To this that we cause such a divide!!
This is shameful, as I have stated before MP’s were voted in to speak for US not their conscience.
What signal is going out to those young people and others who are LGBT with such negativity prominate in the press/Media, from religion and even from within the Houses of Parliament.
Do anyone of the nah sayers actually give a thought to what they are saying and how they are acting and how it affects all of us who just happen to have been born Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual…. The discrimination is shocking, it’s like a free for all for the nasty bigots.
They will be judged on their actions!
Having followed this story “equal marriage” for months, and wishing to attain a proper status in society instead of the CP breadcrumbs begrudgingly bestowed I am truly sickened at the level of bile these bigots are capable of.
I feel that I have zero worth in this civilisation of ours and these cretins will not stop until they have driven me into an early grave.
I demand the right to stop paying tax. If I am of no value to society then why the f@ck should I pay into it.
Dave, occasionally I feel as you do – particularly last week when that All-American Family Guy said that if gayness is genetic then gay babies should be aborted. Then a couple of days later I went out onto the street and bumped into the local holier-than-thou who likes to be seen to befriend my partner and I. She’d just come from church so was full of the love of her non-existent god, so we had a challenging conversation. But I held my ground and we parted with rigid grins and . . . on we go. It’s going to be decades, if not a century or two, before homophobia dies out.
“They will be judged on their actions!”
I’m sorry to say this, but not really. Do you believe The Green Party will be the biggest party after the next elections? Gay rights are thought of as a moral issue. We all know how ‘moral’ our society is.
By definition if they deem gay rights a “moral” issue then they deem us as immoral.
Says more about them…..!
Mooz – When I say “They will be judged on their actions!”… I’m not on about any party but the individuals. Come time they Will be judged.
“both MPs are of deep religious faith.”
F off out of the party and appease your fictional deity.
Leave the grown up politics to adults capable of reason and logic..
I’m so sick of all the nonsense about this. What is so hard to understand? LGBT people want to get married, and some religious organisations want to perform the ceremonies.
The whole thing stinks of Vatican Inc. throwing tantrums because it’s not getting its own way. Give it up Josef!! Your bunch lost the ability to decide what this country does 500 years ago!!
Wonders never cease with the UK Labour Party on the voting issue!
But then again at least the UK Labor Party is light years and way ahead of the dopy, gutless and stupid Australia Labor Party!
Resign? They should be expelled forthwith. Stand up, Ed Milliband!
Why have these poisonous bigots not been named?
Shall they be expelled from teh front benc for their bigotry.
Ed Miliband is weak and I don’t believe anything he says now. He should NEVER have agreed to a free vote. Why should it matter now that the CoE got more than it wanted, a foolproof amendment guaranteeing full protection and a ban on opting in. To hell with a free vote, makes no sense now. The other denominations’ support of equal doesn’t affect the naysayers in Parliament and the Lords one iota. They got what they wanted and more.
What makes 3 Labour MPs think they can get their way?
Oh well, this means fewer votes to push equal marriage through. It’s looking more fragile by the day and we’ll have Tories and Labour to thank for it.
“both MPs are of deep religious faith”. Which, as far as I am concerned, they should not be in parliament then!
They should actually be in a lunatic asylum.
Quite right. If they can’t put reality ahead of the supernatural, they really should question whether they should be doing that job. The job of MP is a job based in the real world with a huge responsibility to real living human beings, not the long dead or never existed son of an imaginary god.
they wont resign -makes me vomit when they issue threats as such -go then
Its too late – decision is clear. Lets see, what will be next, especially in the House of Lords after rebellion of some Bishops and Vicars in the Church in England.
Religion has absolutely NO place in politics. There should be a ban on any man or woman in Parliament using religion to influence the outcome of any legislation. They should be automatically booted out. Religion is a personal matter and should be kept within the confines of one’s home or in a place of worship, not in the public arena and certainly not in government. Another reason to boot state religion out altogether.
