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  1. mark young 5 Sep 2012, 2:15pm

    ha. and the gay tories think they’re smart. idiots.

    1. What comment does LGBTory have to make about the appointment of Maria Miller as Equalities Minister?

      They will not comment as they are a meaningless PR exercise to disguise the horrific bigotry of the Law and Justice Tories.

    2. The correct term for ‘gay Tory’ is ‘gay Uncle Tom’ or ‘gay quisling’

      1. Spanner1960 6 Sep 2012, 3:29pm

        Why? Just because they may not have a great record with LGBT rights doesn’t mean they should be dismissed, any more than voting for Labour who whilst being more supportive of us managed to fck up the entire country.

        One cannot view politics with tunnel vision.
        Try looking at the bigger picture.

  2. It’s also worth noting that May was supported by the very able Lynn Featherstone.

    Helen Grant who replaces Featherstone is unknown quantity as she doesn’t have a voting record on LGBT issues (according the Public Whip). The situation seems more precarious than in 2010.

    1. Homophobic bigot Theresa May was not allowed get her bigotted paws on the Equality brief because that would simply have been hilarious.

      And it’s equally hilarious to have a vile bigot like Maria Miller being the equalities minister

  3. Given her past voting record on LGBT matters, I am struggling to see how she will be any good on other equality matters.

    1. She won’t be any good.

      This appointment is David Cameron’s sneaky way of telling the bigot wing of his party that he has no intention of legalising equal civil rights for the LGBT community.

      Maria Miller is a bigot – how could she be an appropriate equialities minister?

  4. Sister Mary Clarence 5 Sep 2012, 2:40pm

    All this came up over Teresa May, and she has certainly had an epiphany. I’m sure Cameron will not at this late stage in the marriage equality programme have introduced anyone who is going to torpedo his plans.

    1. GulliverUK 5 Sep 2012, 3:26pm

      May did have an epiphany, and she said on Question Time that she had changed her view on adoption also, and that she believed it was right that LGBT had adoption rights. For me, as a vocal critic of hers at the time she took over, I’ve had an epiphany too, and I believe she now gets it, largely through, as she said, knowing couples and people who are gay.

      You know, that always seems to happen, when people know you and already like you, when you do tell them you’re gay they get it. Visibility is everything, which is why I have no truck with people who say we shouldn’t have Pride and should just “blend in”. We’ll be able to “blend in” when minds have sufficiently changed and your sexuality is irrelevant, and about as interesting to others as your eye colour.

      1. Spanner1960 6 Sep 2012, 3:32pm

        I was going to say the same thing.
        One never knows the real ins & outs of a subject until you are thrown into the middle of it, and many hostile politicians have emerged enlightened once they understand the realities many of us face.

        I guess time will tell.

  5. She is my local MP. She’s good with disability, which is what I believe she was in charge of before… but after I heard she voted against same sex marriage etc, I admit I lost a fair amount of respect for her. It made me wonder if she would still be willing to help me if she realised that I wasn’t as straight as she likes people to be.

    1. of interesting read then for Mrs Miller then would be

  6. My partner and I met Maria campaigning for the seat outside Sainsburys in Basingstoke during the last election. She ran away when asked difficult questions about Identity cards and trans people.

    Will she be Out4Marriage? I’m looking forward to a video…?

    1. GulliverUK 5 Sep 2012, 3:28pm

      If she doesn’t produce a video very quickly we’ll know exactly where she stands. I don’t know what we can do, but it isn’t nothing – we can do something to show our feelings.

      1. The whole Out 4 Marriage campaign is partly owned by the owner of Pink News – hence Pink News constantly promoting the campaign

        People need to realise that recording an Out 4 Marriage video is nice PR but has no practical benefit to anyone.

        Instead of recording an Out 4 Marriage video I want to see an MP bring in a private member’s bill on the subject of marriage equality.

        Becaise Maria Miller’s appointment indicates that we will still be subject to marriage apartheid after the next election.

  7. Helpful that PN has confirmed Maria Miller is pro-equal marriage.

    1. So what – a homophobic bigot like Maria Miller is not fit for purpose as Equalities minister.
      Marriage is not the only issue facing our community

  8. This does seem like a bizarre appointment from Cameron but I am prepared to wait and see what happens. I remember similar criticises being levied at Theresa May but she ended up being a really good equalities minister, putting marriage equality on the agenda.

    Maria Miller needs to explain her self and see what happens. As for Helen grant, I think she will be a passionate supporter for marriage equality – it is what I am expecting. On her twitter feed she has retweented a tweet from Stonewall which said “Congrats to Maria Miller & @HelenGrantMP who’ll lead govt equality agenda. Looking forward to working with them to secure #equalmarriage”. Appears positive to me.

    1. “I remember similar criticises being levied at Theresa May but she ended up being a really good equalities minister”

      Theresa May was not the equalities minister. Her revolting homophobia made her completely unsuitable for the role. The Equalities minister was Lynne Featherstone.

      Maria Miller is a bigot.

      Her appointment as equalities minister is as clear a statement that David Cameron can make that he has no intention of legislating for equality.

      The same hateful, dishonest, bigoted Tories as they have always been.

  9. “pace of change around all the equality issues over the last decade or so has been incredibly impressive” – Blunt

    What Crispin Blunt failed to say is that these advances were only proposed and implemented by the previous administration. The Tory party, of which Crispin is a member of, hasn’t advanced one iota for gay people, instead they sought to block and disrupt everything along the way, as they still do.

    1. Sister Mary Clarence 5 Sep 2012, 4:10pm

      Treaty of Amsterdam luvvie …. we got nothing under the last government that wasn’t required under the Treaty of Amsterdam …. hence no marriage equality.

