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UK: Home Office threatens to ban Ugandan politicians from entering Britain over anti-gay law

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  1. It is quite simple, don’t threaten, do it without any further delay!

  2. We should be glad that steps are being taken, of course, but the cesspit that is Uganda is unlikely to see any positive change no matter what happens. They’d rather take a nuke than give the people their rights…

    1. Yes and less than 60 years ago in Britain that we had a massive witch-hunt against gay people in this country, we’re talking only two generations ago. Before we call the rest of the world “backward” I think we should remember that our liberal attitude towards gay people is extremely recent. Oh and by the way, Uganda is a “cesspit” that we helped to create.

      1. Don’t know why this has been marked down?
        It may not be very positive but it’s certainly true

      2. Uganda is planning to legalise the death penalty for being gay.

        That is FAR more backward than anything Britain has done – even in the dark homophobic days of the 1950’s.

  3. That There Other David 12 Dec 2012, 12:41pm

    There should be no “may” about it. If this bill is passed the ban should apply to all Ugandan politicians who voted for it with immediate effect. We should also ensure that other EU states enact similar measures.

    1. That There Other David 12 Dec 2012, 12:42pm

      Oh, and Switzerland too. Stop them from accessing the strong boxes and bank accounts they’ve squirrelled away the wealth of their country into.

      Ban also needs to apply to family members of politicians, for obvious reasons.

  4. Good! And let’s extend this to those countries to which we pump in millions of pounds in aid. The single, most effective way to change hearts and minds is to hit ’em where it hurts: in the pocket.

    1. Yes and how is taking aid away from them going to help tackle the homophobia there? Call me a wishy-washy bleeding heart liberal but the existing laws against homosexuality were put there by the British. No I’m not saying we should feel guilty for what our forebears did but before we get all self-righteous it’s good to have some
      perspective on the issue.

      1. Jock S. Trap 12 Dec 2012, 4:39pm

        I think you’ll find Uganda and it’s government will tell You who runs their country and it isn’t the likes of the UK. The UK has progressed and Canada even more so. So I don’t see your argument being valid at all.

        Blaming the British is basically just making excuses for cruel vile current regimes who wish to murder innocent people.

        1. PantoHorse 12 Dec 2012, 5:40pm

          Chris is right, some of their attitudes are a carry-over from their colonial past, and some of them are fresh out of the evangelical right in the US.

          I know what they say, about running Uganda for Ugandans, free of evil westernisations, but it’s simply not true to say there aren’t other influences in play.

          1. Rubbish.

            Uganda is planning to remove the colonial era laws and replace it with the death penalty.

            The Ugandan government and their supporters are savage, murderous scum.

  5. Seems a good idea but what exactly will that achieve? Will they even care if they can’t enter Britain, is it that big a loss to them. I’m just asking the question as I’m not sure if this action can have any real results?

  6. “I am pleased the Home Office are prepared to take tough action against foreign politicians who oppress minorities and deny their citizens basic human rights. This is law is wrong, and we must do everything possible to stop its implementation.”

    Denying citizens their basic human rights? So what is going to happen to the anti gay marriage UK politicians then? It is a bit of a double standard.
    Ugandans following their conscience and our backbenchers following theirs. Both with their religion on their side.

    1. You make an excellent point. The hypocricy in this country is breathtaking! We lecture the world about democracy but, because church and state are so intertwined, we allow 40 unelected bishops to sit in the House of Lords who can block the will of the commons. Ludicrous.

      1. There are only 26, and lets hope that soon this will be reduced to zero.

      2. Robert in S. Kensington 12 Dec 2012, 2:15pm

        There are now only 26 bishops in the HoL. Would that there were none!

      3. 26 out of 775 (3.35%) – though still 26 too many.

        1. Actually there are 775 too many ‘lords’ in the present House of ‘Lords’.

          Why are British people denied the right to vote for the members of the upper house?

    2. But I don’t think the distinction between a Civil Partnership and marriage really falls into the category of a basic human right. Nor are anti-equal-marriage activists here advocating imprisonment or death for gay people in the UK.

