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London: Low turnout for hate crime vigil

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  1. If I’d have known this event was happening, I would have gone… and I’m usually quite on the ball when it comes to attending events like this for activism.

    1. Mark Healey 24 Oct 2012, 12:19pm

      Hi Rob – clearly our publicity for this event this year was not good enough and for that I apologise – will do what we can to make sure it is much better next year. Date for next year is Saturday 19th October, with the Hate Crime Awareness Week falling between the 12th-18th October. Our next public meeting – is on the 20th Novemeber – 170 Community Project, 170 New Cross Road. Your welcome to join us for a review of this year’s vigil and discussion how we can do things better.

  2. I didnt even know this was a thing tbh. If i had, and i had had money, i’d have taken the train up there xx

    1. Mark Healey 24 Oct 2012, 12:19pm

      apologise – see reply to rob above.

  3. What? Where? When?

    1. Mark Healey 24 Oct 2012, 12:20pm

      Apologise – see above reply to rob

  4. Badly publicised… Didn’t even hear or see any advertisements for it.

    1. Mark Healey 24 Oct 2012, 12:30pm

      Sorry – we had minimal coverage in the LGBT press this year, not for want of trying. Posters were delivered to most Soho venues – but few put them up, mail shots went out to our mailing list 1,400+ people and through our social networking pages. Will do better next year – Hate Crime Awareness Week 12th-18th, with Solidarity Vigils on the 19th October. Come to our next Public Meeting 20th Nov – 170 Community Project, 170 New Cross Road 7pm. Or e-mail to be added to our mailing list

  5. Cardinal Capone 22 Oct 2012, 12:52pm

    I didnt hear about this either, so a story before the event would have been useful.

    1. Mark Healey 24 Oct 2012, 12:35pm

      Sorry – join our facebook page 17-24-30 No to Hate Crime Campaign or our mailing list Next year we will do better.

  6. I didn’t know anything about this?

    1. Mark Healey 24 Oct 2012, 12:36pm

      see reply to Cardinal above

  7. I didn’t know it was on.

    1. Mark Healey 24 Oct 2012, 12:41pm

      Our apologies – join our facebook page or mailing list and we will make sure you get updates in future x

  8. The band was actually the London Gay Symphonic Winds. Please correct this in your article.

  9. Dangermouse 22 Oct 2012, 2:29pm

    vigils do nothing to change anything, Lobby your MP if you think actions need to be taken and they certainly do.

    1. Mark Healey 24 Oct 2012, 12:52pm

      I have to disagree with you Dangermouse because I know many people who have found comfort at our events. After Ian Baynham died, 10,000 people turned out for our first vigil and a recording of that event was shown to Ian’s mother (who is in her late 90’s). That Vigil showed us at our best, as members of many communities coming together to show our outrage at what had happened, and our determination to show our support to those affected by hate crime. It all helps move things forward in a positive direction and is equally important to do as lobby your MP or engaging with otherto address these issues.

  10. Twat!

  11. I went to the original one and ended up relighting candles that were blown out be the wind! I went to the subsequent one too, but this year didn’t hear about it. Maybe Mark can advertise it better next year – get an article in advance onto Pink News maybe??

    1. Mark Healey 24 Oct 2012, 12:54pm

      Press releases were sent out leading up to the event and we were equally dissappointed with some of the coverage we received this year. We will do better next year. Would suggest you join our Facebook page and mailing lists to be kept in the loop. We will do better.

  12. I feel the same as most of the comments above.

    1. Why didn’t the organisers tell anyone about it?

    2. What would it achieve?

    1. Mark Healey 24 Oct 2012, 1:00pm

      Clearly we did not manage to get the message out as widely as we hoped. We will do better next year.

      What does it acheive? on a relatively low budget – less than £5.5k per year, we organise the April Acts of Remembrance (supporting those who were affected by the London Nail Bomb attacks), organise a summer Awareness Campaign (distribute over 10,000 leaflets at various pride events), organise sucessful fund-raising events (raising awareness of hate crime, how to deal with it and promoting local services), organise volunteer training events (empowering more people with skills which in turn benefits mroe people), host the Lonodn Vigil – which raises awareness, promotes people and organisations on the front line doing the work, show support for those affected by hate crime, gives people the opportunity to come togetehr in a positive way. Just a few acheivements I can think of orut of many.

