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  1. Paul in Brighton 22 Nov 2012, 7:28pm

    Hopefully when he grows up, he’ll be able to sport a real beard and not the whispy excuse of a thing he’s wearing at the moment.

    And as for that hat!

    How could anyone take a hate-preacher seriously, when he turns up wearing an upturned knitted flower pot on his head and a dressing gown!

    And, as for him throwing anyone off a mountain – I see from his speech he’s unable to do this himself, but urges others to do it for him.

    The man is a joke.

    Next stop, the Comedy Club.

    1. It would be comedy if views as his were ignored, but there is growing extremism in london and the uk , due to hate preachers like this. And trust me it is no fun , when you are gay in a muslim area.

    2. Actually, with his whispy beard and moustache; if he turned his head sideways…
      his mouth might be mistaken for a virginal passage?

  2. The question should be – Why did they even invite him to speak at Brunel University?

    1. Paul in Brighton 22 Nov 2012, 7:38pm

      To make a fool of himself.

      That’s the great thing about freedom of speech.

      As has often being said – far better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you’re an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt…

      1. You obviously have no idea of the student population at brunel polyversity, most would probably support his views.

        1. Clearly, neither do you. Most of us are revolted by the thought of him attending.

          1. I guess you will be part of the mass protest/petition of students outrage there then? or has that not already happened? So far very little activity against hate from the brunel student population.

          2. Yeah being revolted by this backward monster is really going to make a difference –

            Brunel University – a nest of Muslim Extremists educating themselves in the UK and simultaneously preaching hatred in a democratic society

            If anyone should be ‘thrown off a mountain’ it’s this Degenerate!

    2. Mike ” The question should be -Why did they ever invite him to speak at Brunel Uni ? ” May be they have more gay as students and teachers.
      Having said that. There are more gays in muslim countries than in the West. Go to YouTube and type in ” bacha bazi-afghanistan” and see for yourselves.

  3. Why are these hate preachers allowed in the UK?

    1. I’m assuming because this one is British and lives here. If he isn’t, then I second the question.

  4. Clearly Brunel university doesn’t mind to be associated with illiterate morons and ‘cheap thrills’ debates

  5. Can we assume that they will also have a spokesperson from the Flat Earth Society to speak and enlighten them?

    1. I thought that Muslims were fully paid-up members!

  6. “The talk is going ahead as we have a legal duty to protect freedom of speech and we have asked for assurances from the Union of Brunel Students that this person will not breach the policies of the university, such as those on equality and diversity.

    He has already breached those surely?

  7. Next month a gay speaker who suggests his audience go out and kill moslems?

    OK Brunel University?

    1. I like that idea…!
      Top marks for originality!

      1. bloody good idea..?!!!

    2. twitlesss. I hope some one with balls will do that , and I shall be there to hear/incourage him, openly say kill muslims who want to kill gays. see

  8. NorthernIrishGuest 22 Nov 2012, 7:54pm

    Why on earth have the university student body not done anything to stop this?

    Students, get your act together and stick up for our community.

    I know if this man attempted to come to Belfast we’d be up in arms!


      We have. As soon as we found out we organised, not to mention spread the story to places like pink news and the secular society.

      We do not welcome this man.

      1. NorthernIrishGuest 24 Nov 2012, 12:08pm


        From the way Pink News reported it, it seemed like the SU was defending him. I got the completely wrong end of the stick.

        Well done for kicking into action, I hope yous get a good turn out, I’ll certainly be there in spirit!

  9. And for our freedom of speech shall we all draw cartoons of his prophet in flagrante? No? Because the aggressively delusional believe that such liberties only ever work in their favour.

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  11. I can’t stand it when university’s claim to be upholding freedom of speech. This only ever comes up when someone advocates the death of gay people, like that’s freedom of speech. Advocate the death of anything else, like Muslims, women or children, and nobody would think of it. It’s as if holding the view that gay people should die is less controversial, shocking and offensive as any other group of people.

    There are people who “disagree” with homosexuality. There are people who are almost worth the time debating with – look at the change in opinion of Conservative MPs after years and years of campaigning. Look at the President of the US! However, once someone starts advocating the death of gay people, then irrespective of your opinions on freedom of speech, they are totally worth ignoring completely, being shut out of society totally – they can contribute nothing but harm.

  12. Does anybody here know of the general intake of Brunel University in Uxbridge, west London?

    If I asked that question on The Guardian threads I would be instantly savaged as having asked a racist question.

