up on that too. I suspect he is in deep emotional conflict about his own sexual orientation. I also suspect he’s a deeply repressed gay man living a lie. If he were that comfortable in his own skin, secure, he wouldn’t even bother opening his mouth and spewing this nonsense. The man is totally unhinged. That’s what religion does to you. Represses, suppresses, oppresses, that’s what it’s all about. Is it no wonder the catholic cult for example, has arguably the highest rate of sex crimes (paedophilia) of any clergy on the planet? A classic example of repression.

  19. In terms of biology lessons, i.e. the facts of life and reproduction – No, I have no doubt that anal sex would be covered.

    However in PSHE at around G.C.S.E. level where sex is covered (Not in massive deatil by any standard) I think it should be at least mentioned about it and the risks involved.

    Though I’m sure that almost all teenagers by the age of 16 know that gay men have anal sex, regardless of whether they are taught it or not. It just get passed on.

    1. Appologies, I meant “would not be covered” in regards to biology lessons.

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Dec 2012, 12:16pm

      Those same teenagers will also find out that many heterosexuals engage in anal sex, married couples included. There is a vast amount of heterosexual pornography dedicated to anal sex apparently. I wouldn’t be surprised if Davies himself engages in it. You know, the ones who protest too much types.

  20. These idiots walk amongst us. Why are homophobes so obsessed with what Gay people do in bed? (Anal sex is very much enjoyed by heterosexuals also).

  21. Carl Rowlands 22 Dec 2012, 1:07am

    Empty vessels make most noise!

  22. Pavlos Prince of Greece 22 Dec 2012, 1:17am

    I suspect, that this ‘friend’ from school times is just ‘nom de plumes’ of Mr. Davies itself, I am right? (‘its happen once – no, not for me – but for one my very close friend, I can`t say now his name…’ etc.,etc. The story is old as the world)

    1. I wonder what his favourite Erazure number was? If David really didn’t wear jeans with splits in them himself he must have really wanted to, seeing as he has such a vivid memory of them.

    2. Hah, I was just thinking the same thing. The mixed up boy with the Erasure albums!

      I was also wondering why these 16 year olds all met down the pub? The licensing laws are the same in Wales aren’t they? Or is going to the pub at 16 a sign of manliness?

  23. Why is it that homophobes are so obsessed with anal sex? It seems like they think about it more than most gays do.

  24. I think it is actually of critical importance that we have as much sex education as we can in schools, and as early as we can. Why? So sex is seen as a perfectly normal, unremarkable and everyday thing. So it is not seen as sordid and secret and shameful. So the next generation doesn’t grow up with the same stupid Victorian and 1950s hang-ups about sex that ruined the lives of previous generations.

    Because other countries aren’t nearly as squeamish and repressed as we are in their attitudes to sex education in schools. In the Netherlands and Scandinavia it is covered early and comprehensively, and as a result they have some of the lowest STD and unwanted teenage pregnancy rates in the world.

    Because sex education doesn’t make young people want sex more – it actually makes them want it less. It takes away the covert glamour and allure of secrecy that is otherwise associated with it. When sex is seen as a normal and everyday thing people just don’t get so worked up about it.

    1. Sex is sacred. It is our own responsability to give our offspring the healthiest and most informative education on the current understanding of science and to do less is to deny them an insight into the now. The past is done, we need to look to the future.

      1. de Villiers 22 Dec 2012, 10:33pm

        I’m not sure that I would say that sex is sacred but people should have less concern about it.

    2. de Villiers 22 Dec 2012, 10:31pm

      Sex has a strange fascination in England. English people can be prudish but also have breasts in a daily newspaper.

  25. I’m pretty sure this already happens. I remember being taught about anal sex in high school (I’m 28 now, so this was quite a while ago). I don’t recall the teacher ever specifying it as being for gay people, we were just taught about the different kinds of sex that two people could engage in.

  26. Marko Hubert 22 Dec 2012, 1:51am

    I’m a bit shock. Does that mean that children from heterosexual couple are tought by their parents all about heterosexual sex? that guy is a complete idiot. My parents never told us about how they had sex so why should I do that if I have ever a kid? What happen in the bedroom must stay there as far as I’m concern. What a disgusting idiot.

  27. I’ve never worn split jeans, or bought an Erasure album. Does that mean that I’m secretly straight?

    1. Ah, yes, you’re obviously just confused. You need to talk to this well-adjusted Welshman right now.

      (Note, attempt at irony. Don’t vote me down!)
      Also I’m not making fun of the Welsh, just this bad example from their gene pool.

  28. If I’m not mistaken, many straight people have anal sex, and sensible sexual health studies should cover whatever students need to be prepared for.

  29. The already do! in 6thform we had sex education lessons that talked about anal sex, tthis was about 4 years ago!

    1. Well that answers David Davies and in the 6th form you are old enough to talk about these things, age appropriate information.

  30. I wasn’t aware teachers recommended a form of sex. When I was attending sex-ed classes I didn’t recall teacher giving us pointers as to what we might do when we have sex. They teach children about drugs without ‘recommending’ a substance to try. “Well all drugs are pretty good children but I’d recommend giving pot a go, for beginners and see how you get on from there”. What a ridiculous comment by this laughably foolish man.

