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Mexico: Supreme Court casts-out ban on same-sex marriage

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  1. As a Mexican, I’m proud to see that the Supreme Court has ruled in favour of gay couples on the basis of no discrimination against anyone.

  2. Gay Activist Paul Mitchell 6 Dec 2012, 12:43am

    The US, Mexico, Brazil, Columbia, France, New Zealand, United Kingdom, Uruguay and Luxembourg are all moving forward towards civil marriage equality for all – here in Australia we have a female former communist redhead leftist athiest who is unmarried and still OPPOSES civil marriage equality here in my own country called Australia. The people of Australia about 66% WANT civil marriage equality for all, but she is getting in the way.

    My own country Australia is an embarrassment and starting to look like Texas, Alabama and/or Mississippi in the United States! Or the 52nd state of the United States. because the 51st state is Porto Rico now through a referendum vote they just had on the November 6 US Election!

    1. Don’t forget Taiwan, Vietnam and Nepal too.

    2. GingerlyColors 6 Dec 2012, 7:24am

      They probably going to run out of space for stars on the Stars and Stripes soon!

    3. Puerto Rico is unlikely to become a state anytime soon. Republicans are strongly opposed to statehood for PR and DC as they would swing power more comfortably into Democrat hands as they are both left-leaning territories. Plus, lets be honest. It would mean a state with a mostly spanish-speaking population who are brown skinned. There are too many racists lefts in congress and all of the old white men in power are already afraid of any sort of national identity shifting towards Latino voters.

      1. Mommie Dammit 6 Dec 2012, 4:24pm

        Puerto Rico’s referendum was a “non-binding” referendum, meaning that their Territorial Governor and local government isn’t forced to do anything about it. This is something that happens periodically, and this isn’t the first time they’ve passed such a resolution. Personally I wish they could get this act together and gain statehood, but…

        Puerto Rico stands about a 30% chance of making statehood, as it is highly unlikely that the referendum in the Senate would survive the Rethuglican obstructionism in committee. Should it make it to the floor of the Senate it would require a 2/3 majority to pass the statehood bill. That will never happen because the Rethuglicans and the Blue-Dog (a.k.a. traitor) Democrats will vote as a block against it.

        Washington D.C., on the other hand is forbidden by the Constitution from gaining statehood. It would require a 2/3 majority of BOTH houses of Congress and ratification by 2/3 of the 50 States to change that. Chance of that happening is zero.

  3. Gay Activist Paul Mitchell 6 Dec 2012, 12:46am

    The Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard is being controlled by the Australian Christian Lobby or ACL who are getting support from just 4% of Australia!

    The ACL are telling Julia Gillard to “jump” and she responds by saying “how high?”

    1. Unfortunately the Australian Unions are too controlled by immigrants from the two most homophobic countries in Europe – Italy and Greece.

      Interesting to note that Italy and Greece are also the two most corrupt countries in Europe. So much for the moral guidance inherent in these civilizations.

      1. Homophobia or homo hysteria and corruption seem to go together in many countries?

  4. Gay Activist Paul Mitchell 6 Dec 2012, 12:50am

    It really is just disgraceful that the US Supreme Court is delaying several important equality cases on domestic partnerships in Arizona, Proposition 8 in California and the federal law called DOMA!

    Justice Delayed is Justice Denied!

  5. Gay Activist Paul Mitchell 6 Dec 2012, 12:59am

    My home country called Australia should have a civil marriage equality referendum since the Parliament voted several bills down that would have made SSM legal, but the politicians know it will pass by 55% (I always use the “margin of error” because about 66% of Australians support marriage equality, so I take 10% off the figure) – so politicians will not support that as well!

    The High Court of Australia might be a second option – but what section under our Australian Constitution will the Marriage Amendment Act 2004 (the law that banned same sex marriage in Australia by John Howard) be declared unconstitutional?

    Any other options? Please let me know…

    1. Pavlos Prince of Greece 6 Dec 2012, 2:51am

      Why You are so unhappy with same-sex marriage on the states level at first? I think, its wonderful and very interesting option: to see, which states or provinces make gay marriage legal one after another (its like presidential election night in the US), and the federal law is like final coronation of this. Australia is very big, complex country – as US, Canada or Mexico too. In this countries gay marriage has/will became legal exactly on this way (for example, Ontario 2001, Quebec and British Colombia 2003, federal law for all Canada 2005, after similar laws in 6 provinces), so must be also in Australia, no? Gay marriage in South West Wales and ATC 2013, in Tasmania and Victoria until 2015, before final decision in Canberra until 2020 – yes, I know, its not perfect scenario, but good enough too! Please, remember: every political or social idea has lose, if/when it lost connection with reality. Gay rights movement is indeed no more than simple idea of equality too…

      1. jamestoronto 6 Dec 2012, 4:28am

        Just a couple of minor corrections. Equal marriage became law in Québec in 2004 and by the time the federal law was passed 8 (not 6) of the 10 provinces had equal marriage as well as 1 of the 3 territories. But I do agree with you that in federal states, a one at a time approach has seemed to work successfully so far. Maybe not as dramatic as the entire country at once but still effective.

        1. Jon "maddog" Hall 6 Dec 2012, 4:29pm

          Part of the issue is whether an existing partnership is recognized in another state, whether or not that state actually performs the marriage. If you marry in one state, then transfer to another, all the rights that you have may disappear. It is bad enough that this happens across countries….but across states?

