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Chick-fil-A says its donations had been ‘mischaracterised for many months’

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  1. It makes no difference whether you give a penny or billions, or whether you tried to stop getting involved. The issue is with the principle, and the message, not the amount of money or what you did after giving it.

  2. they weren’t dragged into it their CEO put them into it time and time again if theres anyone to blame for that it is him not acting with the businesses best interests at heart.

  3. Some sources affirm this affair is all but clear. Chick-fil-A is playing PR games and hasn’t yet confirmed if they are going to stop funneling money to anti-gay groups. So nothing has changed really.

  4. Let’s see where Chick-Fil-A gives their monies if Mr Romney is elected President. My thinking says …anti-gay groups are the winners.

  5. Let’s see where Chick-Fil-A gives their monies if Mr Romney is elected President. My thinking says …anti-gay groups are the winners.

  6. billywingartenson 21 Sep 2012, 6:31am

    Obiously they played the old game. Said they would stop funding these hate groups, and then meally mouthed changed their story

    its the same kind of game described by ” the bad is more powerful then the good”

    In this case its reversed – they say something good, get lots of attention, then slyly say the opposite. Counting on the media to have lost interest.

    WE shall see.

    The chance of them changing their tune is Zero. Much of xtianity has been a curse for all of its history.

  7. A dying business clutching at straws

  8. Spanner1960 21 Sep 2012, 7:20am

    The usual reactionaries on here I see.
    I see a lot of people that are anti same-sex marriage, for whatever reason, but primarily religious ones. Many on here and elsewhere automatically assume these people are homophobic as a result, but I am coming to the conclusion this isn’t always the case.

    Everybody has lists and priorities in their lives, and some things they consider more important than others. It’s like, for instance, I support the Tory party, but I am dead against their stance on the EU, and my priority is Europe, so I will not vote for them.

    I am beginning to think Chick-fil-a have tried to do the right thing, but might have screwed up down the line and now realise how damaging it is both for LGBT people, and their own business.

    They of all people should know about ‘The road to hell being paved with good intentions’. I guess time will tell.

    1. That There Other David 21 Sep 2012, 11:19am

      Being anti same-sex marriage is one thing. Actively attempting to prevent same-sex marriages from occurring is another. Anybody who lobbies against, campaigns against, or funds those that do is inserting their personal beliefs into the lives of other adults, a place where those personal beliefs have no right to be.

      We don’t receive tax breaks for being gay. We don’t receive extra services from government or other public bodies (in fact, quite the opposite). We follow the same laws our straight counterparts follow. We therefore have the right to expect that the state treats us the same way as it treats our straight brothers and sisters.

      Counter to that all we hear is vague arguments against, including orthodox religious arguments from faiths we don’t follow, all designed to prevent us from being treated equally under the law. Maybe you don’t like it, but that is discrimination, it is bigotry, and applied here it most definitely it is homophobia.

      1. Spanner1960 21 Sep 2012, 2:27pm

        Sorry, but playing Devil’s advocate here, if I am anti something, of course I am going to try and prevent it, either directly or indirectly by funding others.

        Chick-fil-a is a privately owned company and has donated a lot of it’s profits to good causes, along with some debatably bad ones, but they are subject to the same laws and taxes as the rest of us, they are not churches.

        I’m the first one to support equality, and I am totally for the whole marriage thing, but the point is, this is out in the public arena, and it’s us versus them. Either we live in a democratic society, or we don’t.

        You can’t claim to win one victory by numbers, and then when you lose another try to trump the decision with the human rights and equalities card.

        1. That There Other David 21 Sep 2012, 4:34pm

          The equality card should always trump the numbers in a modern democracy, especially one that bills itself as the Land of the Free. The state’s primary objective is to protect all of its citizens from harm, and this includes the rights of minorities from being eroded by majority vote.

          The fact that the anti- brigade can only fall back on Bronze Age legends, slippery slope fallacies and downright lies to back up their position proves they have no logical argument against equality, yet they still campaign against it. That is the worst kind of bigotry, drawn from a position of wilful ignorance, and whilst they are free to act like that they cannot expect others not to call them out on it. They are bigots. It’s a label they should man up and own.

          As for Chick-Fil-A and their actions, time will tell. One thing is for sure though, people are going to be watching.

      2. “if I am anti something, of course I am going to try and prevent it,”

        Possibly, but someone can be ‘anti’ something and vocal about their anti-ness and still not have any desire to try to prevent it or deprive others of it – especially if it doesn’t affect them personally.

  9. KIm Berlin 21 Sep 2012, 8:05am

    I wish we had this food chain here in Berlin, then I would be able to stop buying their product.

  10. “Back in July, Dan Cathy, COO of Chick-Fil-A said that the company were against equal marriage rights for gay people. He told the Baptist Press that the company was “guilty as charged”, when asked about its perceived opposition to equal marriage.”
    Sounds to me as if it’s their own CEO that kept bringing them back to the political debate, so it looks pretty disingenous of them to claim they were caught in the crossfire of the culture wars.
    If you actively seek out hate groups to fund and then tell repoters that anti-gay lobbying forms an integral part of your company’s policy, don’t be surprised if they take you at your word.
    They had their chance to drop their homophobic sponsorship back in July, so why has it taken them nearly 3 months?

    1. COO, Chief Operations Officer, not CEO (Chief Executive Officer). The COO of a company handles the day to day running of a company, and reports to the CEO (though the COO wouldn’t exactly be allowed to do something the CEO disagreed with).

      1. Fair point, though either way this fish is rotting from the head.

      2. Spanner1960 21 Sep 2012, 3:39pm

        It’s actually irrelevant as you will see it is a family run business, and it’s full of the same people from the top down.

        1. That There Other David 21 Sep 2012, 4:41pm

          It is a franchised business. The franchise owners will be the ones seeing their numbers down, and they will be letting HQ know exactly what they think of the company’s involvement in religious politics. One has to wonder how many of those outlets will become KFCs next time the franchise contract is up for renewal.

  11. Bit of a result, no?

  12. Talk with your Wallet. It shouts very loud when combined with others.

    If you agree then buy there if you don’t, don’t buy there, let the customers decide, if they fall by the wayside, they were wrong.

    I for one will not buy anything from them.

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