  31. Christopher in Canada 22 Dec 2012, 3:41am

    Dan Savage says we should all be taught about pleasure giving and seeking rather than reproduction, and how to convince someone else to fuck you.

  32. “He’d started coming down to the pub at 16 with, you know, splits in his jeans, and started buying Erasure albums, and all the rest of it – and three years later he’s suddenly horrified by the whole thing!”

    I had a friend who used to be into Erasure – obviously I’m not personally..ahem…into Erasure of course (nervous laugh) – but it didn’t make any difference to me being his friend and certainly didn’t turn me into an Erasure fan;)

  33. casparthegood 22 Dec 2012, 6:46am

    I’ve been on the scene for more than 30 years and to date the people who are most interested in what I might do in bed are all straight. Am I on the right scene or is that this guy and and his friends are just being plain nosey and needing a good slap for cheek? I don’t give a tuppeny damm what he gets up to why should he be interested in what I do?

  34. That ‘slight sense of unease’, Mr Davis, is homophobia. Probably caused by deep unexplored feelings of attraction.

  35. So 45 years after the legalising of homosexual sex in Britain (something to be proud of!) teaching about gay sex is not on our schools’ curriculum :(

  36. Sister Mary Clarence 22 Dec 2012, 7:50am

    “When Ms Aitkenhead asked him if he could give a reason why more people having gay sex as a result of being taught about homosexuality would be a bad thing ….”

    All credit to the journalist interviewing him …. clearly not on Mr Davies side

  37. Silly Man… go home and stop talking you are making yourself look more ridiculous than ever

  38. The best way to avoid causing offense, is to keep your thick gob shut !!!

  39. This man has serious issues! He’s OBSESSED about gay sex! I can’t imagine why ….

  40. Perhaps they should teach schoolchildren that many anti-gay bigots have an excessive preoccupation with anal sexual activity and they seem to have it going on constantly in their puerile imaginations.

  41. The sex education curriculum will provide information that is age appropriate.
    I think David Davies must be in the pocket of the Christian Institute who in the past were caught out lying about infants supposedly being taught “gay sex” in schools.

    (see)
    “Peers attack Christian Institute for lies about sex education proposals”

    http://www.secularism.org.uk/peers-attack-christian-institute.html

  42. “… I hate to say this, I hate to say this, and I don’t want it to cause outrage or offence … ”

    The guy’s getting off on it more like.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Dec 2012, 4:29pm

      He doesn’ t hate to say it because he knows by saying it causes offence to some of us. Even in that he lies, but then ‘christian’ bigots always do.

  43. Seems like a bit of a ‘Layby Larry’ to me and if so he’ll know full well they ain’t just for resting in :)

  44. Couold we please be told what the 22 Dec 2012, 11:04am

    English lesson: Davies hasn’t questioned this; he has asked this.

    To question something is to raise a doubt or reservation about something regarded as accepted: Galileo questioned whether the sun went around the earth.

    Davies hasn’t questioned whether gay sex should be taught. He has asked whether this is to come about.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 23 Dec 2012, 1:28pm

      It’s no different than people claiming polygamy, incest and bestiality could occur if gay couples are allowed to marry. The thing is, it hasn’t. Eleven countries with equal marriage are overwhelming proof that there is no demand for any of it. No western government would ever support it, let alone legislate for it. Polygamy is banned in the UK. The only ones currently practicing it are certain heterosexual Islamic cultures. I would have asked him why he’s not condemning that.

  45. Robert (Kettering) 22 Dec 2012, 12:03pm

    This idiot shouldn’t be allowed out on his own let alone be an MP!? What fools elected this moron into office????

    1. Grrrrrr. They nabbed that one.
      Try; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cTj–MjC7k

    2. Well, there you go, he can’t be a homophopbe! He owns Boy George’s Greatest Hits!

      (note sarcasm, again)

  46. That There Other David 22 Dec 2012, 12:13pm

    I don’t get the relevance between his comments and equalising access to marriage. Is he saying the government shouldn’t allow same-sex couples to marry because we’re all actually just going through a phase?

    What a mental case.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Dec 2012, 1:28pm

      If I’d conducted the interview, I would have asked him if he were aware that many heterosexuals, including married ones, engage in anal sex. I would have then asked them how it could happen if they weren’t taught it in schools, let alone by their parents? Let’s face it, the man is a religious homophobic bigot and he can’t even be honest about it, but then that’s a bigot for you. The Tory party arguably is rife with those types compared to Labour and Liberal Democrats. They’re the ones who are making the ‘nasty’ party label stick, sadly. I can’t believe not one of them in support of us doesn’t even dare challenge their spurious, irrational rhetoric. If anyone isn’t normal, it’s Davies and his ilk.

  47. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Dec 2012, 12:27pm

    I think someone in the Tory party needs to have a talk with this moron. He’s not well. He should resign. Unfit for public office.

  48. Another bigot who’s seemingly totally obsessed with gay sex! Sotr out your own issues, Mr Davies, and don’t project them onto us.

