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Tracey Emin: The church should embrace gay people

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  1. Robert in S. Kensington 15 Oct 2012, 3:07pm

    Well said, Tracey and thank you. Every supportive voice counts towards equal marriage.

  2. Spanner1960 15 Oct 2012, 3:22pm

    What would she know?
    Pretentious, talentless pisshead.

    1. Dave North 15 Oct 2012, 3:49pm

      And your rich and famous because……………………?

      1. Spanner1960 15 Oct 2012, 6:39pm

        Mitt Romney is rich and famous.
        Does wealth and notoriety indicate talent or intelligence?
        I can name countless people that are equally rich, famous and completely and utterly despicable.

    2. Give it a break, admittedly her slurry, drunken rant on television was how she first became known but she has since given up the booze.

      Tracey clearly has an ability for promoting herself and her art and if she is now also using that ability to promote and support same sex marriage then I think she’s deserves encouragement..
      Thanks Tracey.

      1. Spanner1960 15 Oct 2012, 6:42pm

        “Promote”?
        She just happened to say she is in favour.
        The only thing she is promoting is herself on the back of our cause.

        1. Come on now, she was obviously asked to write an opinion piece for the IoS, and put down her thoughts on equal marriage – what’s wrong with that?

          1. Spanner1960 16 Oct 2012, 4:13pm

            You could say the same for Rupert Everett who is considerably more qualified to talk about gay issues.
            However, because he went against a lot on here, he was torn to pieces.

            People on here are as two-faced as they come.

          2. But you’re not attacking what she said, you’re attacking her for being the person she is, and the fact that she wrote anything on the matter. Bit of a difference, don’t you think?

    3. When will you be writing to the Royal Academy of Art, complaining about her a position as “Eranda Professor of Drawing”

      http://www.royalacademy.org.uk/raschools/prospectus/staff,30,MA.html

      Let me know the RA’s response to your letter

      1. Spanner1960 16 Oct 2012, 5:05pm

        She couldn’t draw a pair of fcking curtains.

        1. It must be so reassuring to know so very much more about drawing than the Royal Academicians.

  3. This debate has made the case for secularism more effectively than endless books and pamphlets ever could. We are witnessing the attempted imposition of religious beliefs on civil law. Something that many assumed was a thing of the past.

    1. Yes, especially through the efforts of anti-gay hate group C4M and their dedicated program of misinformation and scaremongering.

      Christian Dominionism,
      Politically active conservative Christians (actually extremist) who seek influence or control over secular civil government through political action, with the goal of establishing either a nation governed by Christians or one governed by a conservative Christian understanding of biblical law.

  4. You are entertaining as always, Tracey – your greatest work of art is in fact yourself. Your positive words are also appreciated, but you really shouldn’t tell the churches what to do. In return, we all expect them not to tell us what to do, and especially not to dictate the laws that the rest of us have to live under. This is in fact the most important point, and the one they constantly seek to muddy.

  5. “I’m not religious but there is always a time for God, and a time for prayer,”

    Ha she actually got a brain?

  6. Robert in S. Kensington 15 Oct 2012, 4:32pm

    Whatever people think of her, would you really prefer her to support bigotry instead? Give the woman a break. We need every bit of support we can get because getting equal marriage passed isn’t going to be an easy job. I’d rather her be for us than against us irrespective of her faults as if none of us have any.

    1. Spanner1960 15 Oct 2012, 6:40pm

      With friends like that bag of piss and wind, who needs enemies?

      1. Tim Chapman 15 Oct 2012, 8:09pm

        Why so offensive? If you don’t think she’s a talented artist, then fine (neither do I). But what’s to gain by calling her a bag of piss and wind? All that does is show you to be an unpleasant person which, as far as I am concerned, makes your views irrelevant, not hers.

  7. Barking, but the support is welcome :-)

  8. DCBrighton 15 Oct 2012, 5:51pm

    I want churches and religions to be brutally honest about their beliefs. Then I know my friends and then I know my enemies.

  9. As more and more people who are known in the public realm for one thing or another publicly acknowledge their support for marriage to be a choice for everyone, the church has to take notice. Otherwise they’ll be left in the stone age… the direction they are already irreversibly heading anyway!

    Come on churchy, keep up!

  10. Have we not been saying for a long time that Church and State remain separated.

    If only Governments and Politicians would do the same. Keep religion out of state affairs.

    We will all be better off.

  11. It is no debate to this priest. God loves us all and delights in our loving one another, regardless of the sex. Please be patient with the church, which sometimes moves at a glacial pace. This too will change one day and one day soon…

    1. Spanner1960 16 Oct 2012, 4:14pm

      I think we will all have long departed this mortal coil before anything like that happens.

    2. I’m glad you think so. However a great many of your colleagues also feel they are capable of speaking for God yet report his opinions in quite the opposite way.

  12. No, going exclusively off the title. The church should not embrace people. They are their own body. They can choose whom they let practice THEIR religion. We should not force ourselves through their doors.
    Going off the rest of the article. There are valid points, but still. I don’t think trying to change an entire religion to do something they don’t want to do, is just as wrong as them not wanting to do it. Two rights….both are wrong :p

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