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Poll: 34% ‘less likely’ to vote Tory if same-sex marriage is legalised

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  1. Let’s all watch as a massive swing to UKIP fails to materialise. Yawn.

    1. Spanner1960 21 Nov 2012, 1:42pm

      Don’t be so sure about that.
      In the Corby by-election UKIP came third and the LibDems lost their deposit.
      As a bell-weather test, that is not what a lot of people expected to see.

      1. Mark my words: there will be no UKIP MPs elected in 2015. They will do well in a European election and claim they’re about to make a breakthrough into parliament and then they won’t.

      2. barrygrant1980 23 Nov 2012, 1:45pm

        Have you ever been to Corby?

    2. Julian Morrison 22 Nov 2012, 11:02am

      UKIP are the protest vote. Like the Lib Dems used to be.

  2. Paul from Brighton 21 Nov 2012, 12:57pm

    Makes you laugh!

    34% are less likely to vote Tory if same-sex marriage is legalised!

    Actually, what this means is 66% of the Tory vote will remain loyal even if same sex marriage is reduced.

    And, given that many vote against the Tories as result of their historic opposition to Gay Civil Rights.

    You only but guess at how many new voters this will win for them.

    I don’t see this as some sort of victory for Colin Hart whose claiming things are falling apart for us day-by-day.

    1. Actually what it means is nothing.

      “ComRes surveyed 544 UK Christians on Cpanel between 25th and 31st October 2011 by online questionnaire.”

      And what is Cpanel you ask?

      1. Sister Mary Clarence 21 Nov 2012, 10:43pm

        “In the past many attempts to gauge Christian opinion have used results from a national poll, examining the views of those identifying themselves as “Christian” as opposed to “Muslim”, “Hindu”, “Buddhist” or “Atheist”. Given that about 70% of the UK population currently defines itself as “Christian” when faced with this question, this methodology is far from satisfactory as the majority of these will not be churchgoers. By contrast Cpanel specifically surveys practicing Christians.”

        “Cpanel Surveys run quarterly and each wave guarantees 500 responses from practicing Christians. Data are weighted according best estimates of national Christian demographics by denomination (obtained in the 2003 Church Census). Results can be broken down by region, age, gender, denomination and churchmanship to allow for a nuanced comparison of different Christian sub-groups.”

        Looking at the respondent type taking part in the survey on 34% of them less likely to vote Tory a shockingly small.

  3. The ComRes polls don’t stand up to scrutiny. They always use the rather oddly worded question: “Marriage should continue to be defined as a life-long exclusive commitment between a man and a woman”.

    So if you take from the results that 70% of people are against Gay marriage, you also have to take from it that 70% are against divorce – which is, of course, nonsense.

    The truth is that Catholic Voices and Coalition for Marriage continues to run scared from asking a very simple question: “Do you believe Gay couples should be able to get married” – because they know they have lost the debate and the vast majority of people in the UK (including people of faith) say yes!

    1. Spanner1960 21 Nov 2012, 1:45pm

      I agree. ComRes is known for their bias.
      “Do you think dirty little poofs should be allowed to destroy the holy union of matrimony and force churches to marry queers?”

      or something like that…

  4. Bobbleobble 21 Nov 2012, 1:04pm

    68% of Tory voters think marriage should be a life-long commitment huh? Then presumably we’ll see them pushing to have divorce outlawed and for the removal of MPs like Roger Gale from their party who are divorced.

    In this context the term ‘less-likely’ is pretty meaningless anyway. It doesn’t mean they won’t vote Tory and it doesn’t mean they intended to vote Tory in the first place.

    ComRes also don’t seem to have actually asked the question as to whether marriage should be open to gay couples so the 62% stat is pretty meaningless.

    I’d also question ComRes’s motive for this poll. They seem determined to force the Tories to abandon gay marriage, I wonder why.

  5. Labour, Lib Dems, Conservative, Greens are all pro gay marriage. So who will they vote for, the BNP or UKIP? Yeah right.

    1. Bobbleobble 21 Nov 2012, 1:15pm

      This poll is squarely aimed at Tory backbenchers and ministers with tiny majorities who might be in favour of gay marriage but would much rather keep their seats at the next election. The Corby result last week will have given quite a few a bit of a worry and this poll might shake loose a few like Anna Soubry and Jackie Doyle-Price who have wafer thin majorities over Labour.

    2. Spanner1960 21 Nov 2012, 1:47pm

      Labour, Lib Dems, Conservative, Greens are all pro EU. So who will they vote for, the BNP or UKIP?

      Yes. UKIP. And it is happening.

      1. Maybe the odd idiot. But no Tory with more than two brain cells. 34% of the Tory voters will not vote for UKIP just because the Tories support gay marriage.

        1. Spanner1960 22 Nov 2012, 2:45am

          You obviously didn’t read my reply properly.
          I didn’t mention gay marriage, I said EU.

          Had it not been for their stance on same-sex marriage, I would have voted for UKIP as well.

  6. Less likely than what?

    Comres are a total joke.

  7. Given that all the polls showing majority favor for SSM come from various polling compaines, what is Comres doing that’s so magical to reverse the trend?

    Here’s an idea, for anyone from C4M who might be reading. Try commissioning one of your polls through anyone but Comres and lets see what happens……

    1. Bobbleobble 21 Nov 2012, 1:24pm

      They’re asking a question deliberately designed to get this answer.

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 21 Nov 2012, 1:28pm

      Exactly. ComRes is the only polling outfit which doesn’t reveal it’s methodology if someone asks claiming it maintains client privacy. Privacy from what? So lame.

    3. The poll is amongst hard line Christians. The have a little database Cpanel of enable them to conduct research amongst practising Christians because usual research when asking about religion waters down the Christian view by including Chrstians with more moderate views.