  13. sam here knew nothing about the event not surprised the turn was low reading the messages on here

    1. Mark Healey 24 Oct 2012, 1:05pm

      We will look at what we did this year and learn from it so hopefully we will do better next year. Please join our facebook page so you’re kept in the loop.

  14. faeces' on the peniss causes HP..V,..., 22 Oct 2012, 9:50pm

    London Gay Symphonic Orchestra!!!
    Gimme a break!
    Why the homodeviant’ community wish to advertise their sexuality in every endeavour?
    It is because they are defined by their deviance and want everyone to know they are homoesexual. What possible connection does sexuality have with ability to play an instrument?
    Also, I believe that an orchestra that only utilizes gay players breaks the equalities act if it has gay only policy/ I am sure the deviants on here would be whinging their AIDS riddled butts off there was a London Hetero Symphonic Orchestra.

  15. Mark Healey 24 Oct 2012, 12:27pm

    Melissa – I don’t think your comment has anything to do with the London Vigil against Hate Crime. (1) It is run on a shoe string budget of less that £5.5k per year, (2) It is a community-lead voluntary organisation registered as a small charity, (3) It is run entirely by volunteers and I think that there are a number of factors this year that affected the turn out – we clearly did not get the message out to a wide enough audience judging from the comments above (we will look at our communications and media plan for next year), there were serious road and tube closures on the day, it poored with rain throughout the event – and a lot of our usual supporters were busy with teh TUC Demo. No excuses though – we could do better.

  16. Mark Healey 24 Oct 2012, 12:32pm

    Okay so we had a low turnout at the London Vigil this year, no excuses – we will be back next year and we will do better. 19th October 2013

  17. Mark Healey 24 Oct 2012, 12:34pm

    Read the reply to Melissa above. This event had nothing to do with what your commenting about – and it was not a “LGBT” event as we gathered to remember people from all communities that have been affected by hate crime.

  18. Mark Healey 24 Oct 2012, 12:40pm

    Sorry to hear about your situation Jonathan – however the comparrison between ourselves and crusaid is totally unjust – we are a voluntary organisations registered as a small charity with a turnover less than £5.5k per year. All we raise goes back into what we do – staging the April acts of Remembrance, a summer awareness campaign, volunteer training, our Hate Crime Awareness Week and the Solidarity vigils against Hate crime. All above board here – and your welcome to check our accounts any time you like.

  19. Mark Healey 24 Oct 2012, 12:45pm

    Our mission statement: “We believe that is is important to actively remember the victims of hate crime, to show our support to those who have had their lives changed forever by acts of hate. We state clearly that hate crime is not acceptable in our communities and that we need to work together to tackle this problem” – We don’t support the dead, we support those who wish to gather and remember their loved ones, to facilitate those who want to gather, who want to work together, to make a difference.

  20. Mark Healey 24 Oct 2012, 1:04pm

    We are a small voluntary organisation with a turn over of less than £5.5k a year. Read our mission statement posted above. You may not appreciate what we do, the comfort that our events bring to some of those who have been affected by hate crime, but we do it because it needs to be done – we need to tackle hate crime within our communities and ensure we support those affected by it.

  21. This is clearly a well intended event and hats off to Mark and his team for arranging it.

    Publiciity isn’t easy but I can see that Mark has at least recognised that more needs to be done.

    Sadly, due to the costs imposed by Westminster City Council, I expect most of the money raised goes stright intot he hands of the council or other orgnaisations needed to meet restrictions on security etc. It’s probabaly worth trying to team up with an established LGBT charity that can have a two-fold posititive effect for this event:

    1) raising money for a charity that will go to lobbying in such issues, other campaigning, and directly aiding LGBT people in the future that will be affected by homophopic hate crime.
    2) being attached to a more high-profile charity it will likely allow for more distribution channels for publicity.

    Follow the model of things like rememberance day on 11th November (albeit in a smaller scale) and raise money for current work that the british legion do!

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