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Tory councillor warns David Cameron introducing same-sex marriage will displease God

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  1. OH DEAR

    1. billywingartenson 4 Dec 2012, 4:36am

      I just sent his god a present but it may not get there – I should have used the flush handle three times instead of once.

  2. The man should immediately be rushed to a lunatic asylum and subjected to ECT. Such treatment would be little different to the so-called conversion therapy for gays. Perhaps, unlike the latter, it might work and the man might be cured of his imbecile religiosity.

    1. The Infamous Culex 3 Dec 2012, 8:22pm

      Electro-Convulsive “Therapy” is not appropriate for people who appear to have schizophrenia or schitzoid symptoms such as hearing voices.

      It might be wise to confine him to a padded room, though.

      1. My aunt who heard voices was treated by means of ECT and this seemed to have cured the problem.

  3. Really? Should we stone women who are not virgins on their wedding day? Should we will disobedient children? Should we dash the infant offspring of our enemies against the rocks? Should we let children who use mean names be mauled by bears…?

    And so on and so on and so on. Since the ridiculous absurd entity that he invokes permits all of those things.

    How about making divorce illegal. No?

    “You can safely assume that you’ve created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.” – Anne Lamott

    He doesn’t like gay people and is hiding his prejudice behind the assumed wishes of some anachronistic hobgoblin, created by ancient savage middle eastern tribesmen, to mandate their slaughter of neighbouring tribes. And nothing more.

    Meaningless babble from a god-boggled imbecile. Or bigotry expressed behind a cloak of asinine theocratic drivel.

    Either way, irrelevant.

    1. Jerry Joe 3 Dec 2012, 4:37pm

      Dont forget fornification !!! That is the most important one !!!

      1. Oh but fornication is fine. It just has to be the PROPER fornication (ie, anything that whelps more “believers” to grow up in the church and pay into the coffers so the priest classes can have their brocade, lace and other fancy nonsense, while not doing a “job” that is akin to gazing into a crystal ball).

  4. Another old fool!

    If there really was a god then there would be no problems with the world now would there?

  5. Dear backwards councillor

    Fu©k you and Fu©k your bigot God too
    Enclosed is a book on evolution you should read instead of the Christian book of fairy tales about the angry beardy man

    Regards
    David Cameron

    1. AS IF.

      David Cameron is more than willing to give these poisonous old relics a platform.

      I mean Cameron believes our equal civil rights are a ‘conscience’ matter and is allowing a free vote on the issue (that’s if he ever gets round to introducing it.)

      1. Point 1: Even as a conscience matter this has enough support to pass.
        Point 2: David Cameron has the party with the most religious views and opposition, and so it’s amazing he is to legalise gay marriage and it’s also a measure to limit the damage he may take from his party and to stop himself being replaced by a more religious and homophobic conservative leader.
        Point 3: Everything is a conscience matter – yours is different to someone elses

  6. David Cameron deserves loud condemnation for his disgraceful procrastination in introducing equal civil rights legislation.

    These disgusting old bigots like David Silvester have been handed a unprecedented platform to promote their religion-inspired campaign of hatred against the gay community.

    And we’re STILL waiting for draft marriage equality legislation.

  7. Fortunately, God doesn’t rule the country. He hasn’t even got a seat in Parliament.

    1. 26 seats for self-aggrandizing CoE boneheads in the Lords though. So it kind of does.

      1. God =/= CoE.
        Besides, if people had the right to vote for the Lords, those guys wouldn’t be there in such numbers.

  8. What a load of rubbish.

  9. Stephanie 3 Dec 2012, 3:18pm

    Why are my basic human rights a matter of conscious. Really really tired of the hate.

    1. For conscience just read religious bigotry. About the only time they have a free vote in parliament is when the religious loons but their superstitions ahead of their well paid jobs.

  10. Robert in S. Kensington 3 Dec 2012, 3:20pm

    It’s amazing to think that in the 21st century in the UK there are people like that. I can’t imagine David Cameron is going to take his letter that seriously. I mean, really, since when is civil marriage the domain of religion? Why doesn’t someone please counter these idiots and shut them up once and for all.

    Go throw dirt over yourself Silvester, bigoted old fool. Die!

  11. What a tit.

    1. Tit’s have their uses, this old fool does not!

      1. True enough.

  12. Robert in S. Kensington 3 Dec 2012, 3:24pm

    Another bigoted Tory buffoon who is incapable of discerning the difference between religious and civil marriage.

    He’s clearly suffering from religious addiction, a mental illness for many on the extreme right. Bring back labotomies, knock some sense into them.

  13. “My imaginary friend opposes X, therefore your imaginary friend must oppose X, therefore you must oppose X.”

    How does anyone take these people seriously? Their arguments are worse than moon landing conspiracy theorists.

