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Tory, Labour and cross-bench Peers and MPs say Government is ignoring public ‘opposition’ to equal marriage

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  1. There are 60 of them now?
    Funny, last week they were congratulating themselves for having over 110 politicians signing up.

    1. Their reasons also change by the day. They have only just started rabbiting on about election manifesto’s. Nobody mentioned that before last week.

      Their main rant has been the polygamy one up till now but that seemed to just have the effect of ridiculing them.

      They are now banking on people not having a clue what was in the parties manifestos.

  2. So no Lib Dem signatories? Some good news for the party at last.

  3. ““The consultation has ignored the views of 500,000 British residents in favour of anonymous submissions from anyone anywhere in the world.”

    Haha I don’t know what’s more shocking, The hypocrisy or the sheer stupidity. That the C4M petition was open to exactly the same level of abuse isn’t new information. What on Earth are they thinking?

  4. That poor couple in the picture look actually terrified they’ll be forcibly divorced if gays can get married.

    1. They’ll have some explaining to do when their gay child confronts them with it – I hope. Whoever they are I hope they live to regret it. We can get married but YOU can’t. So much for sharing your love and happiness.

  5. Out of 1,350 peers and MPs they could only find 60? Good luck with that!

    1. billywingargtenson 17 Dec 2012, 3:27am

      the bad people hold up a mirror in the mirror. Every try that – you see a succession of smaller and smaller mirrors all showing the same thing – themselves.

      OF course these people also give money to the church, proving once again that “a fool and their money will soon be parted.

  6. Here’s a thought.

    What do you think about the possibility of a pro-LGBT alliance of independent politically conservative candidates to stand against those Conservative Party candidates with the worst record of anti-LGBT voting in 2015? Similar to the way UKIP stand against pro-EU candidates.

    I think that plenty of people who want to vote Conservative but not for an anti-gay candidate might welcome this.

    There could be lost deposits, and at £500 a time it could be expensive.

    But if only two or three anti-gay Tories were targeted: and money and energy were put into fielding strong candidates, publicity and leafleting?

    Do you think that could get off the ground? So many people are sick of these bigots, mainstream modern Conservatives probably most of all.

    1. I don’t want to get married! I don’t want to adopt kids! I respect those that do, but marriage and children is what straights do.

      1. no, marriage and children is what people who want marriage and children do.

        if YOU don’t want to get married, or have children, that’s your decision (with that attitude, probably the RIGHT decision, too).

        That doesn’t mean that you have to stand in the way of those who want “equality”.
        Ever heard of that word?

        1. billywingargtenson 17 Dec 2012, 4:06am

          to them its equality of opportunity to demonzie and yes dehumanize gay people.

      2. Surely the important issue is having the choice?. There is a difference between choosing to sit at the back of the bus and being forced to.

      3. de Villiers 17 Dec 2012, 8:15am

        I have adopted a boy with my partner and neither of us is straight.

      4. Jock S. Trap 17 Dec 2012, 10:20am

        “but marriage and children is what straights do.”

        Er, I could use many words to reply to this but I will use just one….


    2. billywingargtenson 17 Dec 2012, 3:30am

      We’ve actually ahd a lot of that in the USA. Republicans who supported marriage equality. It seems to fit with their idea of getting the govt out of telling people how to live and supporting freedom.

      Some of the repubs are utterly nutter, but some of them are still not poisoned in the head. In NH the hate groups tried to overturn Marriage equalty, they had enough votes to even overide the governors veto

      Half the repubs voted for equality, final vote was about 210 to 110 to keep it

      But be carefull – remember that a camelion can change its colors

  7. billywingargtenson 17 Dec 2012, 3:22am

    Teh catholic church claims to support life and opposes marriage equality

    while its german pope hides the endless molestation of children and in 2009 UNexcommunicates a holocaust revisionist

    RATZInger prob intends to promote Williamson to the position of chief Inquisitor

  8. billywingargtenson 17 Dec 2012, 3:24am

    IN the old computer industry we had an expression – lies, damn lies, and benchmarks

    That last part should now be
    “and anti gay extremists”

  9. billywingargtenson 17 Dec 2012, 4:03am

    RE-defingn amrriage BS

    In the USA many times – blacks allowed to marry in 1867, Inter-racial couples finally in all states in 1967.