Here’s a good argument to use. I saw it in a thread at The Independent.
You’re religious and straight and you’re getting married at St. Pat’s at 2.30, so why are you pissing all over the wedding scheduled for 4.30? Shouldn’t you be focussing on the joy and love of your own wedding? Why are you so fixated on the fact that the couple getting married at 4.30 are of the same sex?
The reason can only be that your wedding isn’t actually about your love for each other: it’s about you proving to the world that you’re “OK”, that you’re “normal”, that you’re straight. But your wedding ought to be about you and your partner focussing on your love and your life-long commitment to each other.
(Copy and paste it round, folks.)
Good, let them resign and replace them with people who support us. They should go join UKIP or the BNP where they will be far happier I’m sure.
A serious national discussion should begin to bring about the end of state religion. Maybe that will dissuade some religious nutters from entering politics.
Parliamentary whipping in any scenario is deplorable and barbaric in a supposedly modern and free society.
MPs should always be given a free vote on all matters:- that is what we vote them in to do – not to be bullied into submission by their party henchmen.
The voters do not normally vote for their individual MPs, they vote for the party that MP represents and the principles that party stands for. Without the whip we may as well abolish Parliament altogether and decide everything by national referendum.
Let them resign. Good riddance.
Who needs apartheid supporters in this day and age. Tell them to get lost.
It’s disgusting that not one political party represented in Westminster or Holyrood is whipping their MPs/MSPs to vote for marriage equality, although it’s good to know there are a few individual MPs prepared to fight our corner. Gay equality is clearly not considered to be a basic human right by our political leaders.
It’s because of Labour MPs that we didn’t get equal marriage, equal age of consent and other equality issues decades ago . . .
nothing changes there I see.
Harriet Harman ! -hey wait a minute , that’s the woman who campaigned to have no age of consent in this country when she was an officer in the National Council for Civil Liberties(now called Liberty) .She also defended members of the ‘Gay Liberation’ off-shoots ,Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) and Paedophile Action for Liberation (PAL) who were affiliated with NCCL when she and Patricia Hewitt were running the ship.She was in favour of child porn and did not want any “damaging and absurd prosecutions” or “increase censorship”.
Why is this hideous woman still in politics ? Now she wants to distort the meaning of marriage so the state can offer bogus ceremonies to homosexuals ….
Harriet Harman has a long history of defending ‘gay liberation’ and censorship.
Thanks for the link!
So, Harriet Harman was once a vocal advocate for decriminalising child pornography and legalising consensual sex between adults and children when she was spokeswoman for Liberty?
What kind of a hypocrite does that make her for her recent speech decrying children’s eposure to online porn?
You couldn’t make it up.
What a truly mentally sick world we live in.
The comments on here are an absolute disgrace.
“nasty bigots” just about sums up all the commentators on here.
so much of the bally hoo about the gay weddings is the right for those religious people to get married in their place of worship.Yet the comments about religion and those of religious faith are just plain barking
There are anti-gay forces across the political spectrum, and the root cause is the same: authoritarian religionism, the curse of humanity.
I felt very concerned reading some of the posts about the effect the anti-gay campaigners are having on some people’s self-esteem. Our feelings of self-worth and our self-respect should not be dependent on what ignorant people, brainwashed by primitive religion, say or think about us.
We need to affirm our value. We are great people, and just look at what we have achieved over the past 30 years, together with our wonderful heterosexual allies. The majority of people are enlightened and very supportive. And our self-esteem must not suffer because some pathetic ignorant bigots put us down. We must treat their views with the contempt they deserve, and treat ourselves with the love and kindness we deserve.
Let’s show them how we are going to continue to fight to crush homophobia and fundamentalist religion!
The lemmings are running for the cliffs. Let them.
At this rate, i doubt we will even get equal civil marraige. So much for our progressing britain. Why bother slaving into taxes , when we are at the bottom of the s**t heap in this unevolved country.