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UK: Lord Carey criticised for anti-equal marriage ‘Nazi’ remarks

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  1. Garry Cassell 8 Oct 2012, 8:03pm

    Carey, you bloody idiot…time to stop looking for attention…just go somewhere and pray to that fairy god in the sky…see if he/she will give you some help…we all know you need help badly…

    1. billywingartenson 10 Oct 2012, 7:18am

      hes’ probably a pal of the Kraut pope who in 2009 UNexcommunicated a holocaust denier, bishop Williamson.

      http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/erbe/2009/02/05/pope-should-excommunicate-holocaust-denying-bishop-williamson?msg=1 – comments

    2. billywingartenson 10 Oct 2012, 7:25am

      teh mroe vfiolent they are the more likely they are using REACTION FORMATION to hide there own homosexualty. And probably pedo as well

      My thanks to someone on this blog about a month ago for posting what reaction formation is about

      Check it on wiki

  2. Isn’t this the most absurd comment to date?. If I was Jewish I would be incensed by the comparison of comparing anti equality campaigners to persecuted Jews in wartime Europe.

    1. I mean’t by the comparison of persecuted jews with anti equality campaigners.

    2. True, it is an absurd comment, because it wasn’t just the jews who got sent away.
      True, they were the second biggest group of victims in that time, second only to the Russians. But it doesn’t take away the fact that other groups of ‘undesirables’ were sent away. As much as I’ve been told, homosexuals were also one of the groups that were sent away.
      I’m sure the average Jewish person would be just as upset at this gut ignoring the countless others that suffered alongside the Jews, moreso if the person speaking is doing so to promote their politics.
      Another thing Carey goes off the rails over is the issue of polygamy. We’ll ignore the oh so frequent mentions of polygamy in his story book, and we’ll have a look at the fact that the nations that allow and/or recognise polygamy are the most religious ones, and oddly enough, adhere strictly to one of the other Abrahamic faiths.

  3. Ian Bower 8 Oct 2012, 8:07pm

    Am I allowed to say what I really think or would I end up in prison?

  4. I am incensed by the comparison.

    I demand a personal apology from this bigot for his offensive language.

    1. Leonardo Ricardo 8 Oct 2012, 10:47pm

      Lord Carey of Clifton is a internationally recognized bigot and fool…the kind of man that likes the sound of his own voice best and damn the rest of you as he NEVER considers the impact of his remarks…once again, regarding LGBT people, Lord Carey of Clifton is a dangerous, to others, human being…he started this mess with his Lambeth Conference cowardliness (shabbiness in leadership).

  5. He actually compared those who oppose equality to Jewish people under Hitler?

    What a filthy revolting swine of a man.

    As for his identity – his church was founded on the gonads of a brutal king and his faith in general was a bloody desert export that arrived in the UK like a cancer, butchered the followers of indigenous pagan faiths, co-opted their holidays and stole their holy places.

    He wants to talk about cultural identity? What do the brutal campfire tales of desert nomads have to do with the United Kingdom?

    Carey, you are a vile beast of a man. And a liar. A pure liar.

    Now, Williams, you have just been blathering about how harm was done? Care to step up? Hmm? I won’t hold my breath.

  6. I take comfort from something someone said on Twitter today – Richard Coles, I think – that with every syllable these bigots utter, equal marriage comes a step closer.

    1. billywingartenson 10 Oct 2012, 7:21am

      I do hope the rotten pope lives and papasizes at least antoehr five years.

      By that time, with his insanity, we’ll bury not only the pope but hopefully the vatican as well.

      Think of the horrors of horrors we’ll uncover if we can get at their archives. The pope butler thing is probably about the pope working with muslims for another disasterous attack, which he would then blame on gay people.

  7. “Lord Carey said it was wrong to call opponents “bigots”.”

    – I’m sorry but anti-gay people are bigots.

    The dictionary definition is quite clear –
    “1.Obstinately convinced of the superiority or correctness of one’s own opinions and prejudiced against those who hold different opinions.
    2.Expressing or characterized by prejudice and intolerance.”

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 8 Oct 2012, 8:27pm

      Exactly right. We should all contact Nick Clegg and have him retract his apology for not using the word because today, Carey made it quite apparent that he is just that as well as being a hypocrite.

    2. I feel that no. 3 should be – “expecting the laws and powers of the state to be defined and used for the disadvantage of those against whom one is prejudiced.”

  8. Robert in S. Kensington 8 Oct 2012, 8:24pm

    Mormon polygamy? Carey is unaware that the Mormon sect abolished polygamous marriages in 1893. It was one of the conditions that enabled the state of Utah becoming one of the states in the union. What an idiot for not knowing that. What a vile, disgusting bigot using the Jewish people to make comparisons. Nobody is persecuting Carey and his bigoted ilk. We’re not calling for the burning of churches or the bible and we’re not calling for christians to be deported to death camps. Someone in government should go after the lying bastard. Today he’s shown his true colours and cemented his reputation as the bigot of all bigots, along with that other douche bag, Anne Widdecombe.