    I feel embarrassed for him. Has he no adviser to tell him to keep quiet rather than make a fool of himself?

  49. Who exactly voted for this buffoon, anyway?
    He belongs with the BNP or UKIP, not a mainstream political party

    1. de Villiers 22 Dec 2012, 10:28pm

      The electorate, I would think.

  50. I feel no anger towards this guy, and people that are aggressive towards him… well you’re not really helping the case of gay people. Being gay is something that even gay peope find really difficult to deal with, so why should it be ‘forbidden’ for straight people to question their feelings on the matter?
    His views are in no way extreme, why shouldn’t he be able to talk about it? If anything, this could help other people deal with how they feel about the issue themselves, knowing they are not alone in the way they think.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Dec 2012, 4:23pm

      That’s because you probably think the same as he does and aren’t even gay.

  51. Aryu Gaetu 22 Dec 2012, 3:23pm

    I have several friends that have no interest in giving or receiving any anal sex, myself included. We’re all Gay. Does this mean they are going to take away our Gay club member cards? Damn, I just sent my $20 annual membership fee for 2013. Can I keep my free membership gift, the framed “Gay Agenda” as authored by the Pope?

    If anal (or vaginal) sex is the only chapter in your sex book, you need a much bigger book.

  52. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Dec 2012, 4:27pm

    Would he I wonder consider hetero oral sex not normal? Some of these religious nutters call it by its biblical term, sodomy. It doesn’t lead to proceation so I suspect they might have an issue with it, yet they never mention it in terms of the ‘norm’. Would he think that that too would be taught in schools and children would put it into practice? That would have been another question I’d have put to him.

  53. Well, I guess I’m happy to see that the US Congress doesn’t have a monopoly on morons in office. Davies really doesn’t seem to know what he thinks, aside from having “a slight sense of unease.”

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 22 Dec 2012, 6:28pm

      Well, ithe GOP certainly has a lot more morons of this ilk in their party alone. Almost all of them are opposed to equal marriage, more than half of our Tory party support it, almost all of Labour and Liberal Democrats are on board.

  54. ptit suisse 22 Dec 2012, 8:21pm

    AlaN Partridge lives…so embarrasing

  55. are we going to have a situation where the teacher’s saying, ‘Right, this is straight sex, this is gay sex, feel free to choose, it’s perfectly normal to want to do both. And you know, why not try both out?’ I mean, are we going to have that?

    Sure sounds good…

  56. de Villiers 23 Dec 2012, 9:05am

    I have read the interview in The Guardian and it seems clear that he just has limited knowledge and education about homosexuality. It is not so much ernicious bigotry as ignorance.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 23 Dec 2012, 1:21pm

      He’s also said that some of the things he said were rather tactless and that equal marriage is coming and that he just has to accept it. So yes, he’s ignorant about sexuality and sexual orientation and probably knows very little about heterosexuality either other than procreation and biblical religious marriage. It’s quite frightening to think that people like him get elected in this day and age of ‘enlightenment’.

  57. I’m 23, I went through sex education what, 10 years ago now? I really think my school must have been ahead of the curve.

    We were taught about male masturbation, female masturbation and how to do it safely (I distinctly remember a picture of a penis near a toaster with a big red X through it). We were taught the mechanics of vaginal sex and baby making, and taught the mechanics of anal sex too.

    Condom use was forced down our throats on a weekly basis with STI pictures popping up everywhere! We were told condom use was for oral, vaginal and anal sex…

    Homosexual/Heterosexual differences never came up! o.0

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 23 Dec 2012, 1:17pm

      Nathan, you ought to drop David Davies a line about that.

  58. The more he opens his mouth, the more he puts his foot in it.

    What a complete and utter moron!

    1. It gets better. He even manages to do a hatchet job on himself
      http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/dec/21/david-davies-gay-marriage-interview

  59. Patrick Lyster-Todd 24 Dec 2012, 10:42pm

    What an abhorrent and unpleasant representative of the ‘Nasty Party’, still evidently alive and unreformed, despite the best efforts of some in the Conservative Party. It worries me that some of our politicians are so ill-informed, regardless of hue. Consistent research over the last 20 years has shown that a significant number of straight couples also indulge in anal sex, for a variety of reasons (which is entirely their business) …

  60. Not all gay or bi guys are into anal… But some straights like doing it. Life ain’t black or white… Coming across as a simpleton isn’t a good look!

  61. and, of course, sraight couples never have anal sex…

  62. Robert Brown 25 Dec 2012, 3:36pm

    as if straights don’t do anal . . .

    ahem . . .

    http://www.rainbow-citizen.com

  63. Robert Brown 25 Dec 2012, 4:31pm

    . . . made me choke and laugh out loud . . .

    “If you’re going to explain the facts of life you’ve got to explain at some point, penis, vagina, they go together, this is how children are made. Well, do you also have to start explaining in similar detail how gay sex is carried out?”

    My penis and a vagina has NEVER gone together . . . it’s just not natural . . .

    Born gay – Always gay . . . naturally fabulous . . . aren’t we all . . . !!!

    http://www.rainbow-citizen.com

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