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Judge orders that trans convict be given gender reassignment surgery in prison

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  1. I’m gonna get pummeled for this, but here goes.

    1. From reports I read this woman doesn’t sound very stable, she’s on gobs of medication etc. As such, if she was on the outside, she wouldn’t be considered a good surgical candidate in my opinion. Get her stable first, then we’ll see about surgery.

    2. The USA does not have national healthcare. Hundreds of thousands of other law abiding trans women can’t afford SRS and are able to live without it, but she can’t?

    3. Really an extension of #1. Surgery is not going to cure her many issues, SRS only corrects ONE issue. As a result I can see her getting surgery and later committing suicide. Her healthcare providers would have failed her and social conservatives will have a field day.

    If you’re going to approve someone for surgery, at least make sure they are a good candidate.

    FTR I have transitioned myself.

    1. Gabrielle 5 Sep 2012, 9:10am

      Many people ARE anxious and depressed and self harming because of their body dysphoria. People who have other mental health problems ALSO have gender dysphoria. She is as deserving of treatment as any other trans person. Being a convicted criminal is not a reason to deny someone healthcare. Everyone deserves healthcare.

      1. She does deserve healthcare (that is a basic human right) and she is being allowed hormone therapy. This is not like a heart condition that she could die from. Sorry, but I do not agree that she be granted a surgery that often costs upwards of $50,000 on the tax payer’s dime. If that is the case then they are welcome to deposit my share of the tax payer’s money for my surgery anytime. I would be happy to have it and I know lots of wonderful, law abiding transpeople out there who would too. Or do we have to commit a crime to get that help? Just sayin.

  2. It may be the first occasion where a court has ordered that a transwoman be provided specifically with GRS but there has been at least one case in the UK where a court ordered that a transwoman be treated for gender dysphoria before release.

    This individual was held in a male prison in spite of having a gender recognition certificate until she took the prison service to court and it was ordered to move her to a female establishment.

    I believe tht she has since undergone GRS.

  3. Julia Ford 5 Sep 2012, 4:25pm

    I suppose its a better way to make history than i did but i realy can’t see why she cannot have SRS after being released . To me it is like rewarding a criminal! It will now open the flood gates for others to get the SRS for free in the USA.

    Plus

    I am fairly sure that somewhere in the gender recognition act that any publication/organisation ect. Revealing the persons previous name can be fined £5.000. Correct me if i am wrong .I know that means in the UK and other countries are different but this is the UK and i am reading it in the UK.

    1. It’s section 22 of the GRA but would only apply if the subject of the disclosure has a GRC (and if you know that the individual has a GRC) . It’s unlikely that this individual would have a UK GRC so would not be covered by the Act.

    2. Being in prison is the punishment and depriving someone of medical care as well is unjustified. You would not, surely, deprive someone of treatment for a heart condition because they are in prison. In fact getting gender reassignent treatment while in prison in the UK is still far from easy and not a short cut to treatment.

      In the UK, the treatment itself is funded by the NHS not by the Prison Service. PCTs where the prisoner may be held are reluctant to fund GRS as the individual may move oiutside their catchment area after release. The offenders may also be moved from one prison and, therefore, one PCT to another during treatment.

      With centralised funding for specialist services in the future, this issue may be resolved – but I can’t imagine many individuals thinking that prison is an easy option for GRS!

      1. Julia Ford 6 Sep 2012, 12:07pm

        Helen! I do feel for her and the main thing that bothers me about this is the fact she is in a male only prison. That is wrong and most likely caused her to self harm .
        I do not know her crime but it is a life sentence and if guilty beyond doubt she gave up her rights.
        She realy should count herself lucky to being treated and getting her hormone therapy. The SRS can wait untill she is released . Some in the USA have to save for the equivilant of a life sentance for GRS.

        1. I appreciate that there are differences in USA – and can understand that providing GRS for prisoners while those who have not committed offences cannot fund their surgery may seem like rewarding wrong doing. That’s why I basically restricted my comments to circumstances in the UK.

          You suggest that GRS should wait until she has been released. I see, however, that she is reported as having attempted self castration and that she has been sentenced to life without parole. Doesn’t that mean she will never be released? Even if she will eventually be released, if you are driven to self castration being forced to wait 10, 20 or 30 years would be mental cruelty. That is additional punishment on top of the prison sentence that a non trans person would face for a similar offence.

          1. As a transperson myself, I am sorry to say I agree with Helen. Some of us do nothing but work, save, max out credit cards and take out bank loans that will take a lifetime to repay (Most FTM top & bottom surgeries combined total well in excess of $50-100,000 dollars US) to pay for out surgeries. We are hardworking, productive and helpful members of society and we don’t even have the support of independent insurance companies (they will not cover this as they consider it “elective”). Many of the transpeople I know also attempt self harm and suffer GD each and every day, yet there is no help for any of us and WE didn’t murder someone. Sorry, but while I appreciate the court’s attempt at sympathy and progressive decisions on behalf of the trans community, I can’t in good conscience support it. I am however very sorry to hear that the court/prison systems have not progressed far enough to allow her to live out her days in a female prison. I can only imagine how difficult that must be.

        2. Although I don’t know her specific circumstances, I have met several transwomen offenders in UK prisons and on probation.

          A common factor was the ignorance, verbal and physical abuse and marginalisation that trans people have faced leading to violent outbursts. Without in any way defending those criminal acts or minimising the impact that they have on the victims it is relevant to examine the background to the offending as dealing with these issues can make a huge difference.

          I totally agree that it is completely inappropriate to incarcerate transwomen in male prisons. Thankfully in England and Wales, the prison service now has a policy of moving them from male to female establishments once they have either acquired a GRC or have undergone surgery

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