    But it’s pertinent. I used to pass a so-called “university” in West London every morning ten years ago and it was clear that the intake was almost entirely Muslim. Also, a good friend of mine recently quit a lecturing post in another university, a long way from London, because his entire department became people with Muslims and they bullied him at staff-meetings as to the inclination and content of courses.

    The Home Office needs to look into this particular case.

    1. “Muslim terror” of raising any of this community’s issues is prominent throughout most of the uk, unless you live in a bubble.

    2. Eddy .I know that London Uni ,has bared use of alcohol in their canteen, because of muslim students objection, and the Studen Union caved in to their pressure. Where ever muslim out number they make the rules, and in turn appease them. see and

  13. That There Other David 22 Nov 2012, 9:27pm

    Oh good, freedom of speech. Lovely old chestnut that.

    Anyone want to use their freedom of speech to incite death against a certain Islamic preacher? He’d poo himself and run to the police if anyone did, I’d put money on it.

  14. Anyone who provides a platform for hate is as guilty as those who preach it. Case closed. Time to pull Brunels public funding. Lets get started!

    1. How about the right wing gay fundamentalist group ‘Stonewall’ they are so anti-Christian and then they play the ‘we have Christian members’ card…Hate is hate folks, lets love everybody…

      1. Derek. ” ..Hate is hate folks ,lets love everyone ” Are mad, I suggest you see and learn about muslim’s treatment of non muslims.

  15. Vulpus_rex 22 Nov 2012, 9:41pm

    One does have to worry about the people who invited him and the people who will listen to him.

    It would be nice to think that he will be roundly booed and shouted off the platform, however I suspect his largely Muslim audience will lap his filth up.

  16. Well, until gay and lesbians go from being OFFICIALLY second-class citizens to being equal to everybody else, there will always be those that feel quite safe to attack us.
    It’s a sad state of affairs but on the whole in western societies, it’s still ok to attack gays and lesbians ; verbally, physically. Nobody really is outraged apart from us. oh… yes some “raise their voice” (big F***ing deal!)
    The black community, or jews to name two obvious targets of past and present hatred, feel rightfully rather safe in the UK : politicians will go to any lengths to assure their safety.
    GAYS? fair game.

    This is why the fight for the recognition of marriage for all is so important. Until we have full, total equality like heterosexuals, we will be vilified, harassed, attacked, threatened, and nothing or no-one could change that.

  17. He would be most welcome to come and speak his views on homosexuality to us. We welcome any opinions he has, and he is free to make them, as homosexuals are to call people bigots.

    We shall be making contact with him

    1. Anybody can be arrested just for saying the word ‘terrorist” because people are scared and you are not scared of somebody who is advertising murder? Are you kidding me? I mean it’s possible – nobody was afraid of Hitler when he started talking. And for those so called “religious people”, isn’t murder a mortal sin.

    2. Enjoy his words of wisdom then, and if you are really impressed consider living in one of those countries that uphold “traditional values”.

    3. Stop listening to the voices in your head before you hurt yourself.

      Or is this the standard and ever tedious overly grandiose ego-masturbation of some rancid church?

    4. Well, actually he is not free to make them – as inciting murder and inciting homophobic hatred are criminal offences. Even if he refrains from such language, providing him with a public platform is an absolute disgrace – both on the part of the student union and the university.

  18. Anybody who rejects or criticizes the Western world should not be allowed to enjoy its achievements. Freedom of speech, no way.Bullies of any kind, (especially with sadistic tendencies like this one), always claim their right to freedom so that they can use it and “freely” get away with murder. “Man, just jump off the cliff yourself and end this agony that is your useless life”.

  19. “Do you practice homosexuality with men? Take that homosexual man and throw him off the mountain,”
    Well that’s a relief. There are no mountains in England.
    He will be the one paying for a taxi ride to north Scotland, we’ll see how long his beliefs last then.

    1. Well in theory he could try the Lake District but I still reckon he’s all mouth and no trousers.
      Can you imagine the logistics of that fathead negotiating the 3 mile 40 degree hike up Helvellyn or Scarfell Pike with an unwilling victim in tow just to commit ritual murder?
      As for playing the free speech card, he already forfeited that when he violated John Stuart Mill’s “harm principle” by preaching death to gays, he just doesn’t know it yet.

  20. Do we know for sure that he’s going to spread his “Kill the gays” agenda? It’s his right (in a free society) to think we should all be killed. However, it’s not his right to preach that, or to act on it. He can think whatever he likes, just as we all think he’s an ignorant fool. However if he doesn’t speak those words at the uni and has been brought in to talk about a subject he is knowledgeable about, then we cannot do anything about it. I disagree with his opinions on LGBT people (of course) but we DO live in a free country – FOR NOW AT LEAST – where you can think what you like. Just so long as those thoughts (should they be harmful to others) are not acted on. Just because we don’t like him and he doesn’t like us, doesn’t mean we should jump on the bandwagon and cry “get them all out” or other such nonsensical things.

