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Brighton: Anti-equal marriage Christian councillor loses latest appeal

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  1. No one is impinging on your free speech you daft bat, you are clearly still capable of spouting your bigoted views at will. You just aren’t allowed to supplant the views of the party you were supposed to represent with your own hatred.

    Nice try to play the ‘persecuted Christian’ card, but apparently this isn’t just about the gay marriage thing but “a range of incidents” according to the tribunal.

  2. A christian lied and misrepresented herself? Never will believe it. Christians are always nice people.

    1. If only!

  3. Something doesn’t quite add up here – she’s a christian (and very right wing by the sound of things) councillor…in Brighton, which has a large LGBT population. Kind of goes against everything the Green party stands for.

    Now I am sure there are christians in the Green party….actual Real christians who are supportive of gay people and preach love and acceptance to all (like their book extols the virtue of). Sounds to me like the Green party in Brighton was infiltrated by the christian nutter variety whos sole objective is to stir things up, get their mates in the Christian Institute to start all sorts of legal proceedings claiming christians are somehow being “persecuted”. And what better place to do it than Brighton? I can see the headlines in the Daily Heil now: “Brighton militant gays persecute humble christian for her beliefs” Glad to see them fail miserably

  4. Rpbert in S. Kensington 20 Nov 2012, 12:07am

    “Christian” councillor, indeed? There’s nothing “christian” about someone who thinks that only LGBT people should be discriminated against just because she thinks it’s contrary to what she believes. Jesus Christ didn’t discriminate against any one nor did he judge others. Another bloody hypocritical bigot if you ask me.

  5. There is nothing Christian about her. She should ask herself “what would Jesus do?”

    Hope this will haunt her for the rest of her life, and show other “Christians” that this behaviour will lead to your expell from your community as well. Tables are turning.

  6. The “Christ”, you know, the one from whom the word “CHRISTian” comes said, and I quote, “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s” SPECIFICALLY calling for the church to stay out of the State’s business. Since we are talking about CIVIL marriages this daft twat should be a REAL Christian and render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s.

  7. Lilian Ladele thinks civil partnerships are unchristian and won’t do them and this woman thinks civil partnerships are christian ? but SSMs are unchristian and will support one but not the other.

    I wish the christian legal centre would consult with their clients and decide on what constitutes christian practice. I’m getting confused.

  8. Sad that these christofacists actually think they can win, that they actually have a principal at stake. Today’s racists.

    1. They don’t care if they win or lose – it’s all just ‘evidence’ of their persecution if they lose. So it’s a win-win situation for them. Now this woman can moan and whine about how she’s a victim, and how gay rights are trumping ‘christian’ rights blah blah.

  9. Lol you lost you daft bat the tables are turning fast on bigots just like you. imagine her face when equal marriage is introduced because it is coming lady whether you like it or NOT move along let us 21st century folk take over

  10. Yes, clearly we’re discriminating against you – how bigoted of us to deny you the right to discriminate, Ms Summers. Cry some more about how victimised you’ve been, and then, if you get bored, go bash a faggot like a good Christian.

    …Talk about pot and kettle.

  11. The Green Party was and is right to expel her for not following party lines. The same thing can and does happen in other parties. Only difference is that the Greens are known for their stance on full equalities, something the other parties could learn a lot from.

  12. “The decision to expel was taken in regards to her wider behaviour.”

    Just like the demotion of Adrian Smith at Trafford Housing, there is always more to it than just gay marriage thing.

  13. casparthegood 20 Nov 2012, 10:15am

    If she really has the courage of he convictions she should have resigned her seat and stood for re-election. Like most of her kind she seems to want to have her cake and eat it

    1. casparthegood 20 Nov 2012, 10:17am

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  14. Kathryn Howie 20 Nov 2012, 11:16am

    Another example of how extreme religiosity erodes the capacity for clear and rational thinking.

    Does this woman really think that because she has a religious view of something she can ignore the Green Party’s most basic policy positions, does she not realise that the Green Party wants members who agree with their equality policy and if their religious views are contrary to that basic policy, then that is a good reason for not being a member, after all why would you join an organisation and stand for public election under its banner if your beliefs (religious or not) ran contrary to the party’s most basic values?
    Also if she signed a written undertaking before standing for election knowing she was not going to act in accord with it then that is perjury and deception – good luck with the court case!

  15. Robert in S. Kensington 20 Nov 2012, 12:01pm

    That she signed a written undertaking to abide by party rules and principles proves that she is no christian because she simply had no intention to uphold the party platform and therefore lied and signed the statement fraudulently. She should have been booted out with no chance of appeal. She’s nothing more than a bigot using religion to justify discrimination for something that won’t even affect her life one bit.

  16. Good. What’s she even doing in a party that stands for the very equality she hates? Did she stand on purpose so she could try to mess up their voting, or make a point about how much of a victim she is?

    This is the latest strategy of the CLC – bleat about free speech and the freedom to uphold ‘biblical values’ in order to spread the misinformation that Christains are being persecuted. I wish the general public would wise up to this.

  17. Another case for the Christian Institute to take to court-and eventually the European Court in a heavily-publiscized case!! I ask you! The Green Party have been very well set up!!

  18. What bit of conventional party rules doesn’t she get? If you are elected on a party platform and then vote against it in the body to which you have been elected you are likely to lose the party whip. If you have the courage of your convictions you sit as an independent and fight your corner or, if you have even more integrity, you call a by-election to give the voters a chance to give a verdict on your new position. You don’t moan about being sanctioned for breaking the rules or insist that they shouldn’t apply to you. Perhaps she is just contemptuous of the clubs she joins – unless they claim to be directed by an invisible spook, of course.

  19. Robert in S. Kensington 20 Nov 2012, 3:23pm

    She can always join the UKIP, I’m sure they’d love to have her, stupid bint.

  20. The right to ‘marriage’ is about equality. This woman could never have become a councillor had it not been for sexual equality legislation. These ‘christian’s have such short memories. Also, I thought Jesus’ message was all about equality and love so why are these ‘loving christians SO obsessed with gay issues? Could it be that they have ‘issues’ of their own … ?

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 20 Nov 2012, 4:58pm

      Of course they do, Truth. That’s why they’re the most vocal. They’re in conflict with the one thing they want most but afraid to accept it. Many of them seek refuge behind religion thinking their urges will disappear. Instead they internalize their frustration and lash out against the ones they most want to be with. It’s a form of transferance of guilt and self-loathing. Do you notice that all have one thing in common? It is there persistent obsession with the sex lives of gay people, nobody else. That goes for the clergy of the abrahamic cults too.

      1. Excellent, Robert! Someone who agrees with me! These people will use any means they can (The Bible; Destruction of The Family, etc) to justify their own bigotry. I worked this out years ago. But why are others so slow to see it? If we were able to get the message out about what REALLY drives homophobia, the game would be up. “Show me a homophobe; I’ll show you someone gay, in denial”. That should shut the f***ers up!

  21. Cardinal Capone 20 Nov 2012, 5:48pm

    Free speech? But don’t the extreme Christian organisations support blasphemy laws?

    1. Indeed, but that’s the key. They want free speech – but just for THEM; and no right for anyone to discriminate – except for THEM.

      And they accuse US of wanting special rights!

  22. As a Christian, I wish the media et al would stop reporting these people as Christian, but rather Conservative Christian or something similar. They already believe they are the true believers and often the media reporting almost gives credence to this, allowing people to believe this IS the Christian position. Small rant…………..

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