      1. Not quite sure why I’ve been marked down for the above comment. I too would prefer that there isn’t the present pointless distinction between CPs and opposite-sex marriage but, especially by comparison to Uganda, we’re not really arguing about basic human rights in the UK any more, are we?

        1. I agree with you. Although it is undeniably a human right to be entitled to the same treatment as everybody else regardless of sex, race, sexuality etc. Therefore equal marriage is a human right.

          But it is right that there is a difference between being quite bigoted, and actually wanting gays to die. It’s like the difference between Cheryl Cole and the KKK.

    3. David Myers 13 Dec 2012, 6:42am

      Ugandans “following their conscience” (to put gay people to death)? You don’t seem to be seeing the forest for the trees! A double standard would be criticizing Ugandans for putting their gay/lesbian citizens to death while at the same time passing the same law in England. Get some perspective!

  7. Jock S. Trap 12 Dec 2012, 2:58pm

    It’s a step because they really shouldn’t be allowed here in the UK with such hateful views. They clearly want to promote murder/genocide but more needs to be done to show Uganda their blatant discrimination is not acceptable.

    Banning them is one step, financing them another.

    They clearly need to know what discrimination means which is shocking because I’m of the view they should already know!

  8. What is happening in Uganda is shocking and appalling but I do get annoyed by now self-righteous we are on this issue. If you look at the status of gay rights in the world sadly most of the world is far from gay-friendly, we seem to forget how privileged we are being gay in Europe, which is by far the most tolerant continent in the world for us. But even in Britain acceptance of homosexuality is an extremely recent thing, even in the 1950s and 60s gay people were the victims of state-sponsored witch-hunts here. The main cause of the intense homophobia in Africa seems to be Christianity, which incidentally, was introduced by European missionaries. How do we expect these poverty-stricken countries to be on par with us when we have only just began treating gay people as human beings? The problem here seems to be Christianity not the African cultures.

    1. Jock S. Trap 12 Dec 2012, 4:42pm

      I think if you could come into the 21st Century you’ll find they make their own discriminating laws and it’s not helped by the extreme American Evangelists!!

      1. but history has shown that homosexuality was prevelent in African cultures and either ignored as normal or in some instances placed on a pedastal as a something spiritual…it WAS european religion and in a lot of cases colonialism that taught them these practices were “sinful” and forced a new thinking by way of laws!!!

        1. David Myers 13 Dec 2012, 6:49am

          But is now the African nation of Uganda and its politicians (with significant support and urging from American fundamentalist fascist homophobes) are prepared to pass this law. Granted, at one time homosexuality wasn’t a big thing in much of Africa before colonialization, but this is now and regardless of with what help they received from past colonialists or present day christian fundamentalist fascists it is the Uganda parliament that is prepared to take this step and who must be stopped.

  9. Garry Cassell 12 Dec 2012, 3:30pm

    Every country should ban politicans from Uganda…and BAN all aid to it as well…Stop any form of trade until these kinds of laws are abolished…

  10. Janet Lameck 12 Dec 2012, 4:56pm

    GOOD, ALL contries should follow suit as well as cut OFF all trade with them as well.

  11. Stop threatening them. Take some action.

    An immediate suspension of all aid and trade to Uganda and a permanent ban on Ugandan politicians entering Britain until homosexuality is decriminalised in that country is required.

  12. There’s nothing Britain can do about the situations in Russia; Saudi Arabia and Iran concerning the gay community as those countries are wealthy and self-sufficient.

    Uganda is a beggar though – whining for aid while legalising genocide,

    All aid and trade should stop.

  13. WantsToKnow 12 Dec 2012, 6:17pm

    This is a great idea! If there is no price to pay for one’s bigotry, then there is no incentive to cease.

  14. And Saudi Arabian politicians with their money could enter the UK? And Iranian politicians?
    In Saudi Arabia and Iran there is alreay the death penalty but I suppose it is most simple to threat the ‘powerful’ Uganda!
    Shame on the UK showing courage only with the weaks!

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