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Labour MP backs petition against gay ‘cure’ treatments

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  1. About time someone introduced a measure of this kind. If it isn’t passed, I’m going to offer conversion therapy for the religious to help them kick what is so obviously self-destructive behaviour.

    1. billywingartenson 21 Nov 2012, 5:22am

      Religion is actually an implanted OCD – anxiety you dont actually feel but it controls your subconcious emotions.

      The xtian churches have had 2000 years to perfect what should actually be called brainwashing.

  2. Pavlos Prince of Greece 20 Nov 2012, 5:04pm

    How sign this petition via internet?

    1. Missy Obvious 20 Nov 2012, 5:25pm

      You can’t, it’s a paper one. It means you have to print it, sign it, and send it there. It’s unfortunate that they went that route, but I think for the parliament to accept the submission, it needs to be in paper form.

      1. Tom Stephens 20 Nov 2012, 6:09pm

        Hi – I’m one of the people involved with this campaign. As it happens you’re basically right. The problem is, parliament won’t let us have a paper/online hybrid for petitions to the House of Commons, and because this was a local campaign (initially!) we opted for the paper one. Paper does have its advantages, as we’ve now got signatures from people who just wouldn’t have signed an online petition.

        There’s a longer explanation of all the reasons for this on the “What we do” section of our site, but basically I must stress that for me, the issue with earlier anti-conversion campaigns is the lack of any parliamentary link. So the usual suspects sign online petitions like, say, AllOut, then they quickly disappear without Parliamentarians.

        Our difference is that, with a paper petition, MPs will physically see it being submitted, and we can hopefully supplement this with an Early Day Motion and Private Members’ Bill to really drive up the support in the Commons.

      2. Pavlos Prince of Greece 20 Nov 2012, 6:22pm

        How sad. I wish so much to sign it!

        1. Tom Stephens 20 Nov 2012, 6:50pm

          You can still sign it by posting to the return address our website at http://www.hulllabourlgbt.net. If it’s too much trouble, I’ll honestly even personally post you back the 50-odd pence it’ll cost you in a 2nd class stamp, and the 10-signature sheet only needs one signature. For info on why we’ve opted for a paper petition, see my blog post at http://www.hulllabourlgbt.net/blog/our-reasons-for-a-paper-petition/

          1. Pavlos Prince of Greece 21 Nov 2012, 3:34pm

            Thank you! But I live not in the United Kingdom…

          2. Tom Stephens 21 Nov 2012, 4:09pm

            @Pavlos Prince of Greece Oh, sorry. Unfortunately then you can’t sign it, but thanks very much for being so supportive!

          3. Pavlos Prince of Greece 21 Nov 2012, 5:03pm

            I just write my symbolic signature as a reply in the website of Labor LGBT. Thank You very much and good luck!

  3. Well done Diana Johnson! This form of conversion therapy is vile and shocking to the core. This is proberbly more important than the section 28 fight. Again shame it’s in paper form but we must act to stop this depraved practice.

  4. I hope everyone who read this comment goes back to the story, clicks download, then fills out the petition and sends it in.

    1. Tom Stephens 20 Nov 2012, 6:54pm

      Too right mate. Thanks so much. As I say, we only need one signature per sheet for it to be valid. Just note that it’s a POSTABLE address (not an email address as some in the past have put!) that needs to go on the sheet. I must stress we will absolutely not post anything to these addresses nor share them with others.Completed sheets we retrieve are sent straight to Diana Johnson’s office and won’t be looked at till they’re submitted.

  5. Surely that is the job of BACP to regulate counsellors and psychotherapists?

    1. Thomas Stephens 20 Nov 2012, 8:07pm

      Sadly not, mate. Psychotherapy isn’t a regulated profession in the same way as other organisations, which is the reason that gay conversion can happen in Britain today. The BACP righly condemns conversion therapy, but their statements don’t count for anything if you’re not a member of them. For more info see my information sheet at http://www.hulllabourlgbt.net/blog/some-facts-about-conversion-therapy-in-britain/. Labour planned regulation in 2007 then dropped it. Essentially we want to bring it back.

