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  1. C4M/The Christian Institute (effectively, the BNP at prayer) has gone into full smarmy-panic mode, now Griffin has revealed his support.

    Note the way they now refer to the gay couple by their first names in a “we’re all friends really, want to *politely* force poofs to be second-class citizens” way

    Q: What’s the difference between C4M/The Christian Institute and the BNP?

    A: The BNP is honest about being hate-filled fascists.


    1. Deliciously, the CI FaceBook page is now starting to get comments from its members agreeing with Nick Griffin, prefixed with “I don’t agree with Nick Griffin, but…”

      Their god must be so proud.

    2. I also noticed that about the Christian Institute. Just watching them trying to squirm their way out of what they started in the first place is nauseating.
      They started it, and now they’ve got it.
      The finger of blame for this points right at the Christian Institute. They threw down the gauntlet and the BNP have picked it up on their behalf.

    3. Jesus Mohammed 19 Oct 2012, 1:03pm

      Mr. Griffin long ago allowed his details to be published publicly, so here they are, should anybody be passing by Llanerfyl on their way to the beaches of Barmouth and West Wales!

      Mr Nick Griffin
      Y Gribin,
      Powys SY21 0JQ
      Tel. 01938 820560

      1. You’re lowering yourself to his level :-/

        1. Jesus Mohammed 20 Oct 2012, 11:54am

          NO! You need to learn to stand up to Bullies and give them as good as they give!

          Your remark is the easy way out. Inaction. Passivity.

    4. well said mate

  2. Craig Denney 19 Oct 2012, 11:22am

    During last years summer riots a guy was arrested and sentenced to three years for using Facebook to try to incite violence.

    So whats the difference with Griffin’s out-bust and why is he allowed to walk, so far then?

    1. Nick must be one of those speshul mighty whiteys…
      I thought they died out decades ago, but sadly not :(

  3. Nick Griffin is the only creepy thing here. Him and his dodgy eyes.

    I do hope that the full extent of the law is used against him.

    While I also don’t like the CI, at least they have distanced themselves from him which I guess has to mean something?

    1. Yes. It means the CI are snivelling cowards who panic when the true nature of their followers is placed under a modest spotlight.

    2. Dodgy eye. He only has the one. Not that it matters, but just letting you know!

  4. Mumbo Jumbo 19 Oct 2012, 11:32am

    “….there’s nowhere to park….”

    A appropriately trivial response to a trivial person.

  5. The BNP supports the C4M – this must be advertised widely as it will utterly discredit them.

    And why hasn’t Nick griffin been arrested yet?

    Incitement to riot is a crime.

    1. Craig Denney 19 Oct 2012, 11:42am

      Do you remember when that BNP members list was in the news and the high numbers of Police officers who were members, that’s probably why he hasn’t been arrested.

      1. That is total rubbish, don’t you also remember that one Merseyside officer was dismissed for being a member when that list was published. Police Officers are not allowed to be members of the BNP. I’m an out gay police officer and quite frankly I’m of bigots having a pop not only at me for being gay but also a bobby. Stop judging a whole profession, there’s a great many officers who are supportive of gay people or like me are gay and out themselves.

        1. Craig Denney 19 Oct 2012, 9:22pm

          So in your expert opinion should Griffin be prosecuted?

          By standing back the Police will encourage Griffin to insight even more violence against the gay community, he should have been immediately stopped and he was not, the Police now have questions to answer to why they did not act to stop him in his tracks.

  6. So famous racist Nick Griffin is now a Christian?

    So, to be clear, famous racist Nick Griffin follows a religion that started in the Middle East and who’s saviour is definitely in no way white?

    HAHAHAHA! Wow! Just wow!

  7. Evil man. But quite pathetic too. Hopefully the police will take action against him inciting hatred against two men who have fairly won a case in a British court of law.