    1. ” we’re not calling for christians to be deported to death camps. ” Unlike christians who have called for that and mass government extermination for us.

  9. Isn’t it the other way around? Isn’t he trying to stop gay people being seen as human beings? But that’s just it, isn’t it? We’re seen as being anything but human by these people. What Carey is saying is getting very close to an incitement to hatred of gay people.

  10. Carl Rowlands 8 Oct 2012, 8:43pm

    Love thy neighbour! I wouldn’t give any of them the time of day. the man is an embarrassment to his ‘calling’ I am proud to say that I believe in fairies. He believes in fairy tales!! The distinction is huge!

  11. Lord Carey is one of 26 unelected bishops who sit in the House of Lords and who have the opportunity to influence all legislation. And some say that the HoL shouldn’t be reformed. What an outrage.

  12. Right! That’s it. I was almost ready to give his recent guilty wimperings the benefit of the doubt. BUT now he has damned himself as a vicious, mad old n@zi. I have never felt more like giving someone a bloody good kicking. His insane theories ridicule all theology.

    1. I don’t think this guy has ever done guilty whimperings. You may be thinking of that other dreadful excuse for a man, Williams.

  13. Well, we all knew that Mr. Carey had lost the argument before he opened his mouth, but it’s nice to know he’s now done it officially, according to the time-honoured rules of Godwin’s Law.

  14. I try, I really do, to see the best in people’s pronouncements (I’m not always successful there, but I think I do really try); but this is really well beyond the pale.

    I remember seeing a documentary on the Queen in 1990s, and Carey – then ABoC – came across as the most unctuous lickspittle arselicker imaginable. It’s disgusting to see that he’s actually achieved the impossible by going downhill from there.

  15. Jesus Mohammed 8 Oct 2012, 9:26pm

    One response to this “slippery slope” nonsense is to ask, “What’s wrong with slipping down a slope? Slipping down a slope can be great fun! The meadow at the bottom of a slippery slope is often filled with luscious green grass!”

  16. Who are we to stand in the way of someone that wants to be a complete moron.

  17. That There Other David 8 Oct 2012, 9:38pm

    I’m actually incensed by the stupidity displayed in this speech. This man has no comprehension of what Jews went through under that regime, or he wouldn’t say anything so damn well revolting. He’d also do well to remember that there were other groups rounded up and sent to those camps, gays amongst them.

    Lord Carey, you disgust me.

  18. Paul in Brighton 8 Oct 2012, 9:58pm

    One day, Lord Carey you will be dead.

    You’ll be remembered not as a campaigner and protector of the faith, but as an obstacle to peace, equality and social justice.

    Ann Widdecombe, one day you’ll be dead and no will remember you.

    1. I find it amazing that Ann Widdecombe – a woman who has never married and is a self-declared ‘virgin’ – can stand up and tell us how great marriage between a man and a woman is! Really? What would you know Ann?

  19. Oh shut up you daft old prune! Retire quietly and live like a monk if you’re so damn worried about what equal marriage may lead to.

    Who are you to say what it would lead to anyway? Can you predict the outcome, or did that voice in your head, the one we know as the sky fairy, tell you the answer.

    Go away, retire, and keep schtum.
    There, end of issue.

  20. What a horrible, horrible man.

    And to think he was once Archbishop of Canterbury.

    I’m appalled and incensed with rage after reading these comments, which are not only massively offensive to gay people, but also to Jews, Holocaust survivors, and indeed anyone who possesses a brain in their head.

    Go away and shut up Carey, you nasty, cretinous man.

  21. He’s drunk. Or mad. Or ga-ga.

  22. Gotta love Carey – he’s like your old racist granddad.

  23. It’s about time some mainstream politicians stood up and denounced Carey as the out-of-touch dinousaur he is.

  24. Carey’s words…

    “Why does it feel to us that our cultural homeland and identity is being plundered?”

    Yeah, that doesn’t sound like Hitler at all.

    Well done for comparing your “persecution” to the jews in the Holocaust though. It must take a special kind of priestly humility to think that way.

  25. Paul Hewett 9 Oct 2012, 7:55am

    Dear Lord Carey, re names: poof, faggot, queer, bender, arse-bandit, etc. Check your memory. As for polygamy, check your facts.

  26. Enjoy your applause today, Carey, because in the future you won’t be remembered as one of the good guys.

    His comments are offensive to so many groups. Has he forgotten what actually happened in the thirties and forties, or is too senile to remember?

  27. What a repulsive little man!

  28. Har Davids 9 Oct 2012, 10:51am

    Guess Mr. Carey is running out of any reasonable sounding arguments against gay marriage and is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Behind the innocently sounding ‘gay marriage’ lies a world of destruction for the opponents of equality. Once gays have their marriage, they’ll start persecuting their old foes in some unpleasant way. Too bad the holy Lord didn’t go into specifics.

    On the other hand, the man could be just bonkers.

  29. What a disgustingly vile comparison to make! How dare he compare his pathetic ‘suffering’ to that of the millions of people who died in the Holocaust. That is beyond offensive – and it’s completely unacceptable, in my opinion.