  8. Robert in S. Kensington 21 Nov 2012, 1:27pm

    Notice how desperate their rants are and the extremes to which they go.? It’s because they know they’re fighting an uphill battle that they won’t win.

    This ComRes poll is just as fraudulent as the C4M petition and biased in their favour. It’s just another form of fear-mongering that doesn’t seem to be working that well for them.

    I wouldn’t mind betting that many of their supporters are UKIP, BNP who aren’t even Tories and of course, people using different email addresses and user names to vote more than once inside and outside the UK. It explains why ComRes refuses to reveal it’s methodology in every poll its conducted.

  9. Robert in S. Kensington 21 Nov 2012, 1:30pm

    Tories voting against Tories in 2015. Hmmmm, a recipe for their worst nightmare, a Labour victory and the Tory party exiled into the long grass for yet another 10 years or more over this one issue? They’re that sick to allow that to happen?

  10. Only ComRes comes up with these skewed poll results, funny that isn’t it.

    1. Sister Mary Clarence 21 Nov 2012, 10:45pm

      Only Comres uses a panel of hard line Christians to ask.

      Cpanel is utterly unrepresentative of any strand of public opinion

  11. Most ppl are less likely to vote Tory because of
    A) the economy
    B) the NHS
    C) education. Tuition fees etc
    D) reduced police numbers and police commissioner farce.
    Plus the overwhelming levels of political apathy mean many won’t vote at all.

    Most of the people opposed to equal marriage are in an age bracket that may not live to see a 2020 election, so pandering to them in 2015 is a little short sighted.

    If they do vote against equal marriage I will be more than happy to sit back and watch their demise, with pop corn.

  12. Tim Hopkins 21 Nov 2012, 2:04pm

    Yes, and it was also the head of ComRes who publicly released a letter recently that he wrote to David Cameron, telling Cameron he is wrong on equal marriage. Neutral? It seems not.

    Incidentally, it’s 82%, not 66%, of Tories who would not be discouraged from voting Tory by the Govt’s equal marriage policy. The 34% figure is not the % of Tories who would be discouraged, but rather the % of previous Tories who say they may not vote Tory next time anyway.

  13. So more people who are tory voters tend to be more homophobic than v pro-gay. Wow. I am shocked!

  14. Cardinal Capone 21 Nov 2012, 2:23pm

    Interesting how they always use the same pollster as the previous dodgy and misleading polls. What are they afraid of?

    1. Getting the ‘wrong’ answer, I’d guess.

  15. Seems like a blatant attempt to pressure the government into dropping equal marriage. Disgusting.

    I don’t believe that many Tory voters will switch allegiance when push comes to shove anyway. They say they “may” not vote Tory but if it’s a case of letting Labour or the Lib Dems in in their area, I bet they will.

    I think they’re only answering like this to get across their own dislike of ‘gay marriage’, and I bet only a tiny percentage of those who answered thus will actually not vote Tory in the elections.

    1. Bobbleobble 21 Nov 2012, 3:29pm

      They don’t even say they may not vote Tory but that they are less likely to. If they were 98% likely to vote Tory before and 95% now then that’s likely but they’re still going to vote Tory.

  16. Great, then vote in labour and legislate against churches.

  17. Who did it? ComRes? That’s enough info for me.

  18. What a red herring! Who else are they realistically going to vote for?

  19. Bullsh*t. The same claim was made over lowering the Age of Consent. These voters are going nowhere. 6 to 12 months after gay marriage is legalized, most people will have forgotten what the fuss was about. That has been the pattern EVERYWHERE in the world where marriage equality came about.

  20. Just like how giant swathes of armed forces personnel suddenly resigned when homosexuals were allowed to openly serve their country.
    Hype, and leading questions from comres.
    I want to know 2 things. Who funded this poll, and does that person still beat their wife?

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 21 Nov 2012, 7:06pm

      My hunch would be the Roman cult and whatever money C4M could get from other donors, maybe some from the U.S. such as NOM.

  21. Thew quicker they do it the better, as soon as people see it will have no effect it will have a non effect on voting.
    People are scared of change and need to see that it will not effect them, they will all calm down then.

  22. Maybe do a poll with a news source less likely to advertise gays as evil and against christians for a fairer result?
    I voted Conservative and i will next election.

    Daily Mail readers still believe the world is flat ffs!

  23. if they legalise it, it will be too late for not voting tory to do any good!

  24. Its all very exciting! This is a perfectly good chance to switch people away from Labour (and to an extent even Lib Dems) to the Tory party. If they don’t remain in power in 2015, then Labour or the Lib Dems will just push it through *shrugs*.

    Basically I think there is a 90% chance this government will either get gay marriage through, or will set the wheels spinning for it to happen in a few years.

  25. Gay Activist Paul Mitchell 21 Nov 2012, 9:44pm

    hey pinknews this would make a better headline:

    Poll: 66% ‘more likely’ to vote Tory if same-sex marriage is legalised!

    now thats better!

    The headline should be that – who cares what a minority of just 34 percent thinks!

  26. Two birds, one stone :)

  27. The letter from head of ComRes tells a story. They are not neutral. The survey is a joke. Colin Hart is a joke who has never won a single campaign in all the years as head of Chritiasn Instititue. When he get the sack? What a loser ( literally).

    Who listens to these people? Two journalists – one each on Daily Hate and Daily Terrorgraph.

  28. barrygrant1980 23 Nov 2012, 1:47pm

    Who did they survey? Not me or anyone I know (possibly a good thing).

    Did they consider the number of people both gay and straight who will vote for them if the introduce equal marriage? I think not.

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