Congratualations to gay hating Christians out there, your hate campaign has successfully poisoned a young mind to this level. You must be so proud of yourselves today.
The thing that really annoys me as there will be people out there who are happy with this, it’s sick.
That’s right, blame the Christians, it’s all their fault!
What irrational, delirious, paranoid, BIGOTED bullsh*t!
Who’s to say the killer wasn’t high on crystal meth (the drug du jour among gay men in NYC) and in a demented, psychotic rage, or simply in eternal conflict with his own internalised homophobia?
It seems blaming Christians is par for the course for hysterical, reactionary gays these days, who themselves clearly have a good few demons that need exorcising.
Perhaps the local vicar is the first, not last, person ranting militant gay bigots like you need to see…
If you had read the article you would see that he had very simmilar views with all the abrahamic sects
…you are despicable and one can only guess that you are a bigoted homophobic troll. The murderers statement about ridding the world of the “virus of Homosexuality” is taken directly from xtian teaching and has been used many times in an effort to demonise Gay people. Christianity is a damnable creed and the soonest it is eradicated from the world the better for mankind. You, assh0le, deserve to spend the rest of you despicable life in prison as should the majority of xtians I have had the bad luck to come in contact with. ….. Stu had the measure of you some months ago and the rest of us on this site now thoroughly agree……
And what is more, bigot Archbishop Rowan Williams admitted recently as did his fellow bigot Bishop Sentamu that the CoE had done some very bad things to gay people for centuries. Yet no apology or taking responsibility for it has ensued. Ditto, the rottweiler in the Vatican and his evil cult, the protectors of equally evil molestation of boys and girls and covering up or denying any wrongdoing.
The ex-gay ministries are just as culpable and hate groups such as the Christian Institute no better. None of them understand that words have consequences. None of them can claim to be christians when they judge or condemn LGBT people. Jesus Christ never did.
Hang on a minute, “gay hating Christians” don’t make you or I go around murdering people to erase the earth of the “virus of homosexuality”!
Combinations of factors undoubtedly combined to lead this man to such a tragic, barbaric act, and e do not as yet know what all those factors are.
His religious upbringing was just one of those factors but not all.
If you are going to be simplistic and boil everything thing don to “the Christians made me to it, guv” logic, then you really have lost all touch with reality.
The only despicable tell around here for grasping to such tenuous, bigoted (i.e. anti-Christian) assaults is yourself, Padders.
…Lets extrapolate then shall we; What were the “combinations of factors” that made the Crusaders go to Palestine and wage a detestable war on the innocent people of Jerusalem and the “holy land” They certainly weren’t saving the UK from “Arab terrorism” ((% of the inhabitants had never heard of Europe never mind England, nor indeed had most of Richard Plantagenets soldiers, yet the all went there because of what they had read in a detestable old book compiled from the oral tradition of illiterate desert goatherds in the Sinai 3000 years before So yes,xtianity does make people do evil things.
. Need I mention the Inquisition, The Salem Witch Trials, The Monkey Trials, The Moors Massacre in Spain, and of course the daddy of them all the Rape of the Innocents, the infamous rape of the worlds children by the clergy of the damnable cult of Rome!
Resorting to name-calling and bull sh*tt#ng obfuscation doesn’t help you win arguments Padders.
They only make you look like the rabid-mouthed, spineless PC Philistine you are who constantly swerves and shimmies to evade the truth while clinging limpet-like to their jaundiced world view.
“In an interview with a Portuguese newspaper near his hometown, Seabra described himself as religious and shy. He’s also an admitted mama’s boy, confessing his mother was responsible for his modeling career.”
Thx, rehan.. A good insight into this guy’s mindset.. Yes, disturbed is putting it midly.
“On a trip together?” I’d guess it was an acid trip from the sounds of it, a very bad acid trip.
You are as bad as the shytehead above. If there had been drugs involved I think the police would have mentioned it , don’t you think, idiot…
How do you know they didn’t mention the involvement of drugs, Padders?
The guy was clearly psychologically and possibly psychotically disturbed to commit such an act, serving as a catalyst through which he unleashed his demons associated with his internalised homophobia.
Perhaps he was bi polar and receiving a cocktail of mind numbing prescription drugs, who knows?
The cause of any psychological problem is deep-rooted and intensely complex, though it suits the reactionaries on here to use Christianity as a crutch for all our psychological problems when our own homophobia, sexual degradation and unacceptance of one another is often the underlying reason for so much unhappiness and self-loathing among gay men.
