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UK: BACP warns against gay conversion therapy

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  1. David Turner - Baptist Pastor 2 Oct 2012, 12:32pm

    The same should apply to Christian doctors who use eletronic shock therapy on gays to try to change them.

    1. Does that still happen ? In the UK?

      1. Probably, religion seems to get away with anything nasty, whether it is child abuse or denying gay people equality.

      2. No. And it was either electro-shock as part of aversion therapy (an alternative to which was the use of nauseating drugs), or the even worse electro-convulsive shock, which has permanent effects on memory and was a form of torture widely used in NHS mental hospitals on homosexual people until the 1970s, and transsexual people up until the 1990s, mainly on the pretext of curing the depression that was mainly due to the incarceration and discrimination but was intended to reprogramme the brain. Both required a doctor’s prescription, and probably presence too, which would be considered unethical now, in the UK.

    2. Not just christians peddling in this quasi science occupation as “converters” , i had a really bad experience at school where a muslim counsellor at school(i was around 150who tried to molest my inherent sexuality with psycho babble abuse.

  2. Parents or therapists who subject teenagers to conversion “therapy” are sexually abusing and torturing these kids, conversion “therapy” is not only sexual abuse, it’s also psychological and spiritual abuse.

    1. You are exactly right that it sexual abuse to try to convert either sexual orientation or sex or gender identity of any child or adult, but that is not something generally recognised.

  3. Robert in S. Kensington 2 Oct 2012, 2:56pm

    In my view, it is the so called ‘christian’ therapists and doctors who believe in the now debunked ex-gay conversion therapies who are in dire need of therapy. Wasn’t it Karl Marx who once said that religion is the opiate of the people? He was ahead of his time.

  4. All forms of the evil “conversion thereby” which twists mother nature’s children should be outright banned by decree!

    1. sorry meant evil “conversion therapy” spelt Therapy wrong in last comment.

  5. Julia Ford 2 Oct 2012, 3:55pm

    Maybe some nut somewhere should try to convert straight people for a change. Just a thought.

  6. This move from the BACP can be added to the hundreds of statements and warnings from professional organizations in the UK against ‘gay cure’ treatments. Among those organizations are the British Psychological Society, Royal College of Psychiatrists, United Kingdom Council for Psychotherapy, British Medical Association and of course a diverse range of others.

    I sincerely hope that this will drive the whole concept of ‘gay cures’ in our country further into the dust.

    Whatever the case, seeing as the recent Californian law was heavily based on the fact that so many American organizations came out against ‘gay cure’ therapies, I think the British government would also have solid grounds on which to introduce the same restrictions.

    Lets hope :D

    1. One would hope that UK law would ban conversion therapy on trans children too – a major omission from the California law, given such therapy was originally developed in California, using US government money, to supposedly cure transsexual children on the basis that they were extreme homosexuals.

      The fact that professional bodies have condemned anti-day therapy whilst remaining silent about anti-trans therapy only indicates their transphobia, not least that of their LGB members who have usually been a the forefront of the campaigns. The fact that the American Psychiatric Association appointed a practitioner of anti-trans therapy on children below the age of 10 to chair their committee writing their revised “DSM”, thus ensuring such children would be retained as a mentally disordered category and available for such treatment, really evidences that.

  7. GulliverUK 3 Oct 2012, 1:02am

    I want to see it made illegal here, and frankly if all the professional organisations are telling their members to never offer it, making it illegal should affect anyone.

  8. The practice of gay conversation therapy is also largely supported by the fringe parts of the conservative movement… it is safe to assume most of the targeted potential customers are in this demographic.

  9. Hi,
    I am a non-religious gay male who recently found out about this type of therapy.

    I am 25, independent and in a good career. I haven’t ever spoken to anyone about it before but having seen some footage of the type of therapy that can be given I am quite curious to try it.

    If there is a way to do it and people like me who are not “vulnerable” would like to seek this help should it not be possible?

    Surely it would be better to have legitimate channels for people such as myself rather than banning the practise. Driving this underground is likely to mean the only people available to help are the hard-line religious nut jobs as opposed to an unbiased professional.

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