    Come on now!
    Should he preach any hate or violence, then fine, record the thing, send it to the police and get him arrested.

    1. The point is he has already been caught on camera at a mosque preaching hate and violence (to paraphrase ‘if you know anyone gay chuck them off a cliff’) and the authorities did next to nothing.
      What’s everyone waiting for exactly?

    2. What subject is he knowledgeable about? By the way, nobody has said ‘get them all out’. But we condemn the BNP for their racism why can’t we condemn this man’s homophobia, his racism against Britain and Western ‘values’ and the rights of women?

    3. “Should he preach any hate or violence, then fine, record the thing, send it to the police and get him arrested.”

      That has already happened, you ignorant tool. The police and Crown Prosecution Service not only did nothing to prosecute him, instead they actually threatened the programme makers who caught his words on camera, and broadcast them to millions, with prosecution for racially motivated hatred.

      So, there is no point going to the police or the CPS – they are cowardly, corrupt filth who take the side of Islamists like Abu Usamah when they incite the murder of gay people.

      1. Lamia ” You are so right. Not only our Govt but majority of non muslisms are scared to say any thing against islam/muslims, the other day a boy threw a bacon near muslim mosque and he was arrested by police and ,there may be a case against him for doing so. I believe it was in Susex. see get wiser.

  21. Shame on Brunel University! What a disgraceful decision.

    First, they are attempting to take the moral high ground by boldly declaring that they have a ‘duty to protect freedom of speech’, yet they then proceed to claim that they have asked for assurances that the speaker will not in fact be entitled to say what he wants. So, far from engaging in this so called duty to protect freedom of speech, they are actually censoring the speaker by only allowing language that they agree with.

    Secondly – a duty to protect freedom of speech, what about the duty to protect a traditionally persecuted minority from witnessing a speaker who incites their murder being given a platform? Even if he says nothing about gay people, the university is, in effect, sanctioning his views by allowing him such a public platform. Would they allow a far-right racist a platform due to their so called duty to protect freedom of speech? I think not. Are LGBT people a less worthy minority to protect, then?

  22. “this person will not breach the policies of the university, such as those on equality and diversity”
    Well, I wonder what else the filthy savage has to say for himself. Freedom of speech is one thing but WHY is Brunel giving the creature a platform???!!!

    1. One has to question their ‘equality and diversity’ policies if they allow a platform to be given to a man who incites the mass-murder of a minority.

      1. They hate gays , no need to question their policies, its obvious their hatred of LGBT at brunel poly.

        1. Another stupid generalisation, ‘rapture’. Do you even attend Brunel?

          1. No i went to a real university.

          2. If that’s the case then your poly terrorist training technic will STOP this Monster from giving his hate filled rant – or by association you will all be targeted as sympathizers!

  23. GingerlyColors 23 Nov 2012, 5:56am

    Why can’t all these hate mongers sod off and just leave us in peace or am I the one being racist? If so then it is one rule for one and another rule for the other.

  24. Anyone any idea who to contact at the university to object to this?

  25. I doubt Brunel University’s free speech policy extends to inviting Nick Griffin to give his thoughts; Islam and the BNP are different sides of the same fascist coin.

    1. brunel poly would then seem to be fascist enablers.

    2. Angela_K ” islam and the BNP are different sides of the same fascit coin ” I disagree with you , How much do you know about islam? I suggest you and likes of you to see and and then come back to comment. It is shame that people like you condeming BNP without know facts.

  26. They seem to be offering a platform for incitement to violence.
    Surely there is a case for arresting both this sinister clown and his enablers?

  27. I just got this message from Brunel Uni via FB….#

    “Brunel University Hi Daniel. The talk is going ahead as we have a legal duty to protect freedom of speech and we have asked for assurances from the Union of Brunel Students that this person will not breach the policies of the University, such as those on equality and diversity. However, if we are concerned that that these policies will be breached, the event will not be allowed to take place.

    Daniel Fitzgerald Good morning I agree freedom of speech needs protecting UNLESS that includes Incitement To Murder, your speaker HAS often incited the murder of Gay people….that surely breaches your equality & diversity policy?”

  28. Islam is getting away with so much these days. The premise that anything minority needs to be defended from abuse is correct, but the idea that minority intolerance, prejudice and down right fascism does not exist is either naive or deluded.