      1. Still better than what the Tories last gave us – Section 28.

        1. and removal of historic convictions, threatening to remove aid from homophobic countries

    2. Spanner1960 6 Sep 2012, 3:35pm

      What utter CRAP!
      The Tories have pushed forward same sex marriage in two years whilst it took Labour 13 just to get CP’s, and even then only after the ECHR kicked their arses into touch.

      FFS quit with the Tory bashing. Try looking at the positives instead of constantly maligning them and you might see some progress.

  10. All is not lost, still a MP income is £64Kpa plus allowances and premiums of state!,

  11. Pavlos Prince of Greece 5 Sep 2012, 3:42pm

    No question, that Mr. Cameron has understand, that the nomination of Mrs. Miler will bring many concerns in the LGBT community, but he has approve it regardless of nothing. I think, all its clear.

    1. Sister Mary Clarence 5 Sep 2012, 4:32pm

      To be fair though we have absolutely no idea how she will perform.

      What we do know though is that marriage equality has been something Cameron has been heavily pushing, so logically he isn’t going to put someone in post who is going to try to block him.

      Secondly, he’s going to need our votes next time round, so it makes a great deal of sense to keep us on board, and marriage equality is his ace card in doing that

      1. Pavlos Prince of Greece 5 Sep 2012, 5:46pm

        I hope, Sister! But my faith is weaker and weaker…

  12. “Mrs May subsequently demonstrated her commitment to supporting gay rights by recording an Out4Marriage video earlier this year. ”

    What complete and utter bulls***.

    I know that the owner of Pink News set up the Out for Marriage Campaign, but to claim that recording a video somehow cancels out Theresa May’s appallingly homophobic voting record is both dishonest and insulting.

    By making moronic claims like the one above Pink News is trivialising homophobia.

    Aside from recording a nice little PR video what practical steps has the homophobic bigot Theresa May done to advance LGBT rights.

    That’s right – nothing.

    1. You’re right dAVID. Theresa May will always be a homophobe until the day she gets in her Delorean and pops back to the future to amend her voting record on gay rights.

      Publicly changing one’s mind just is not enough. We demand time travel and we demand it now!!!! If not that then a pound of flesh!

      1. Don’t be such an idiot.

        Theresa May (or David Cameron) can spout all the meaningless PR nonsense they want about supporting equality, but unless it is backed up by action then it is meaningless.

        The Tories have been in power for over 2 years, In that time there has been absolutely zero progress on marriage equality.

        We’ve had an offensive public consultation on our rights (the only time in living memory that the equal civil rights of a minority group have been subject to a public consultation).

        We have been told we will have equality by 2015.

        But what is wrong with 2012?

        We have no timetable,

        And the appointment of a bigot like Maria Miller is a good indicator of the importance in which the Homophobic Tory Party regards our equal civil rights,

        1. you have been told upteen times that the House of Lords can reject the bill 2 times and delay it for a year 2015 is the estimate taking this into account it is a worst case scenario. With an unelected upper house this would happen under labour as well we are the one of two only countries in the world that have religious leaders in unelected seats (the other is IRAN).

          Religious leaders need to be booted out of the upper house because their fairy tales and twisted hatred cloud their better judgment.

        2. Spanner1960 6 Sep 2012, 3:45pm

          …and Labour were in for thirteen years and did Sweet Fanny Adams, so please quit with the whole immediacy thing.

          Believe it or not, a lot of people are still strongly opposed to SSM, and they still need to ascertain the cause and effect.

          Rushing through bills willy-nilly like the previous government did served no purpose, and in retrospect caused a lot of damage.

  13. Robert Brown 5 Sep 2012, 4:12pm

    With so many right wing Tory MPs it’s obvious where Cameron stands.

    In addition, due to the fact that MANY (too many) Labour MPs voted against an equal age of consent, equal marriage and rights for the LGBT community, we know where they stand as well.

  14. mark young 5 Sep 2012, 4:25pm

    have the tories done anything for gay rights since they got into power?

    1. They have done absolutely nothing for gay rights since they’ve come into power,

      David Cameron believes that our equal civil rights are a matter of ‘conscience’.

      1. erasure of historic convictions, pressuring homophobic countries and governments to decriminalise homosexuality – yea thats nothing.

    2. Spanner1960 6 Sep 2012, 3:46pm

      Did Labour?

  15. Robert in S. Kensington 5 Sep 2012, 5:00pm

    Those in opposition claim that the Tory party supporting equal marriage will be it’s undoing. Well, I have news for them. By voting against it will be their undoing thereby alienating any gay support what little it now has. Every vote counts, especially the gay vote, no matter who wants to be PM.

    If I were a Tory backbencher opposed to equal marriage, I’d seriously consider if I really wanted my party to lose over this one issue alone as well as face the consequences for helping bring its defeat about.

  16. About 3 months prior to the last election the Tories enjoyed 38% support of the LGBT population.

    At the election they gained only 9% of the LGBT vote thanks to the extremist homophobia of so many of its candidates – Chris Grayling; Philippa Stroud; Iain Duncan Smith etc etc,.

    If they have kept the 38% of the LGBT vote they would likely have gained an overall majority in parliament.

    The promotion of bigots like Chris Grayling and Maria Miller indicates that it remains extremely unwise for any LGBT person to even consider voting for such a political party.

    1. Spanner1960 6 Sep 2012, 3:49pm

      Citation needed.
      Please support this apparent statistical evidence.

  17. It is going to be interesting to see how this is going to turn out.

  18. Maybe Cameron has put two Tory MPs in charge of equality so he can say it was the Tories who were pushing for marriage equality?

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