  8. No, you bloviating tub of rancid suet, people do not have a right to discriminate.

    And it looked like a clear violation of the Communications Act as it was suggesting a mobbed response to a perfectly legal act. If people can be in fear of a mob descending on them as a result of their using the courts and legislation appropriately then rights are subverted and we have mob rule.

  9. He talks of Heterophobia as if it’s relevant to this case, the case was about discrimination on religious grounds in a business who’s website claims to welcome all. Christians don’t want freedom of religion or speech, they want freedom to discriminate and bypass law. There is no heterophobia involved. Should they have the right to exclude anyone they don’t like? Like blacks or Asians or people of other faiths?
    And this dim-wit is supposed to have a law degree!

    1. A law degree from Cambridge no less – extraordinary, isn’t it? The convolutions of logic that you’d have to undergo to see an instance of two gay people being denied a room that they’d booked and paid a deposit for as “heterophobia” are more Byzantine than Istanbul!

      1. Nick Griffin knows that most judges are very conservative right? They are mostly older gentlemen who don’t like to see change and that the Human Rights Act is seen as a last resort when you have no other argument?

  10. Daniel Manuel 19 Oct 2012, 12:10pm

    He just doesn’t seem to understand the law. Of course your home is your home – and you can choose who you would or would not allow in to it. However the moment you choose to turn that home into a registered business such as a B&B you have to abide by the commercial laws of the land. Which forbid discrimination on the grounds of faith, race, disability or sexual orientation.

  11. What’s Griffin’s address? Presumably he’d have no objections to it being posted all over the internet…

  12. Robert in S. Kensington 19 Oct 2012, 12:16pm

    Vile, disgusting bigoted scumbag! Homophobia hiding behind religion to score points. How would he like his home being picketed, tit for tat?

  13. “I most definitely didn’t post a menacing message and there’s nothing inciteful”

    So I guess when he alluded to “A British Justice team will come up to Huntington & give you a bit of drama by way of reminding you that an English couple’s home is their castle. …”
    What he was refering to was a Shakespearean flashmob reenacting scenes from Henry the 5th on their lawn.
    And when Don Corleone said “send them to sleep with the fishes” what he meant was some kind of aquatic brothel where people who are carnally attracted to hallibut can get their jollies.
    Pull the other one, it’s got bells on.

    1. And don’t forget the line about wanting the judge’s address too! C’mon, how can he get away with that!!

  14. That There Other David 19 Oct 2012, 12:18pm

    Discrimination in the provision of services a “right” Nick? Are you aware of the 2010 Equality Act? No?

    Why am I not surprised? This man really is a knobend. No wonder even the other racist NF types think he’s a complete berk.

  15. He doesnt really care about the B&B owners, he simply wants the legal right to discriminate himself. Its a cornerstone of the BNP, without it they will always be weak.
    The sad thing is if the right was ever granted the bigots that vote for the BNP would be the first under attack, because most are poor.

  16. Griffin is so utterly loathsome that I’m reluctant to call him a toad, as it’d be unfair to those essentially harmless amphibians. (The average toad is probably slightly better-looking too.)

    1. Toads are beneficial to the environment and many are important predators of pests that eat garden plants and crops. Nick Griffin contributes nothing positive or good to humanity.

  17. Jesus Mohammed 19 Oct 2012, 1:04pm

    Well, Mr. Griffin long ago allowed his details to be published publicly, so here they are, should anybody be passing by Llanerfyl on their way to the beaches of Barmouth and West Wales!

    Mr Nick Griffin
    Y Gribin,
    Powys SY21 0JQ
    Tel. 01938 820560

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 19 Oct 2012, 1:34pm

      Thanks for posting that. Let’s hope his address goes viral. Give him a dose of his own medicine.

    2. From what I can see on Google Maps it’s in the middle of nowhere (how appropriate) and the house seems to be out of sight from the nearest road. Just as well for the odious Griffin.