    Here is the link to our protest against this man, please spread it around any and all interested people :)

    1. Also raise concerns with the Home Office.

    2. Link appears to be dead!

  30. If only I could draw bad headgear and tacky beards in the name of allah I’d plaster Brighton with them and be dammed or what ever.

    1. Suddenly Last Bummer 23 Nov 2012, 10:24pm

      But that wouldn’t be allowed now would it Michael? We can’t dare offend Islam, the LGB community is fair gay however.

  31. These quotes are taken from Channel 4’s shambolic Undercover Mosque, which inadvertently got itself in trouble for incitement to racial hatred when it passed on the details of these teachers to the police. No evidence was found for “hate preaching” other than on behalf of the producers. See below.

    This is the usual moral panic about muslims whipped up by the media.

    1. So basically he tags on some bogus ‘context’ after the fact to cover his ass and everyone just accepts his explanation at face value?
      I guess when he was caught on camera suggesting shoving gay people off a mountain he was telling his audience to take us bungeejumping as some kind of community outreach?
      I’d be willing to bet ‘some of his best friends’ are gay.
      Pull the other one, it’s got bells on.

  32. This is surely a matter for the Home Office . I thought they were going to investigate the invitation of hate preachers to colleges such as these, picking grounds for extremist recruitment. It is a waste of time ,raising concerns with brunel .

  33. Also, some may consider this a bit below the belt, but I think its relevant. Student Rights is a pro-Israel interest group with a history of Islamophobia and which astroturfs UK campuses to promote Israeli interests.

    1. Why don’t you get back to the madrassa. There’s a sermon — all about the moral correctness of stoning ankle-flaunting whores & you’re missing it

    2. I couldnt care less about Islamophobia, Islam is a wicked and evil religion period…

    3. Yes that’s true… but I’m sure that these students aren’t inciting violence and hatred towards muslims.
      Also you may want to take note… Israel is the only country in the middle east that has gay rights. I’m
      sure you’d be happier living in a muslim country, rather than in a democratic free western one.


    I’ve just spoken to the Police in Uxbridge, & so far they are NOT awaire of this event next Tues, can anyone else phone them too.

    Incitement to Murder is still against the law!

    Phone Uxbridge Police on 0208 246 1557 &/or The CSU Hate Crime Unit on 0208246 1766.

  35. You know if he was Christian he would have been clamped down upon by now. One law for Muslims and another law for everyone else.

  36. Suddenly Last Bummer 23 Nov 2012, 10:21pm

    How jolly liberal of Brunel Uni. Now would they allow me to address the students with a hate filled speech about muslims or black people? I doubt it.

  37. Ignorant members of religious cults are spreading lies and hate all over the civilized half part of the planet. Snuff them out.

  38. I posted on their wall on Facebook, and this is their reply:
    In response to all comments regarding Abu Usamah’s visit, we reiterate that he is visiting at the request of the Union of Brunel Students’ (UBS) Islamic Society to discuss the subject of the Biography of Aisha. We are insisting that the subject matter of his talk does not breach either University or UBS policies including those that relate to equality and diversity. The event is being monitored closely by both the University and UBS.

    Lovely !

  39. Check this link to the UBS today.
    I still cannot understand that if the policy of the University in it’s equallity is as explained on the link, then why were the Islamic Student Union allowed to offer an invite to this hate preacher? This puts the spotlight on members of the Islamic student union, who feel it totally appropriate to give this vile man free hate speech on a University campus. Seems right wing Islamic fundementalists have fully integrated into the Islamic student union and the University as a whole…and that’s my freedom of speech!

    1. They’re passing the hot potato on… cleverly stalling…

  40. Long past time that every public house of religion had to appoint 3 preachers. A man. A woman. Someone from the LGBT community.
    That particularly includes every Mosque and Catholic chapel.
    Those who do not? they close.
    Shouldn’t be a problem for the CoE, must be the biggest employer of gay and lesbian’s in the UK!
    I realize some people will want to leave the UK because of such a measure. It’s all good.

  41. I just bet if I called him a filthy Muslim barrow, he wouldn’t think that was freedom of speech.

  42. Can PN update this story to see if this vile man broke the terms of the remit of the talk and ventured into homophobic banter land?

  43. Glea Sutterfield 2 Dec 2012, 12:34am

    I’d be willing to wager that the decision to protect this bigot’s so-called ‘free speech’ was made by either a muslim or a multi-cultured moron.
    Calls for violence are not protected speech.

  44. Pls start a petition to DEPORT this creep. We dont’ need haters whether they are from the US, ISrael or anywhere else.

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