    David Cameron, as PM, should strongly reprimand him for saying such a disgusting thing.

    The only good that I hope can come out of such an abhorrent statement is that all the fence-sitters baulk at allying themselves with such a heartless, despicable bigot and realise that most of those trying to prevent equal marriage are very far from ‘christian’ and severely lacking in humanity.

  30. I attended this event yesterday, It was well planned, attended by people from all races, faiths and backgrounds and the points made were extremely valid.

    1. Dave North 9 Oct 2012, 12:47pm

      Yes.

      The points made are bringing equal marriage many more supporters after hearing the filth spouted by your lot.

      Most decent people cannot quite believe the sick venom spewed at this event.

      Indeed.

      We could not have given the equal marriage campaign a bigger boost if we tried ourselves.

      Well done. Not well planned or thought out.

      1. I was at the meeting and there wasn’t a ‘protest’ outside anywhere, photos to prove it. I counted about five ugly people, who got put some cross on the lawn, which were too far a distance to see and later fell over and were not noticed by anyone. They must of got tired as they were not there at the end when everyone left.

        It was far better on the inside. The meeting was very successfully and well attended and good points were made.

        Equal marriage will not happen, Northern Ireland, Australia and now England.

        1. That There Other David 9 Oct 2012, 3:41pm

          If that last sentence sums up what you came away with from that meeting they must have been serving you all rohypnol with the tea and biscuits. Northern Ireland will be forced to have marriage equality once England, Scotland and Wales have it. Even if the “Nasty” Tories somehow prevail over their own leadership’s wishes it will happen the next time there’s a Labour government.

          Also, what exactly does Australia have to do with this anyway? If we’re allowed to pull up random countries to back up a UK based debate can I mention what’s going on in New Zealand and France?

        2. FULLY AGREE! NI, Australia, England … and the world must follow!!

          1. That There Other David 9 Oct 2012, 11:57pm

            Oh look, a sock puppet.

            Do you think this is the first time anyone here’s been on the Internet?

    2. That There Other David 9 Oct 2012, 3:42pm

      How you must have applauded Lord Carey as he insulted minority after minority!! You must feel very proud.

      1. Dave North 9 Oct 2012, 4:09pm

        He managed to insult Jews, Gays, the disabled and just about everyone that died or lost someone in that war.

        Hope you are proud, but do feel free to nail your colours to the wrong side of history.

        1. Dave North 9 Oct 2012, 4:10pm

          Oops.. Meant for Matthew……

  31. Disgusting, the only neo-naz1 behaviour being displayed is by Carey and the religious nutters.

  32. Cardinal Capone 9 Oct 2012, 11:59am

    Free speech and Christian tradition in England:

    “The common law offences of blasphemy and blasphemous libel were abolished by the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008.
    The offence of blasphemy was originally part of canon law. In the 17th century, blasphemy was declared a common law offence by the Court of King’s Bench, punishable by the common law courts.

    In 1656, the Quaker James Naylor was sentenced to flogging, branding and the piercing of his tongue by a red-hot poker by the Second Protectorate Parliament.

    From the 16th century to the mid-19th century, blasphemy against Christianity was held as an offence against common law. Blasphemy was also used as a legal instrument to persecute atheists, Unitarians, and others. The Methodist Church and the BBC said it appeared to apply only to beliefs of the Church of England.” – wiki

  33. Cardinal Capone 9 Oct 2012, 12:20pm

    If they really believe in free speech, then why didn’t they invite any supporters of equal marriage, such as nobel prizewinner Archbishop Demond Tutu, to speak?

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 9 Oct 2012, 2:17pm

      Because religious nutters don’t believe in democracy in which all people should be equal before the law. The mainstream so called ‘christian’ cults aren’t democratic either since they discriminate against divorced heteros remarrying in their churches and gay clergy must make a solemn promise to remain celibate. That’s why they want no opposition yesterday. Let’s call it what it was, a hate rally.

    2. Why didn’t they make Tutu archbishop of Canterbury? Or even the pope! He strikes me as being more authentically christian than either Lord Carey or Benedict XVI.

  34. “He continued: “Coloured folks relationships are not the same as white folks relationships and should not be put on the same level. Why does it feel to us that our cultural homeland and identity is being plundered?””

  35. well according to the bible polygamous marriage is fine, the old testament said it was at least and the new testament only specificly says church leaders should only have 1 wife as to devote most of their time to the church itself

  36. Just your typical evangelical bigot. Put in place by the dreadful grocers daughter to punish the Church. No good as Archbishop and no good now. What has the poor old C of E done to deserve them. First a bigot then a twit.

  37. Wasn’t it centuries of anti-semitic rhetoric by christian priests that laid the fertile ground for the holocaust. But then ‘Lord’ Carey is so intellectually challenged he probably has no sense of irony.

  38. MamaMeggie 10 Oct 2012, 3:21pm

    Lord Carey, we kow all about name calling – ALL LGBT people know about name calling. we are on the receiving end.Believe me, ‘bigot’ isn’t name calling, its truth.

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