      1. Jesus Mohammed 19 Oct 2012, 2:08pm

        Yes, Rehan, he’s squirrelled away, an Englishman living in a rabidly Welsh, awfully racist, and Welsh-speaking part of Mid Wales where he must feel very unconnected with the local community but, at least, safe from physical threat.

        In his total isolation out there in wild West Wales this sicko dreams up his sick fantasies and delusions.

  18. Just take a look at the Daily Mail website if you want to see comments that are breathtakingly stupid even for a bunch of crypto-fascists. Also the high support of the Golden Dawn in Greece on that site shows much of the Mail’s readership for what it really is and to think they had a story showing pictures of Jewish people in the Kutno ghetto in Poland in 1940 yesterday too. There are more nasty pieces of work out there than you think.

  19. Is this the same Nick Griffin that had the gay affair with Martin Webster back in NF days? At least, according to Mr Webster.

    1. Some people have an unerring ability to plant horrific images in my mind just when I’m having lunch.

      1. I second that.

  20. Cardinal Capone 19 Oct 2012, 1:29pm

    Threats against the judiciary now too. probably illegal. The man sounds like he has gone off his trolley.

    1. Was there ever a trolley?

  21. Calm down, everyone. Nothing violent or threatening is intended when the BNP publish your address on the Net.
    And if you believe that, I have a lovely bridge I would like to sell you.

  22. Dave North 19 Oct 2012, 1:46pm

    Even though it is an old story, I see the Christian Institute has republished the Nick Clegg “bigots” gaffe.

    Looks to me like they are pouring petrol on the fire in the aftermath of the B&B case.

    1. ‘”Gaffe”?…..surely the gaffe was not his original assertion, which was quite true, but his backtracking afterwards in capitulation to the Christian bigots…

  23. The people that are part of the BNP are scummy, lower-class chavs. Posting their address is going to get their house vandalised and they could even get hurt. I’m sure then he’ll apolo- oh no, wait… no he won’t.

  24. This is delicious! Christians organisations shown up by their allies for their fascist ideals, gay civil rights all over the front pages of national newspapers…
    How much thanks we owe to our enemies!

  25. Dave North 19 Oct 2012, 2:04pm

    I see the Christian Institute is trying to spin this story to their advantage…

  26. Mister Fister 19 Oct 2012, 2:41pm

    Question: How do you stop Nick Griffin from drowning?

    Answer: You don’t.

    Question: How do you stop Nick Griffin from drowning?

    Answer: You take your foot of the back of his neck.

  27. As he is an elected MEP for the North West will the European Parliament have anything to say about his “conduct” and bringing the European Parliament into disrepute?? If convicted of a crime – as he should be in my opinion – a hate crime, then will he loose his seat in said parliament?

  28. I am livid at this recent act of homophobia and incitement of homophobic abuse.
    I agree that all people should be able to air their views but not that they should air addresses of people and recommend demonstrations at their addresses. There are a number of extremists who align themselves with the BNP and similar parties who will take it upon themselves to act out against this couple who in the eyes of the law have done nothing wrong. I believe that Nick Griffin is aware of this, hence the tweet.
    What Nick has done is outrageous and far from a public apology he should be stripped of his position within the MEP and charged with inciting hatred.
    I believe that if a Christian woman does not wish to share her home with a gay couple or unmarried heterosexuals or those who leave the toilet seat up after they pee, then she should not open her home as a business and run a service where she should expect to find a wide cross section of the British public wishing to stay in her home.

  29. You need to know the law Nick Griffin! It is against the law to discriminate against us just because of our sexuality. Just as it is to discriminate against someones sex, colour, religion, height, how FAT they are or how thin they are….Does discrimination against bigots fall into the law too? Gods I hope not!!

    1. faeces on the penis causes HPV-- and HIV,..., 19 Oct 2012, 8:19pm

      It is not against the law to discriminate against weight at all. Please name the offence abd cite a single instance where someone was prosecuted for it.

