Germany was about domination and empire building, whilst using Jews and others as scapegoats. (Your original ‘ethnic cleansing’ one might say.)
Uganda is merely using populist politics, urged on by American evangelicals to deflect everybody’s view from what is really going on: The corruption, the laundering of aid money, and all the other dodgy goings on.
Think about it. Africans really aren’t bothered about a bunch of poofs, they have far bigger things to worry about like where their next meal is coming from. This is all smoke and mirrors and sleight of hand, and people like you are falling for it.
I wish that was true. She is probably one of the wealthiest Ugandans, living on as much aid money as she can get her talons around. She is a filthy bigot, and the closest thing to justice that we can say will happen is that history will remember her for it – the black woman who struggled hard to suppress minorities, to spread hatred and to ruin the lives of the citizens that she had avowed to protect. She must be up there as one of the most hated people alive at the moment.
I really hope that we follow through and cut aid to Uganda – it’s filling Kadaga’s bloody pockets, after all. How many times are we going to ignore the methodical, manipulated persecution of our own species whilst doing nothing to stop it? It’s so frustrating that just for once, we couldn’t have prevented the problem, and that yet again, we’ll be having to cure it once the damage has been started.
Meanwhile in another former but richer colony, capital executions in electric chairs are very popular, and the UK government just looks the other way …
And yet the people of Uganda live in poverty and the nation sticks out its bloody begging bowl.
Scr3w the lot of them. Inevitably there will be some rancid little conflict or otherwise a disaster or crisis and I have no qualms turning my back. If you want the benefits of humanitarianism, act like a bloody human. Treat all men and women with dignity and respect, or collapse into a mire of your own making.
So go ahead Uganda – sink into theocracy, all it will do is make a mandate for those in power to seize more for themselves, and make more ignorant poor people (the one thing religion excels at).
It’s not just Uganda, it’s Africa.
These people are too pig-sh|t stupid to comprehend the concept of developing a country, and every time they get a bit of money, they squander it, whilst leaving everybody else starving. it’s been going on for hundreds of years, and it’s not about to stop any time soon. These people have been given way too many opportunities to change, but they never do. I say let them all rot.
Not quite “these people”, Spanner – more the grasping government officials who see a government position as a chance to line their own pockets not help their country. I do feel sorry for the non-corrupt people and the poor people who have no say in what happens to aid money. Aid should be more closely controlled and monitored to stop such abuses and make sure it gets to the people who need it.
As for Uganda, they need education about LGBT people and a stop to the influx of poisonous fundie propaganda they’re swallowing.
“Cab be voted on at any moment”. Oh right, how’s the crusade against corruption and poverty doing? Is it progressing? Or is this just a cynical distraction from it?
The people of Uganda have been brainwashed with far right propaganda by the government
and are being taught conservative views from the many orthodox religious groups that are giving the county aid in return for setting up in the country.
And all those poor people that don’t get the aid from governments like the UK because greedy corrupt fatcat politicans want to keep it for themselves. It is not fair!!!
If you look up and watch Scott mills documenty on Uganda you will be shocked at the attitudes the public have to LGBT folks. Not one person had a positive comment. Mills met with the author of the anti gay bill and narrowly escaped arrest because the politician thought they were at a different hotel.
This is, in the simplest of terms, disgusting. To be forcibly restricted from being who a person wants to be? And they say humankind is bettering? It is places like Uganda and people like Rebecca Kadaga that are withholding our global community from forwarding in equal rights. Despicable, to say the least.
The moment this law goes into effect, there should be a massive social network effort to influence any trade and alliances with Uganda, to the point that it is treated like Syria with international sanctions. This is an easy win if it is done wholeheartedly and massively by an international response.
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Uganda to pass death penalty for gays … Germany to pass death penalty for Jews.
See a pattern?
No.
Entirely different scenarios.
Explain why?
Germany was about domination and empire building, whilst using Jews and others as scapegoats. (Your original ‘ethnic cleansing’ one might say.)
Uganda is merely using populist politics, urged on by American evangelicals to deflect everybody’s view from what is really going on: The corruption, the laundering of aid money, and all the other dodgy goings on.
