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US 2012: LGBT history in the making

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  1. I can’t wait for this election to be over – I can’t be the only one here in the UK that couldn’t give a 4x who becomes president. The coverage here in the UK is way too much.

    1. If you can’t see/don’t care about the implications of this election of LGBT people in the USA and the wider implications to the rest of the world, you really are a narrow-minded individual.

      1. The most important thing to remember about US elections (especially since the Citizens United case) is that regardless of who wins, their primary objective will be to keep their corporate masters sweet.

        LGBT rights (and abortion and immigration) are wedge issues whose sole purpose is to show that there are some differences between the Democrats and Republicans.

        Don’t overestimate their importance. If corporate American decides we deserve equality that’s when we will get it.

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 6 Nov 2012, 2:33pm

      Really? Have you not realised that the economic melt-down in Wall Street in 2008 brought about the global economic crisis to the rest of the industrialised world. The outcome of American elections are extremely important for the rest of the world. If it weren’t for the Obama administration coming to the rescue of the major financial organisations, the risk of a world-wide depression would have been imminent and we in the UK would probably be far worse off than we now are.

      1. It could also be argued that if Obama has NOT come to the rescue of those horrifically corrupt, mismanaged, casino banks then we could potentially be a lot better off now.

        Ever strike you as massively sinister that private banks have inhaled trillions of dollars/euros/pounds from taxpayers, yet remain above the law?

  2. There is a presidential election every 4 years so it’s not that big a deal.

    And it is beyond disgusting that in 4 states there is an election to decide whether a minority group should have equal civil rights.

    What a vile way to treat people.

    1. That There Other David 6 Nov 2012, 3:08pm

      3 states. The 4th is voting on whether to strengthen the ban on same-sex couples getting married.

      However, I’m hopeful that the three that are voting on whether to extend marriage or not will do so. It will go long way towards finally killing this NOM tactic if all that money they spent turns out to be wasted across the board.

  3. Dave North 6 Nov 2012, 2:21pm

    The equation is quite simple really.

    Obama = LGBT progress.

    Romney = “return to the back of the bus.”

    1. Obama = LGBT progress – if my corporate bosses allow me.

      Romney = return to the back of the bus – if my corporate bosses allow me.

      The democratic system in the US has been corrupted to the point of parody.

  4. Who here is naive enough to believe that the US president has the ability to make anything but the most minor decision without corporate approval?

    Read about the Citizen’s United versus the Federal Election Commission to see how corporate America has taken over the US political system. It basically shows that US democracy is now merely a myth.

    Romney or Obama?

    Well Obama makes nicer noises, but he’s as ineffectual as Romney?

    And voting for either candidate is not going to change that reality.

  5. Br))zR – LGBT people in the USA so way behind the right and privileges we enjoy here in Europe. Te;ll me what president has done so much to improve the lives of USA LGBT. grant the current president as been more warming towards us.

    Oh yeah and how many wars zones have the USA drags us into -the same USA that refused to help the UK in the Falklands.

    Why is the prison in the bay still operational.

    Not to mention how the USA allowed the IRA to collect funding without any penalty.

    For many UK people it doesn’t matter who becomes president the same old same old will still exist

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 6 Nov 2012, 4:50pm

      Actually, the US did assist the UK in the Falklands war with strategic positions of the Argentinian navy through electronic (satellite) surveillance and giving the information to the British military.

      It was Tony Blair who gave false, unreliable intelligence to George Bush which brought about the start of the Iraq war.

  6. “The real owners are the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians, they’re an irrelevancy. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the statehouses, the city halls. They’ve got the judges in their back pockets. And they own all the big media companies, so that they control just about all of the news and information you hear. They’ve got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying ­ lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want; they want more for themselves and less for everybody else.” 
    George Carlin on who really owns America.

  7. “If American women would increase their voting turnout by ten percent, I think we would see an end to all of the budget cuts in programs benefiting women and children.” Coretta Scott King

    “Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.” Joseph Stalin

    “Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote.” George Jean Nathan

    “Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” John Quincy Adams

    “It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion.” William Inge

    “Thinking is not to agree or disagree. That’s voting.” Robert Frost

    “Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” Isaac Asimov

  8. “In reality, there is no such thing as not voting: you either vote by voting, or you vote by staying home and tacitly doubling the value of some Diehard’s vote.” David Foster Wallace

    Please get out and vote !!

  9. It really angers me that whether I should be able to marry is put to a public referendum.

  10. Gay Activist Paul Mitchell 15 Nov 2012, 4:23am

    For the first time in US history, three states (Washington State, Maryland and Maine) passed and APPROVED marriage equality laws at the ballot box through a referendum!

    Now that is progress!

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