    1. The Infamous Culex 3 Dec 2012, 8:18pm

      What PROOF do you have for the Moon landings?

  14. ‘The power of Christ compels you!’
    ‘The power of Christ COMPELS you!’

    1. Spanner1960 5 Dec 2012, 11:42am

      ‘Your mother sucks cocks in Hell, you faithless slime.’

  15. Personally I hate the term “matter/vote of conscience” – shame on the Conservative Party for giving people a platform to spread their poison legitimately.

  16. Let’s hope that Mr Silvester doesn’t get his hair cut around the sides of his head; this is forbidden in Leviticus 19:27. Let’s also hope that he doesn’t worship at the altar as he clearly has a defect in his sight; such worship is forbidden in Leviticus 21:20 – I could go on….

    1. Cherry-picking, the hallmark of christianity.

      And what could be more convenient than to have a dogmatic document that lets you see whatever you want, endorse whatever you want, hate whoever you want, and say “god” did it…

  17. I’ve found an email address for him if anyone wants to contact him?

    davidmsilvester@tiscali.co.uk

    This is in the public domain as I found it on the Henley Conservatives website

    1. Thanks. Will be writing to the silly old goat.

      1. Just sent this of to him. Decided no worth going the diplomatic route.
        “Mr Silvester,
        I am horrified that a man in your position is driven to spout religious mumbo jumbo as a reason for denying good citizens of this country the right to marry the person they love. You have obviously been brainwashed into your bigotry by your church and I suggest you are in the wrong job. People matter. Your antique superstition is worthless and dangerous.”

        1. Be interesting to see if you get a response!

          1. Will post if I do.

  18. This is yet another example of an individual using the fig-leaf of Christianity to justify his homophobia.

  19. Hmm.

    He has the look of someone about whom it will eventually be reported “…before turning the gun on himself.”

  20. What most people tend to forget is that their is a STATE religion in this country… until that is abolished (like most civilised democracies have done a LONG time ago…), bigots and inquisitors of all creeds will still hold our politicians by the balls, however hard we try to prevent them to…

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 3 Dec 2012, 4:34pm

      Well, even though I strongly support disestablishment of state religion, it still doesn’t stop them from meddling in the political process. Look at France, a very vociferous catholic mob taking to the streets in thousands, mayors refusing to marry gay people because of their religious beliefs. What disestablishment would only do is to remove Anglican clerics from the House of Lords but the bigotry would still be there.’

      Look at American politics today. You can’t even get elected as President unless you declare a religious affiliation. No atheist could ever become elected in the current political climate there and yet, there is separation of church and state.

    2. Tricia Emlyn-Williams 10 Dec 2012, 2:03pm

      Couldn’t agree more. Join the Holy Redundant campaign of the British Humanist Association, and let’s start by getting the bishops out of the House of Lords.

  21. Some people apparently have never heard of separation of church and state and are still living in the 15th century England.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 3 Dec 2012, 4:30pm

      We don’t have that in the UK Felipe. That’s one of the problems we’re having with the religious nutters. They think they can dictate to government what it can and cannot do.

      1. I bet they still would even if we DID have a separation of church and state. They can’t bear not being able to make pronouncements and make out they are above everyone else.

        1. Robert in S. Kensington 3 Dec 2012, 6:50pm

          True, Iris. I’ve said this before. If JC appeared to them in person and told them equal marriage is perfectly fine, they’d still not accept it. The more they rant like this makes the case for disestablishment that much stronger. I’d like to see a national movement take root with a lot of public support. The British public don’t pay much attention to this stupidity and pathetic excuse of a councillor. He’s irrelevant in the scheme of things.

  22. Dispeasing someone’s fictitious God should never be a concern when making a political decission.
    Any more than it is a priority to consult the great divine wolf, Astro, whe making a political decision.
    How you observe your own beliefs and conduct your own life, if your choice, provided you don’t break any law, and accept whatever consequences may follow.

    1. The Infamous Culex 3 Dec 2012, 8:30pm

      Heretic!

      Doest thou not worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

  23. Not as much as you displease god with your unchristian attitude there are plenty of gay men and women who honour god with far more Christian spirit than you obviously do. Small mind small person!

    1. I don’t care for displeasing a fictitious character. Why Should I be worried about my “unchristian attitude” which Christians themselves pick and choose when to apply it.
      Not that the ” christian attitude” is anything to admire, anyway.
      If gay men and women choose to honour a fictitious being that despises them, then they are free to do so.
      However, gay or not. Religious views are not entitled to privileges in society, law or politics.
      Keep your fairy tales at home where they belong.

  24. ha, ha, ha… haaaaaaaaaa, ha, ha, ha, ha… a-ha, a-ha, a-ha, haaaaaaaaaaaaa, ha, ha, ha, ha….

