Uganda’s president: Gay people should not be killed or persecuted

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  1. D.McCabe  17 Dec 2012, 4:48pm  Report
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    “If there are some homosexuals, we shall not kill or persecute them but there should be no promotion of homosexuality”. But at the same time, you are not going to offer any protection for your country’s LGBT community.

    Shameful, absolutely shameful!

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    1. Its a progress, step by step

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      1. Quite right, compared to the rest of the governing body in Uganda the President seems to actually be quite liberal. While not ideal it is indeed a move forward…. even if they are baby steps.

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  2. Garry Cassell  17 Dec 2012, 4:58pm  Report
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    You have made a move forward . now continue…by removing the House speaker…only then will the world believe you…follow that by making laws to protect the LGBT community…Until that is accomplished…NO country should trade or give any kind of aid to Uganda…PERIOD..

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    1. That There Other David  17 Dec 2012, 5:24pm  Report
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      Does he actually have the authority to remove Kadaga? I’d be surprised if he does.

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  3. Charlie  17 Dec 2012, 4:59pm  Report
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    Promote ? the man is delusional. People dont just wake up one day and say hmmm i like guys now, or see another guy kissing a guy and think oh i like it.

    People need to understand LGBT people have brought great benefits to society. The two-spirit Native Americans are a good example. Many were healers, teachers and protectors for their communities. And they were loved for who they were.

    Im gay and born that way and i 200% happy with that.
    I just wish bigoted people would just GO AWAY!

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    1. de Villiers  17 Dec 2012, 6:53pm  Report
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      That is the problem. The President is not delusional – just a product of his culture. For him, the position is rational. Sadly, there are far too many people who believe in this to wish them to go away.

      I admit not to knowing what is the best way of dealing with this – cutting aid and casting out such countries or trying to engage constructively with them.

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      1. Charlie  17 Dec 2012, 8:13pm  Report
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        Yeah i see what you mean. I never thought on it like that.

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    2. Darren Theoret  18 Dec 2012, 10:56am  Report
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      Charlie, two-spirit people still exist and still have these roles. Thanks for knowing this. I am a traditional two-spirited Mohawk Indian in Canada and do traditional healing work in the community.

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  4. Pavlos Prince of Greece  17 Dec 2012, 5:33pm  Report
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    The traditional kings of Uganda ‘did so in secret end not promote it’, so Mr. President. Well, Edward II, James I and Henry III of France ‘did so’ very clear in the eyes of public – and see, a couple of years later England, Scotland and indeed France debates same-sex marriage. How sad, that Pavlos I of Greece (1947-1964) has live his homosexuality very secretly indeed! For example, in his own yacht in the Mediterranean, together with Christopher Isherwood and his friends from New York. Maybe we have be now a same-sex marriage law in Greece too …

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  5. Society ‘promotes’ heterosexuality every minute of every day but it didn’t make me straight.

    When people talk about ‘promoting homosexuality’ they often mean simply acknowledging it exists. Bigots seem to wish we were invisible.

    I hope he moves on from the idea that gay people shouldn’t be killed or persecuted to the idea that LGBT people should just be left alone to live their lives like everyone else.

    And it’s ironic that he talks about Western society not keeping sexual matters private – yet his government seems obsessed with snooping into people’s bedrooms to see what they do in bed and with what gender.

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    1. Jock S. Trap  18 Dec 2012, 11:00am  Report
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      Excellent point…. another shock… most LGBT people are born with ‘heterosexual’ parents…. how can that be possible when they bang on about Gay people having Gay children. My son isn’t.

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  6. If I’ve understood properly, Museveni would veto the kill-the-gays bill.

    That in itself is a relief, although I wish he would have made that clear three years ago.

    It’s also good to hear Museveni acknowledge that homosexuality has been ‘part of Ugandan history and culture.

    His attitude at the moment may be unfriendly, but it certainly is not as deadly as I had feared.

    In that sense, it’s Museveni, not Kadaga, who plays Santa Claus in Uganda.

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    1. F Young  17 Dec 2012, 7:31pm  Report
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      As I understand it, Museveni could veto the bill, but his veto could be overturned by two thirds vote in the legislature. Far more than two thirds of legislators support the bill.

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      1. Its about money ! If enough countries stop their aid to these barstards then they will reconsider their position !

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  7. Parison  17 Dec 2012, 7:19pm  Report
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    Just for the record I have all my sex in private

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  8. twitless  17 Dec 2012, 8:46pm  Report
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    “but there should be no promotion of homosexuality.”

    What, like buy one get one free?

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  9. Stephan  17 Dec 2012, 8:56pm  Report
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    “… there should be no promotion of homosexuality”.

    Come out and die.

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  10. The smell of receding money must be setting off alarm bells.

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  11. Thanks to everyone who agitated and lobbied to undermine this bill. The battle clearly isn’t over but there seems to be a small positive shift with this statement.

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  12. “We cannot accept promotion of homosexuality as if it is a good thing.”

    President Museveni, let me paraphrase your words using skin colour (in place of sexual orientation) in a country like, Sweden or China – ” We cannot accept promotion of a dark Ugandan skin colour as if it was a (normal) good skin colour to have (in our nation fair-skinned native people).
    I knew I was attracted to my gender since I was about 4-6 years old. I didn’t choose to be in a minority group!!

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  13. GingerlyColors  18 Dec 2012, 7:24am  Report
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    President Yoweri Museveni sounds more reasonable than the likes of David Bahiti (sponsor of the Anti Homosexuality Bill) and Rebecca Kadaga and many others that seem to infest the Ugandan parliament. Note the operative words ‘killed’ and ‘persecuted’. Not only should the bill should be scrapped altogether for good, he should at least remove the threat of prosecution for gay sex in private. Until then we will have to take Mr. Museveni’s comments with a pinch of salt.

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  14. Jock S. Trap  18 Dec 2012, 10:58am  Report
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    Whilst his comments may be welcome to a point I have to say that only ignorant people think you can promote something someone is born with and believe in them in a negative way. He clearly, like too many others in Uganda, thinks the LGBT community should live a lie to appease those discriminating bigots.

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  15. Came under Maine  18 Dec 2012, 11:19am  Report
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    Yoweri Museveni is a thief and a liar presiding over a collective of thieves and liars, he is trying to limit the damage being threatened to the flow of international aid that keeps him and his cronies in money and power. No more international aid to Uganda end of.

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  16. “Ministers have warned MPs that passing the bill would have implications for foreign relations.”

    That is the real reason for this statement, they are worried about loosing more funding.

    A lone voice in a very corrupt place. I really hope we hear more of this type of thing, it must be awful living in a place like that with so much hatred around you.

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  17. Diepiriye Kuku  22 Dec 2012, 11:19am  Report
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    It’s noteworthy to really look at the broad coalition of religious zealots who organize around their hatred of gays. The Pope and African dictators agree on little, if anything, save for their hatred of gays. By extension, men should be violent and in control, while women should be submissive and sexually available to men. Their hatred of gays is a natural extension of those beliefs because gays totally disrupt their social order. Homophobia is a distinct form of sexism, yet homophobia can only exist in the context of narrow gender norms.

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