    In some states eg MD Jews, Quakers couldnt marry because only a “christian minister” could do a marriage ceremony.

    We’ve EXPANDED MARRIAGE many times

  10. The C4EM website has around 100 MPs opposed to SSM, does that mean that they’ve lost a few? Down from 100 to less than 60?????

  11. First it was over a hundred, then it dropped to 60, and this morning it’s down to 35. Oh dear. they’re dropping like flies.

  12. The group includes 35 Conservative MP’s- so that means it includes about 25 Peers from the House of Lords.

    I’m not worried about the MP’s – they will be easily outnumbered in the HOUSE OF COMMONS – but what about the House of Lords? This bill has to survive the vote in the House of Lords to pass into law. Are there enough “yes” votes to get it through?

    1. Yes! Don’t worry about the lords they are much more progressive than you might think (concidering the average age is about 90!)

  13. How many of these call themselves catholics? Well they need to stop the sin of lying!!

  14. “The Government says that 53 per cent of those who responded to the consultation said they supported making same-sex marriage equal.”

    I didn’t realise the consultation was actually a referendum, or I would have voted.

    1. You should have, anyway.

      1. Should have what? Voted? Or do you mean the consultation? How do you know I wasn’t involved in the consultation smart ar*se.

  15. The BBC is, has (of course) published this trip with only the C4M’s side of the story. It is currently listed in 4th place on the front page of BBC News’ web site, and the wording it is its ‘this is a serious political issue’ style.


    And the pure arrogance of Colin Hart and his cronies. That their one-sided, hateful-worded, independent, one sentence private hate petition (proven beyond all doubt to have been signed my schoolkids and American hate groups) *must* be accorded more respect than properly-completed consultation submissions…

    Jesus, these people need a slap!

    And, if I ever meet Hart, he might just get it.

    1. tripe* (tho the letter is so hallucinogenic and paranoid, maybe ‘trip’ also works!

    2. Jock S. Trap 17 Dec 2012, 10:39am

      Indeed and yet the BBC is Supposed to be impartial!!

      1. Jock S. Trap 17 Dec 2012, 10:44am

        Even their Q&A section on marriage Equality is negative. Plus all the related stories are also negative….

        Hardly impartial and I have to ask If the BBC is clearly Against marriage equality then 1) do the LGBT community not also contribute to the TV licence and 2) Why do we when clearly the BBC doesn’t wish to speak for us?

        Prehaps the best the BBC should be doing is look up the word ‘Impartial’ and see what it actually means!!

      2. Robert in S. Kensington 17 Dec 2012, 12:44pm


      3. The BBC keep sinking in my estimation. I don’t think they’re great on diversity, they are terrible about background checking their ‘opposing’ views to “balance” their pieces (remember that Stephen Green guy from Christian Voice?) and now these tripe (thanks Sasha!).

        I used to think very highly of them. Not any more.

  16. Nobody objected to redefining marriage when the law decided it would be so much easier to get divorced.

    All those divorced people, millions of them breaking their marriage vows. “Till death do us part”

    They are just destroying the whole concept of marriage and family. They’ll be eating their children next mark my words.

    1. Funny how no-one ever mentions all the heterosexual ‘re-defining’ that’s gone before, isn’t it? But then, as we’ve learned over and over, god-botherers tend to be among the worst hypocrites out there. They are extremely selective in the use of the bile simply to justify their own bigotry. Thank god (irony intended) the world is getting wise to these brain-washed, irrational tosspots and, as the latest UK census shows, religion is becoming a minority – nay – micro-participant hobby. You can only hope they will all hand-wring themselves into oblivion. Sooner the better.

  17. Those opposed to marriage equality, namely C4M and their friends are totally prepared to repeatedly lie and to distort the facts in order to block equality.
    Misrepresentation and deliberate inaccuracy is their Modus Operandi.
    The fact is they have no rational argument to back up their opposition to same sex marriage.
    They figure if they keep telling lies repeatedly some people will believe those lies, they demonstrably play dirty and are totally lacking in honest principles.

  18. It’s satisfying how insignificant and dreary homophobic bigotry looks when all boxed up and tied with a yellow ribbon as in the photograph accompanying this article.
    Just about the size of a domestic freezer cabinet I’d say.