……When you got up this morning did you leave half your brain on the Pillow ..”How do you know they didn’t mention the involvement of drugs, Padders?” you asked, stupidly. He would have had a greatly enhanced, chance of acquittal had he been able to claim drug induced and or that the older man had given him drugs. However blood test would have dispelled that notion so he had to pretend to be or is genuinely insane….
he wouldn’t be facing murder if he could prove that he only did it because he was under the influence of drugs administered to him. They would have picked a lesser charge in the interests of “fairness” to plead “insanity” is a HUGE leap and this kid must be hugely screwed up.
… and could not control the virus of the spread of homosexuality to the world
Straight from the homophobic xtian handbook of “How to be a bigot and and assh0le”
Locking this kook up will DEFINITELY make the world a better place!!
Demons ,Virus !!!!??? The christian fundies are the real demons and virus here !!!! They have brainwashed the children,the poor,the old and the women and this exactly the result you get.The preach self-hate with extreme determination and this time they claimed 2 victims
Yes, being born into religion is tantamount to brainwashing, and some of the vilest and most evil deeds have been committed in its name.
But in seeking retribution and damning Christians to hell makes us the same as its worst zealots and fundamentalists.
An eye for an eye ends up leaving the whole world blind.
Forgiveness and engaging in debate with our perceived enemies is the way out of the vicious circle of hatred that many on here seek to perpetuate.
The end goal should be to seek a formal apology from the world’s churches for centuries of persecution against gay people, and an acceptance and understanding from them that gays must be treated equally in law and have the same rights as the mainstream populace.
….”engaging in debate with our perceived enemies” perhaps you could give some pointers as to how one can have a reasoned debate with those who have abandoned reason, as in the case of those who follow the Abrahamic cults, especially xtians and muslims………
I think the place to start should be with the Christian church, wherein many Christians (60% according to a report published on PN a year ago) supported equal rights for gay people.
If we engaged with the moderate majority of Christians who have no problem with us to ring pressure within their Church that forces an apology and a line in the sand, that old then bring pressure on other churches to do likewise.
But that also means earning their respect and inspiring their support through our own actions and choices and tidying up our on back yard:- the objective being that should one of their own kids turn out to be gay, they would have no reason whatsoever to fear the world that their child would eventually be stepping into.
It sounds to me like a schizophrenic / psychotic incident. Very sad, but it is very common for people with mental illness to become overwhelmed with occult or religious delusions.
This is actually one instance where the church probably had nothing to do with the poor man’s condition.
I’m inclined to agree with you here, though I wouldn’t go as far as to say the church had nothing to do with it.
One of my gay friends is a lapsed Catholic and is prone to bi-polar episodes, and quite often when he’s having a bi-polar swing he starts to question his sexuality.
The reasons he gives are almost verbatim the kind of homophobic BS he was filled up with athis Catholic school. If you ask him whether he’s actually physically or emotionally attracted to the opposite sex you get an evasive answer.
By NARTH standards he’s probably ‘cured’ at least for the duration of his bi-polar swing, but he’s been institutionalised 4 times. It’s a pity that after all these years he still can’t shake the catholic guilt.
I have a similar bipolar friend with serious psychotic problems, and he’s never set foot in a church and is patently anti-religious, but I still found him on occasions with crucifixes all over the house and visions of demons etc. It’s simply one of those things.
Sounds to me more like he’s jumped on the loony bus in the hope it will get him out of a hole. I’d be interested to see whether there is any other evidence of psychotic disorder that was apparent in any other areas of their trip or whether more as I suspect a little princess didn’t get what they wanted and flipped out.
Thank you for your armchair psychiatric report, you sanctimonious fckwit.
Try showing a little compassion for those suffering from mental illness.
He sounds disturbed ! But what do you expect from a 21 year old who dating a 65 year old ! Past 50 most gays accept that those who they pick up are just there for the money ! Its fine . . . its the way the world is . But the young men who do this are often have problems that are not only financial ! Older men should beware of their younger bedmates and treat them accordingly ! To my mind holidaying with your gigolo is just asking for trouble !
….. if it weren’t church induced directly it certainly had church influence. Where else did you think he gained the concept that homosexuality was wrong, never mind a “virus”?
Given his race and name I am willing he was schooled entirely in a Roman cult school and probably brought up in a heavily Roman cult influenced home.
There is no other organizational influence on the worlds children at the moment than the detestable cults of religion.
There is pseudo-religious hocus-pocus and gobbledygook all over the media, from horror movies, to comics, to books to all manner of nutcase spiritualism and occult topics.
You may possibly be right, but don’t automatically make assumptions, and even if they hadn’t, his psychosis could have latched onto anything. There is simply no ability to reason with people in that condition.
There are many negative representations of gay people that extend way beyond religion, Padders, but at least you are conceding that religion per se may not have been the only cause for this guy flipping.
By the way, apologies for not keeping a closer eye on my spellchecker:- will promise to read posts more carefully before sending in future…