          1. Pavlos Prince of Greece 6 Dec 2012, 5:14pm

            Yes, its a problem, I agree. But same-sex marriage on the states level is good enough – as a temporary solution. Anyway, better than civil union law on the federal level. Gay marriage on the states level is all ways a inspiration make this process complete.

      2. Gay Activist Paul Mitchell 7 Dec 2012, 4:34am

        It is true that at a state or territory individual level same sex marriage is possible because of a loophole in the 2004 laws, but then again the members in the independent Conservative upper house of Tasmania also raised concerns that if they did pass the law in Tasmania, the High Court might strick-down the law as being unconstitutional!

        Also what happens say NSW allows same sex marriage and then you go up the goat-track ridden, under-funded and unfixed Pacific Highway and go and head into Queensland – what happens to your same sex marriage, you suddenly get divorced!?

  6. Pavlos Prince of Greece 6 Dec 2012, 3:02am

    How sad, that only 400 same-sex couples has wed in Mexico City since March 2010. This number is incredible small! Gay people can marry there from all the Mexico, and this marriage have legal recognition in all 31 states – Mexico have his own ‘Doma’ not. Anyway, gay marriage is legal in the state of Roo Quintana (peninsula of Yucatan) since June 2012 too, and is debating at the moment in the state of Coahilha (north, on the border with Texas).

    1. that was 400 in the first six months not in over two years

      1. Pavlos Prince of Greece 6 Dec 2012, 1:31pm

        Yes, sorry, You are absolutely right! Anyway, only more than 1000 same-sex marriages in Mexico City until September 2011, with 6% of them – between foreign citizens. Its very very small number in country with 114 mln. people. Fact. That because homosexuality still has very strong social stigma in this conservative Catholic country, I suspect,- and in the case of public referendum gay marriage will be lose by very high margin, even in Mexico City. Same-sex marriage in Mexico (and in the all Latin America) still is issue of leftist political elite and liberal judges, without big public support. In US public opinion is much more important in the politics – that because we have at the moment ‘strange’ difference between two countries by this issue: its more not about social acceptance of gay people (of course US are much more liberal than Mexico or South America in general, I please!), but about different political system and traditions of the political life.

    2. The numbers are irrelevant. What is important is the fact that those who wish to can. That is what equality for minorities is about.

  7. GingerlyColors 6 Dec 2012, 7:19am

    If all the states of Mexico adopt this ruling then Mexico with it’s 114,000,000 people will become the most populous country to enjoy marriage equality. With Argentina down south and Canada up north and hopefully soon, Mexico in the middle, the march towards marriage equality in the Americas will become unstoppable and may even shame the English speaking enclaves of Guyana and Belize to decriminalize homosexuality.

  8. This is great news. Isn’t Mexico a predominantly Catholic country?

    If so, that is another two fingers up to Rome with Mexico saying “we will not listen to your hatred any longer, our people deserve love and respect, irrespective of their sexuality”

    1. The Vatican has done some terrible things in South America and the people have not forgotten.

      Ratzinger and his band of merry ignorant’s are running the Catholic Church so far into the ground so quickly – its wonderful. Long live the Pope.

      It will take more that a twitter account to turn things around.

  9. Robert in S. Kensington 6 Dec 2012, 12:25pm

    Well done, Mexico, a catholic country. You put the UK to shame especially the Tory bigots in opposition.

  10. Robert in S. Kensington 6 Dec 2012, 2:32pm

    Also, Uruguay votes for equal marriage on December 11. The entire Latin American continent will probably be an equal marriage zone before too long. What a blow for the roman cult.

    1. Pavlos Prince of Greece 6 Dec 2012, 3:29pm

      Well, this is vote in Lower House. The Senate will vote on this just in autumn 2013, it means same-sex marriage law became a reality in Uruguay before end of next year.

  11. Just goes to show you that countries we’d regard as far more religious than ours, Portugal, Spain or countries in Central & South America, seem to be OK with gay marriage. Isn’t it really more a case of Britain having more religious bigots? Nasty people in general, who consider themselves to be ‘holier than thou’, who are among the lowest of the low and attack minorities for no other reason than how they were born, only to say, ‘but I’m religious, therefore I am a god person’. No-one needs a book of fiction and an imaginary sky fairy be a good person, anyone can be a good person. Religion, especially in the UK and the US, is used as a cover to hate and attack innocent people for no good reason at all. Personally I’d ban all religions in Britain as hate organisations, until they can learn how to be human.beings.

    1. Man did you ever hit the nail on the head of your description of these holier than thou types. I have lived in Texas my entire life and there are so many people here that fall in that category. It breaks my heart that so many can be so blind to the injustices they put upon others because they believe themselves to be so religious. A shame indeed.

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 6 Dec 2012, 5:08pm

      I wouldn’t say it’s a case of the UK having more religious bigots. Spain went through a horrendous backlash from the roman cult, far worse than we’re seeing in France or even the UK for that matter. In the UK and U.S., opposition is a lot better organised, that’s why we’re hearing a lot more hatred coming from them but it doesn’t mean we have more bigots than anywhere else. Don’t forget, Denmark, the first country to introduce legal unions for gay couples in 1989 saw its first equal marriage legislation defeated because of religious opposition but passed on the second introduction in parliament.Plus, the majority of countries where equal marriage is legal do not have state religion.

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