  30. Garry Cassell 19 Oct 2012, 3:32pm

    well, it seems only a certain kind of comment is printed on this site…is it controlled by the religious right??

  31. Garry Cassell 19 Oct 2012, 3:33pm

    Freedom of speech here..what a joke…

    1. With freedom of speech comes responsibility and what Nick Griffin did was irresponsible to say the least. Using intimidation and threats is downright disgusting.

      I get the impression that most of you people who complain about “freedom of speech” in these instances don’t really give a toss about freedom of speech, you only care about it when it comes to you or people who share your views. That’s not freedom of speech, that’s having a desire to persecute others.

  32. johnny33308 19 Oct 2012, 4:32pm

    Griffin, like many of our own (American) politicians stands for FASCISM….pure and simple. Anyone who just wishes to be treated EXACTLY like everyone else is fair game for such as these in their drive to divide citizens from one another so as to cause more problems, not solutions. Freedom is for ALL people not just racist, bigoted, manipulative idiots such as Griffin. Their words and actions say all that needs to be said about the BNP…..ever pandering to the lowest level of intellignece in the electorate…..shameful of them!

  33. Robert Brown 19 Oct 2012, 4:53pm

    . . . and unfortunately we still have LGBT people as members of the BNP, UKIP, EDL and other homophobic institutions . . .

    Oh well . . . one day we will learn.


    1. And we still have LGBT people as members of islam, catholicism, and other homophobic institustions. Oh well, one day they will learn.

  34. “I only regret that we haven’t so far found the address of the judge…”

    So now he is threatening a judge. Nice !

    1. He’s the kind of person that froths at the mouth, tries to incite others to do the bullying for him, because he’s not man enough to do it himself. Just a bully that hides and uses his public ‘stature’ [prancing about in front of a TV at voting time].

      I can’t be bothered to say any more about this walrus which wallows in a fetid pit of his own filth.

  35. Someone needs to teach this man that he is not being oppressed or persecuted when others gain the ability to enjoy rights which he takes for granted.

    1. he knows but hes playing up to the masses in society who don’t have a law degree.

  36. Griffin has a degree in Law from Cambridge. And he’s spent years skirting on the edge of legality. I’m sure he knew exactly what he was doing.

    I used to be outraged that the UAF had thrown darts in his face when he was giving a TV interview outside of Parliament. Now I have the same contempt for Griffin as I have for the gay muslim group, who advertised the name and address of the man who (in response to muslims plastering east London with “Gay Free Zone” stickers) organised the East End Gay Pride.

  37. This waste of skin says that discrimination should be legal, and yet he would be the first person to get outraged if a religious person… no, if a Christian, were legitimately discriminated against (by which I mean denied being allowed to stay at a B&B because the owner didn’t agree with their religion, NOT someone being asked to remove their crucifix necklace because it’s a health and safety hazard).

  38. Paul in Brighton 19 Oct 2012, 7:38pm

    Just like Cardinal O Brien has courted the support of Robert Mugabe, The Christian Institute have courted the support of Nick Griffin.

    What’s surprising is both ‘institutes’ are surprised at their supporters, but if they actually listened to themselves, they’d realise that as the pews empty, the seats are being filled by the likes of Mugabe and Griffin.

    Marriages made in heaven, in my view.

  39. It was menacing and inciteful. It’s just that he’s so used to speaking that way about minorities he hates, he can’t see it. He’d better pray the couple or their home aren’t harmed, because he’ll be facing the inside of a cell pretty quickly with the new rules.

  40. Michael Cramp 19 Oct 2012, 8:48pm

    So if some Altruistic fanatic goes to their home and hurts or kills these guys who stood up for their rights to be accommodated in an establishment that offers rooms not religious views will then this member of parliament be held as accountable for that personal attack or will the British government look the other way as has happened here. He should be ousted from his parliamentary posting immediately the dick head. Sorry this just makes me angry “who truly is the bully in this case”. Cyber bully at that.