  25. How do such people ever get elected to office? So depressing.

    1. In fairness it is Oxford… what else do you expect to be elected to office?

  26. Bobbleobble 3 Dec 2012, 4:43pm

    The problem with this moron’s rambilings is that there’s nothing in the Bible about gay marriage, however hard you try to read it there is nothing in the BIble that preculdes two guys or two girls from tying the knot.

    What there is, if you choose to interpret it that way, is a possible prohibition on sex between two people of the same gender (and whether idiots like this choose to accept it or not, their views of what the Bible says are interpretations, I don’t care how long he’s spent ‘studying’ the book). Gay sex has been legal in this country for nearly 60 years and we haven’t experienced God’s wrath yet. I’m also not aware of the 10 plagues being visited on the Netherlands. So perhaps Mr Silvester your interpretation is wrong, or maybe your God just doesn’t give a damn.

    I don’t follow your religion but I believe you have every right to follow it. Just don’t force it on me or expect me to live by its tenets.

    1. “I don’t follow your religion but I believe you have every right to follow it. Just don’t force it on me or expect me to live by its tenets.”

      Hear hear!

    2. The Infamous Culex 3 Dec 2012, 8:37pm

      “Gay sex has been legal in this country for nearly 60 years and we haven’t experienced God’s wrath yet.”

      The recent floods are just a bit of bad weather, are they?

      I’d write more, but I’m busy building an Ark.

      1. God tells me the recent floods were because he’s well pissed off at the refusal of the C of E to allow women bishops – that, and the delay over the introduction of equal marriage, of course.

      2. The recent floods are no different to any other floods in the British Isles, except that greedy property developers have put houses on flood plains where they will inevitably be flooded.

        1. That, and some counties/councils have failed in the upkeep of adequate water management.

      3. Bobbleobble 3 Dec 2012, 11:50pm

        Yes the recent floods are as a result of bad weather.

  27. “Tory councillor warns David Cameron introducing same-sex marriage will displease God”

    When I saw the above headline I LAUGHED MYSELF SILLY!

    Is this person an adult? Or is he a child?

    I would be surprised if he’s already drawn up a Christmas wish-list for prezzies from Baby Jesus.

  28. Wow! I see that on this thread we are ALL absolutely in agreement for once! Not a word of disagreement that this man is laughable.

    1. I am in agreement with that, or as Mrs. Slocombe used to say, “I am unanimous in that”

  29. Have just posted to Mr. Silvester the entire contents of this thread (after a judicious tidy-up, including removal of thumbs-up etc), and prefixed the email with the following introduction.

    davidmsilvester@tiscali.co.uk

    Dear Mr. Silvester,

    The following is a cut and paste of the contents of just ONE internet discussion group regarding your recommendations to David Cameron regarding granting equal marriage rights to gay and lesbian people. You will observe that you are universally thought juvenile and laughable.

    Sincerely,
    Edward.

  30. I often wonder whether people like this have actually READ the bible. Just as one example, god sanctions rape and murder and encourages ‘his’ people to rape and kill the people they’ve vanquished. Hardly admirable behaviour, is it? And, of course, in direct contradiction of one of god’s own comandments.

    I wonder whether Mr Silvester actually believes what he says or whether he’s trying to use the bible to justify his own prejudices? I’m not sure which is worse…

    1. I suspect little David Silvester is in desperate need of someone to pat him on the head and tell him he’s a very good little boy and his mummy and Baby Jesus and all the angels love him. :-)

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 3 Dec 2012, 6:47pm

      What they all aren’t aware of is that Jesus Christ, assuming he actually existed, dismissed the old testament and everything in it which would mean that he rejected the infamous verse in Leviticus. Meanwhile, this old fossil clings to it to justify a ban on equal marriage. Religious nutters shouldn’t be allowed to hold public office since they can’t be impartial, irrespective of their personal beliefs.

      1. Most people like this can’t process evidence that contradicts their fervent beliefs, so he probably wouldn’t take it in. I’ve spent fruitless hours debating with fundies on PN and I find it frightening that they seem to block out any suggestion that they might be wrong (talking about the supposed anti-gayness of the bible not the existence of god, that is).

        They see everything through prejudice-tinted lenses.

      2. And they also forget that Adam and Eve apparently shared the same DNA and that the human race began through incest! That and the many revered biblical characters who had more than one wife.

  31. FUUUCCCKKK OOOFFFF

    1. I agree with the sentiment. But the trouble is, this ‘upstanding Christian’ would just write you off as a foul mouthed aberrant. You need to say something a bit more elegant to his sort.

      1. casparthegood 3 Dec 2012, 10:59pm

        how about …PLEASE eff off? is that polite enough do you think?