  19. GingerlyColors 17 Dec 2012, 9:36am

    I won’t be surprised if there are some Labour MP’s who are opposed to marriage equality. After all we did have a Green Party counciller from Brighton of all places who was against the idea.

  20. Andrew Hawkins-Kennedy 17 Dec 2012, 9:56am

    If the bigots wanted their voice to be heard, why didn’t they take part in the publ;ic consultation instead of having a silly petition? The official consultation was in favour. Some people need to grow up and get real.

  21. That There Other David 17 Dec 2012, 10:11am

    Have you noticed that the anti-equality crowd always talk in % terms when describing those that will benefit from the law change, such as Peter Hitchens “0.2%” on Question Time last week, but only ever mention absolute numbers when discussing the opposition?

    500,000 people in opposition may seem like a huge number, but it’s only 0.78% of the UK population.

    Which means 99.22% of the UK population have not registered any opposition to expanding marriage to encompass everyone.

    Sounds like next to nobody is opposed doesn’t it?

  22. Mumbo Jumbo 17 Dec 2012, 10:12am

    Now we have the names we can start to investigate them for any hypocrisy.

    Let the games begin.

  23. Jock S. Trap 17 Dec 2012, 10:12am

    Funny because I thought it was those people like the 60 here who are ignoring the Majority of the public in FAVOUR!!!

    Makes me laugh, a minority oppose and they US to listen and act according to them. How exactly does democracy fit in with that?

    Fact is the government have listened. The consultation showed the Majority in favour NOT opposed. That’s despite the Churches telling their people to go against marriage equality on superstition and false propaganda.

    Why do They refuse to ignore the Majority? Ignorance that’s why!!

    1. Jock S. Trap 17 Dec 2012, 10:13am

      Sorry meant they expect US to listen and…

  24. And they should ignore it since it is a tedious blend of “gays are icky” and “sky daddy doesn’t like it” – In other words, the mental incontinence of babbling imbeciles.

  25. So what if there is “public” opposition to marriage equality? I dare say there was public opposition to race equality legislation and giving women the vote. People’s rights are not something given or revoked at the whim of public opinion. People’s lives are at stake – it is not the X Factor. Polls suggest that most people are actually in favour of marriage equality. Even if they weren’t, the rights of a minority cannot be subjected to the approval of the majority. Civilised societies protect all of their members, not just those that belong to the biggest gang.

    1. That There Other David 17 Dec 2012, 11:17am

      Indeed. There are no tax breaks coming my way for being gay. Therefore I demand equal treatment under the law, and I demand Parliament does its job by ensuring that occurs.

      This is not rocket science.

    2. Well said. This is precisely why we have international, supra national and domestic human rights enactments.

  26. Womandrogyne 17 Dec 2012, 11:42am

    “overwhelming public response” from well under 2% of the adult voting public. Yawn…

  27. Robert in S. Kensington 17 Dec 2012, 12:51pm

    The people redefining marriage nowadays aren’t gays but the likes of bigoted adulterers such as Nadine Dorries, Bob Blackman, Sir Roger Gale, ALL TORIES. There must be a way to make a big noise about this throughout the equal marriage debate. Expose these vile, sociopathic liars as well as their bigoted hypocrisy. There are many of them who are church goers making them even more hypocritical than they appear. If you’re straight and usually a Tory in the UK, marriage for some is between one man, one woman and a bit on the side. So much for the sanctity of marriage nonsense. Adultery seems to be a perfectly acceptable addendum to hetero marriage nowadays. Is that one of the benefits they don’t want us to have I wonder?

    1. Heterosexuals have done a better job than anyone to ‘re-define’ marriage and ‘destroy the sanctity’ of it. They are hypocrites of the worst kind. Why are these people so selective in their use of the bible? I think you’ll find adultery, divorce, etc attracts similar condemnation to matters homosexual. These people are simply small-minded, bigoted homophobes.

  28. Last gasps.

  29. Oh just shut up.

    You’ve lost the argument. The world is not going to end if we’re allowed to marry.

    So, just shut up now. Find something worthwhile to oppose. Like poverty, perhaps.

  30. Whatever reasons these imbeciles give for opposing same-sex marriage, they are simply homophobic. End of story. They can bleat all they want about ‘tradition’ but this is simply an issue of opposition to homosexuality. I hope all pro-equality citizens among the voting public will make a note of these rebels and register their disatisfaction at the next election.

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