  41. Congress. Here is an idea. Instead of wasting time legalizing different forms of humanity. Why not make it ILLEGAL to discriminate against other forms of humanity. How about making it illegal to persecute others for their personal lifestyles and choices. How bout we just shun or exile those whom don’t live the way YOU want. Why not? Because that would be too easy. This Gay rights movement is starting to become irksome. Not only do you have Christians that want no rights for anyone. But now we have gays that wanna push their gayness off on Christians. You’re making yourself no better than them. There should be no “They won’t let us have a joint room and share a bed at this business. So we are going to court.” No the world should NOT work that way. You should NOT force yourselves on someone like that. We need to push the issues of tolerance, and not to the point where we can no longer tolerate those whom we are trying to teach tolerance. The human condition worsens.

    1. Dave North 20 Oct 2012, 2:04pm

      What a load of sh!te.

      1. GingerlyColors 21 Oct 2012, 7:35pm

        And you know it is.

  42. Why didn’t he say this sort of thing when the Cymorvah case became known?

    Clearly he is in the valleys of Wales for some reason; he must know he isn’t well liked so chooses to hide away from it all.

  43. Jesus Mohammed 20 Oct 2012, 12:02pm

    Yes, the reason Griffin has lived in the remotest valleys of north Mid Wales for many years is that he’s “safe” there. No reporters and photographers or protesters are going to stand outside his house in Llanerfyl because there isn’t a cup of coffee, a sandwich, a pint of milk or a pint beer to be had for miles!

    I’ve passed by Llanerfyl many times. He’s free of all human beings there. No gays. No Muslims. No blacks. Only a few Welsh-speaking Welsh folk in distant farmhouses . . . and lots of sheep. So it’s just him, the missus, and his sick thoughts.

  44. I’m sure Nick Griffin must do similar sort of things at the Polling stations… He probably bullies and intimidates other candidates too.

    It’s plain to see… the B&B owners discriminated. FACT. It doesn’t matter if they are Christians. They declined to serve/give a service and chose to discriminate.

  45. “Gay rights have gone too far. When I was young, homosexuality was a crime. Now if you dare utter a word against them, it’s You who are under arrest. Time to redress the balance please.
    – Lois Usher, Southport, 19/10/2012 17:30”

    Comments like this are getting multiple green arrows on the Mail website. Yesterday I mentioned how the Mail readers are supporting far right politicians such as the Golden Dawn and the BNP and the reason for this is because I find the amount of homophobes who don’t belong to a far right party yet sympathise with them more worrying.

    1. Dave North 21 Oct 2012, 2:56am

      Don’t bother with the Daily Hate. It has always been that way.

      It is a vile repository that refuses to realize its Naz!i origins.

      The Telegraph as run by the Vatican is similar.

      The bile that comes from these places is predictable

  46. Robert in S. Kensington 21 Oct 2012, 5:05pm

    This video should be played to every right wing bigot in the UK including those in opposition in all three parties.

    It’s an amazing speech that should make bigots feel ashamed of themselves.

  47. Midnighter 21 Oct 2012, 5:15pm

    For those interested there is a petition to get Griffin banned from Twitter.

    Personally I’m pro free speech, but you may decide that since he only uses this forum to spread hatred and division his soap box should be removed.

  48. GingerlyColors 21 Oct 2012, 7:38pm

    Wasn’t Nick Griffen the one who was up in arms when the BNP membership list got leaked on line a couple of years ago? As that man is claims to be a Christian (although I doubt he has seen the inside of a church in a while) then he should be treating other people the way he wants to be treated. I hope Plaid Cymru kicks him out of Wales!

  49. So then Nick… if you were harangued by two people you’d never met before and given a load of abuse, called this, that and everything else but your proper name, you would merely TOLERATE it, would you? You’d accept it without saying something back? You’d just say thank you, and just laugh would you?

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