  6. Robert in S. Kensington 20 Nov 2012, 8:22pm

    Well done, Diana Johnson. Absolutely appalling that the Tory party is not touching it. Maybe it should support regulation of the psychotherapy industry for starters. I bet the right wing so called “christian” Tory bigots are the reason why the government is doing nothing to stop it.

  7. Its about time someone stood up to the evil practice of conversion therapy. This practice should have been outlawed years ago!!

    Im proud that Diana Jackson has stood up to the practice and i really hope that the Labour party and Miss Jackson are successful in calling for conversion therapy to be banned.

    Its darn wrong that LGBT people who’s sexuality is natural part of nature, is being treated as a disorder by bigoted right wing nut jobs!

  8. In the USA, California has banned ex gay therapy and calls the people who do it quacks, they kill people with what they do the priest and the psychotherapist, some priest are psychotherapist and they have blood on their hands from the people who they have killed or made kill themselves. Ex gay therapy people are criminals who need to be arrested and put in prison for crimes against humanity.

  9. billywingartenson 21 Nov 2012, 5:31am

    OH – I missed – here in California they passed a bill to outlaw this evil, , at least for kids under 18 –

    NJ and some other states are considering it.

    it may be the next big legislative battle – to keep quack psychs from ruining the lives of gay kids..

    BTW NARTH claimed to fix gays. its head, a guy named george Rekers – a baptist preacher, and fake psych – turns out he couldnt as usual even fix himself.

    HE also founded the extremly vile FRC, super gay haters whom AH of Germany would have hired to run the death camps gay victims division
    The FRC is headed by a tony perkins – here’s tony’s other agenda

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/picture-worth-thousand-memories agenda

    http://www.ranker.com/list/top-10-anti-gay-activists-caught-being-gay/joanne

  10. I’ve no problem with people being gay at all, but who the hell is this woman to stop CONSENTING adults who may wish to cure it (the fact that I doubt it’s efficiency is irrelevant) doing so?

    Typical woolly-minded politician with no priorities.

    We should be helping those who have no choice in their lives not nannying those who have ACTIVELY sought assistance.

    I think homeopathy is rubbish, but if that is what people want, up to them.

    1. homeopathy doens’t cause harm. “reparative” therapy does. Plain and simple. If there was a GP who said he could cure your headache by hitting you in the head with an axe – even if people freely sought that treatment – heck, even if for 10% of the population this treatment miraculously worked – that GP should not be allowed to give that treatment.

      1. I don’t think this therapy works for the vast majority of people, but it may work in some. I have my doubts about whether or not is 100% heterosexual or homosexual anyway, in spite of the pig-headedness of both the heterosexual and homosexual fascist who maintain that sexuality is black-and-white so it’s likely that some can be ‘turned’, however, the point is this: if consenting adults wish to try it, it is their choice to do so. It should be, rightly, banned on children, but not adults.
        You have no right to deny adults this ‘cure’.

        1. Robert in S. Kensington 21 Nov 2012, 12:33pm

          A ‘cure’? There is no such thing. Ex-gay ministries can’t even produce one controlled study by an independent psychiatric body and have not had any of their work published in the most prestigious medical and scientific literature. If indeed there were such a cure, I’m sure the internationally renowned journal ‘Nature’ would have snapped it up and published the findings. Ex-gay ministries are nothing more than scam artists fleecing their clientel of money while guaranteeing NO cure. That’s why they should be banned fuining the lives of vulnerable people’, some of them ending up in suicide as a result of harmful ‘therapies’. Some of them have been sexually abused by the very people who work for those ‘ministries’.

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 21 Nov 2012, 12:23pm

      Come back and comment when you can produce one iota of evidence that a straight person can be converted to a gay orientation through aversion therapy and praying away the straight. It’s a two-way street, mate. What’s good for the goose, is good for the gander. Get it? Oh, no…you don’t.

      1. OK, where did I say that this worked 100%? It’s just that it is not MY place to tell consenting adults what to waste their money on. As long as it’s not on the NHS.

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