  32. Know god do you ?

  33. “…What you are not free to do, and what only an Almighty God is free to do, is to control the divine consequences of your proposed action.”

    This guy is threatening not just the Prime Minister. But he is threatening the entire nation and everyone living within it.
    Can somebody PLEASE make that point to him and demand an apology from him?
    And not just him, but everyone like him who does brings up the invisible dictator in the sky.
    People like this do not deserve to take a leading role in a democracy such as ours if they are so offended by it’s direction.

  34. Christopher in Canada 3 Dec 2012, 6:21pm

    ‘Unerrant”? We could start with the conflicting begat-lists in Genesis…

  35. PeterinSydney 3 Dec 2012, 6:30pm

    Just what gives these fuddy duddy Christian fundamentalists the right to pour out their anti-gay venom. God is more likely to be on the side of the downtrodden gay people.

  36. Mumbo Jumbo 3 Dec 2012, 6:33pm

    “What will happen precisely, and whether this time it will be terminal, I cannot say.”

    Christian? Lost the argument? Why not resort to threats?

  37. Are these really the people who we want to run the country? Those who would listen to their imaginary friends over the will of the electorate?

  38. Kerry Hollowell 3 Dec 2012, 7:41pm

    how can these morons hold public office?

    1. The Infamous Culex 3 Dec 2012, 8:52pm

      First, they must be selected as a candidate by a committee of local party morons; as long as they feign sanity tolerably well and utter the appropriate platitudes, that should not be too difficult. After that, the Party will try its utmost to get the moron elected, even if s/he seems to have lost all grasp of reality.

      1. Even the Americans have recently learned that lunatics should not hold office… it is a pity that the people of Oxford can not have the same sense

  39. The Infamous Culex 3 Dec 2012, 8:45pm

    Is there any difference between a “religious person” who claims to have conversations with some sky-fairy and a person afflicted with schizophrenia who has conversations (or arguments) with the voices in their head?

  40. Not a good look for the Tory party…..the frightening thing is that I suspect many of the Tory councillors around my area think the same as him…they certainly look a lot like him…

  41. Poor old Cameron, I really feel sorry for him trying to modrnise a Party where so many of the “grassroots” are like this old guy.

    But I admire him for sticking to his guns so far. Interesting to see how far he gets before they stick the knife into him.

  42. I hope his expenses are in order.

  43. man the bibles ev’ry last one o’ ya!

    sorry to have to break it to you, mr silvester, “those who honour me… [blah blah blah]“, isn’t part of the inerrant word of the holy gawd of israel; but i’m sure they’ll remember to put into the next testiclement.

    je$u$ would cringe.

  44. You’d have thought that the Tory policies of shafting the not so well off at the cost of lining the pockets of the Tory rich would have caused God more concern than same sex marriage!

  45. P|SS OFF, you old twat!

  46. billywingartenson 4 Dec 2012, 4:36am

    I just sent his god a present but it may not get there – I should have used the flush handle twice instead of once.

  47. Stop talking nonsense, Sir, rather go home and be happy in your retirement.

  48. Jock S. Trap 4 Dec 2012, 1:22pm

    Another discriminating dinosaur who needs to crawl back under the rock he dared to appear from.

  49. Let him talk to his invisible friend in the corner if he wants, and read the mad book he believes it has written for him. I just don’t see why he should bother the Prime Minister or anybody else about it.

  50. Robert in S. Kensington 4 Dec 2012, 4:31pm

    Until the Tories purge their party of this ‘cancer’ of bigotry and religious mania, it will never be able to shake off the nasty party stigma. These are the people who give it a bad name. He’ll die soon, but not soon enough.

  51. Spanner1960 5 Dec 2012, 11:39am

    Maybe God should phone Number 10 and tell him so.

    Failing that, write a very strongly worded letter to The Times.

  52. … and here’s me, all these years, thinking god wanted eveyone to love each other. Fancy! He actually wants some people to be treated as second-class citizens. You are entitled to your ‘belief’ Mr. Silvester but thank god (irony intended), being the age you are, you will be able to ask him what he really thought many years before younger, more liberally-minded, kinder citizens. Doooo come back and tell us! Better still, bring god to parliament as a guest speaker and let’s hear it from His own lips …

  53. Don Harrison 7 Dec 2012, 4:38pm

    More scarenongering

  54. Christine 8 Dec 2012, 2:53pm

    Amazing how “God” always speaks so clearly to the #Wingnuts.

  55. Annie Burroughs 20 Feb 2013, 11:16pm

    Good for him, and stop calling it by this ridiculous term “equal marriage”.
    What you mean is a sham because it isn’t equal and it isn’t marriage. You keep repeating the stupid phrase like a mantra – but it’s a lie.

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