Think about it. Africans really aren’t bothered about a bunch of poofs, they have far bigger things to worry about like where their next meal is coming from. This is all smoke and mirrors and sleight of hand, and people like you are falling for it.
I think any gays killed by this “law” will have little time for such semantics.
At the end of the day.
Uganda to pass death penalty for gays … Germany to pass death penalty for Jews.
Result = same.
The cutting of all aid really does seem the only way to apply pressure to these backward monsters. There can be no excuse for supporting this regime.
Rebecca Kadaga is a corrupt villain who will before long be on trial for crimes against humanity.
I wish that was true. She is probably one of the wealthiest Ugandans, living on as much aid money as she can get her talons around. She is a filthy bigot, and the closest thing to justice that we can say will happen is that history will remember her for it – the black woman who struggled hard to suppress minorities, to spread hatred and to ruin the lives of the citizens that she had avowed to protect. She must be up there as one of the most hated people alive at the moment.
I really hope that we follow through and cut aid to Uganda – it’s filling Kadaga’s bloody pockets, after all. How many times are we going to ignore the methodical, manipulated persecution of our own species whilst doing nothing to stop it? It’s so frustrating that just for once, we couldn’t have prevented the problem, and that yet again, we’ll be having to cure it once the damage has been started.
Meanwhile in another former but richer colony, capital executions in electric chairs are very popular, and the UK government just looks the other way …
Yes. That’s a shame.
If I had my way I’d have them here as well.
And yet the people of Uganda live in poverty and the nation sticks out its bloody begging bowl.
Scr3w the lot of them. Inevitably there will be some rancid little conflict or otherwise a disaster or crisis and I have no qualms turning my back. If you want the benefits of humanitarianism, act like a bloody human. Treat all men and women with dignity and respect, or collapse into a mire of your own making.
So go ahead Uganda – sink into theocracy, all it will do is make a mandate for those in power to seize more for themselves, and make more ignorant poor people (the one thing religion excels at).
It’s not just Uganda, it’s Africa.
These people are too pig-sh|t stupid to comprehend the concept of developing a country, and every time they get a bit of money, they squander it, whilst leaving everybody else starving. it’s been going on for hundreds of years, and it’s not about to stop any time soon. These people have been given way too many opportunities to change, but they never do. I say let them all rot.
Not quite “these people”, Spanner – more the grasping government officials who see a government position as a chance to line their own pockets not help their country. I do feel sorry for the non-corrupt people and the poor people who have no say in what happens to aid money. Aid should be more closely controlled and monitored to stop such abuses and make sure it gets to the people who need it.
As for Uganda, they need education about LGBT people and a stop to the influx of poisonous fundie propaganda they’re swallowing.
You just described the UK too IMO.
“Cab be voted on at any moment”. Oh right, how’s the crusade against corruption and poverty doing? Is it progressing? Or is this just a cynical distraction from it?
The people of Uganda have been brainwashed with far right propaganda by the government
and are being taught conservative views from the many orthodox religious groups that are giving the county aid in return for setting up in the country.
And all those poor people that don’t get the aid from governments like the UK because greedy corrupt fatcat politicans want to keep it for themselves. It is not fair!!!
If you look up and watch Scott mills documenty on Uganda you will be shocked at the attitudes the public have to LGBT folks. Not one person had a positive comment. Mills met with the author of the anti gay bill and narrowly escaped arrest because the politician thought they were at a different hotel.
It gets worse this article expands on the bill and public opinon on it
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/12/uganda-anti-gay-bill-2012-pass_n_2116584.html
The people have been asking the speaker to push the bill through as a “Christmas gift”
I feel nothing but Contempt!! for people who agree with the anti gay law
Kadaga went on about a christmas gift to the population AND that homosexuals pose a serious threat.
That vile person even had the nerve to show up at a human rights confrence which SHE CHAIRED!! in London dispite her vile views.
This is, in the simplest of terms, disgusting. To be forcibly restricted from being who a person wants to be? And they say humankind is bettering? It is places like Uganda and people like Rebecca Kadaga that are withholding our global community from forwarding in equal rights. Despicable, to say the least.
The moment this law goes into effect, there should be a massive social network effort to influence any trade and alliances with Uganda, to the point that it is treated like Syria with international sanctions. This is an easy win if it is done wholeheartedly and massively by an international response.