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California bans teenage gay ‘cure’ therapy

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  1. Garry Cassell 1 Oct 2012, 6:01pm

    Anyone who practices this type of quakery should be jailed for life…including those who advocate it like Lord carey…and all those other hateful religious(so-called) people..

    1. Spanner1960 2 Oct 2012, 9:22am

      “Quackery” dear.
      The Quakers are nice people.

      1. And they make some damn fine oatmeal.

  2. This is great news!

    The American Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association and the Pan-American Health Organization are just three of the many professional groups who have made it clear that there is simply no sufficient evidence that ‘gay cures’ work, and there is quite a lot of evidence that they can cause harm.

    If consenting adults want to engage in this largely pointless practice then they can do so, but we should all make sure that minors aren’t vulnerable to it. Laws like this should be emulated all over the world.

    ‘Gay cures’ are finally in a state of retreat – lets press it home :)

  3. Tom Cotner 1 Oct 2012, 6:58pm

    It’s about time someone showed a bit of intelligence and sanity. The very idea that one could be able to change his/her identity has been, for far too long, the cudgel of the religious who wish to impose their own wishy-washy beliefs upon the rest of us.
    I congratulate the Governor, and all those in the California legislature who helped to bring this about.

    1. Just a shame they decided to continue to allow the same abuse when it is attempting to change children’s sex- or gender-identity. Even more so that supposedly “LGBT” groups largely seem fine with that too.

  4. Handsome more good news. The BACP have finally caught up with the enlightened world in banning gay conversion therapy as unethical… at long last!

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/oct/01/conversion-therapy-gay-patients-unethical?newsfeed=true

  5. The victims of these witch doctors will be bullied into silence, moreso than they are already. And many extremist christian communities will mysteriously ‘forget’ to announce and/or adhere the legislation. The article says nothing about how the law will be enforced, or how those that break it will be punished.
    The change will come into actual law several months from now, and there is also the likelihood that it will take a lot longer for this change in law to be known of by all those it is meant to protect.
    The worry I have is that these are merely words on paper at the moment, by the time this turns into real action, how many more victims will there be?

    1. Even when it is observed trans children will continue to be abused using the same techniques – a major omission from the California law, given such therapy was originally developed in California, using US government money, to supposedly cure transsexual children on the basis that they were extreme homosexuals.

  6. mechtheist 2 Oct 2012, 6:42am

    Now if we could only get them to recognize religious indoctrination is emotional abuse when practiced on children

    1. Spanner1960 2 Oct 2012, 9:22am

      It’s emotional abuse at any age.

  7. This is the sort of progress we should be applauding because it has evolved to a point of mass critical opinion where the law had to act based on both sides of the issue having been debated and argued fully over time.

    That is the approach those advocating equal marriage rights should be adopting:- the winning over of minds through debating the facts in favour of same-sex marriage, while allowing opposing viewpoints to be equally heard.

    If the gay lobby presents the facts rationally and persuasively enough then critical mass opinion will force through legislation.

    At the moment, the bulldozing through of equal marriage rights is akin to taking a sledgehammer to a peanut, and power through force is ultimately destructive, not productive.

    1. Progress.. was that supposed to be funny? This is a very very sad day for society. Homosexuality is wrong!

      1. 1. It Is Not Marriage

        Calling something marriage does not make it marriage. Marriage has always been a covenant between a man and a woman which is by its nature ordered toward the procreation and education of children and the unity and wellbeing of the spouses.

        The promoters of same-sex “marriage” propose something entirely different. They propose the union between two men or two women. This denies the self-evident biological, physiological, and psychological differences between men and women which find their complementarity in marriage. It also denies the specific primary purpose of marriage: the perpetuation of the human race and the raising of children.

        Two entirely different things cannot be considered the same thing.

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        2. It Violates Natural Law

        Marriage is not just any relationship between human beings. It is a relationship rooted in human nature and thus governed by natural law.

        1. Well done. You’ve memorized the National Organization for Marriage’s talking points very well. The band of bigots will be very proud of you.

  8. Julia Ford 2 Oct 2012, 9:23pm

    It seems to me that some straight people need a cure.

  9. I’ve been trying to reply to Merlyn’s comment for 20 minutes now, but it won’t work, so:-

    Meanwhile there is equally no true evidence that sex- or gender identity can be changed either, but those same bodies say nothing against the same techniques being used against trans children.

    By cleverly defining “Gender Identity Disorder of Childhood” so widely that anyone who doesn’t abide by gender stereotypes is included, they sweep in many L&G children, who, when they turn out to simply be L or G (as they would have done anyway) they then claim to have cured.

    The most prominent psychologist using that against children under 10 is actually the chair of the “sex and gender disorders” committee of the review of the highly influential psychiatric Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, ensuring that such children – including L&G children despite this law – remain eligible for his and others’ clinics for at least another decade.

    1. Interesting. So the pre-moderation algorithms block all replies to some comments. Without and indication of course. I think I would regard the resulting willful waste of readers’ time as abusive.

  10. Gay Activist Paul Mitchell 10 Oct 2012, 4:16am

    This law is the first of its kind and even the US state of New Jersey is proposing it as well. In California Five other LGBT friendly laws were amended, passed by both houses, enrolled, engrossed and signed straight into law!

    All these laws become effective (as most laws do in California) on the 1 January, 2013.

    http://www.eqca.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=kuLRJ9MRKrH&b=7942579&ct=12212939

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