Charities? I don’t consider places of worship charities.
So, in a word, yes, there should only be charitable tax status for actual charities, who can be shown to adhere to government regulations, and which are proved to provide benefits to society.
Go away homophobic Bishop. Of course you are hurting people and discriminating against them for your own love of dogma, and your hatred for human freedom. Just go away.
So let me get this straight. Civil marriage is not a man-made invention, the one that doesn’t prevent anyone from remarrying after a divorce? I think this closet case and molester protector needs a reality check.
If the Catholic Church put as much time, money and energy into preventing gay people from getting married into sorting out the accusations of child molestation and paedophilia in their own church they would have the most pure church in the world by now.
The Bishop really should know what he’s talking about before putting pen to paper ……
from http://www.humanitysteam.org/node/3299
“Contrary to myth, Christianity’s concept of marriage has not been set in stone since the days of Christ, but has constantly evolved as a concept and ritual.
Prof. John Boswell, the late Chairman of Yale University’s history department, discovered that in addition to heterosexual marriage ceremonies in ancient Christian church liturgical documents, there were also ceremonies called the “Office of Same-Sex Union” (10th and 11th century), and the “Order for Uniting Two Men” (11th and 12th century).
These church rites had all the symbols of a heterosexual marriage: the whole community gathered in a church, a blessing of the couple before the altar was conducted with their right hands joined, holy vows were exchanged, a priest officiatied in the taking of the Eucharist and a wedding feast for the guests was celebrated afterwards.”
Lets vote to strip away the rights of a minority group because we don’t like them, and think they’re lesser human beings than ourselves.
yip, yip, yip…
Here’s a trick, lets make it so that religious leaders are elected to their position by those they preach to, rather than appointed by a foreign dictator.
Nope, nope, nope…
It’s all because Minni and St. Paul were a straight couple. If it had been Fargo ( that butch biker ) and St. Paul, maybe there’d have been a little more understanding.
“We must ensure that Minnesotans know what is at stake and have the correct information…..”
Yes the correct information that you feed them to further boost your bigoted views…
Because of countries/states recognising gay couples as legit couples as are man/woman and making changes the church is running scared and trotting out all manner of crap…..that fictional book they love so much wont help them as it can be torn to bits….
Don’t you love the way these priests always start by trying to lie about what they are doing. What is easily demonstrable is that they are the biggest fibbers on the planet.
He states ” …… is not a campaign against anyone”.
Of course it is. It is a nasty well funded campaign against GLBT people to advocate for continued discrimination and a denial of access to equal treatment. Worse still they use a bunch of myths, lies and taught prejudices to support their wicked agenda.
This man is nothing less than a nasty piece of work.
“We must ensure that Minnesotans know what is at stake and have the correct information….”
Yes the correct information that you give them to continue trotting out your vile lies and bigoted views…truth is no where to be seen when it comes to that fictional book you love to follow
what a nobhead. what would a single celibate man know about any union. and how does he know gods plan isnt changing? does he talk to him? has he got gods telephone number? or does god come round once a week to tell them all what he thinks?
History will judge these people harshly and deservedly so. I find it hard to accept that so called educated people can be so hate filled, because they, without any doubt, know they are wrong, which leaves nothing but hate as an reason……
The think is that priests are not particularly educated and in fact many are not particularly bright. Many were often the drop outs that were never going to make it far in life if it was not for the priesthood.
We should all pray at the mantel of regret. We should join Catholic churches and heckle, we should do something more than this if this is only retort to it.e
I much prefer my religious institutions to be backward and recinded than the all enclusive approach. The readings of these teachings need updating and until people no longer pay for that type of lip service, we’ll see it again and again.
I’ve got an aunt that looks like this bishop. I would advise him not to waste too much money opposing gay marriage proposals as the diocese will need all the cash it can get its hands on to settle the legal claims for its disgusting handling of the child abuse scandal.
I was in New York a few years ago and one day visited the museum of the city’s history. I read some hateful propaganda pamphlets of the 1840′s calling for the exclusion of a demonised human group from the country.
Which group was this? – Desperately poor Irish Catholics fleeing from the potato famine. Why was their exclusion being demanded? Because, it was claimed, they would corrupt and destroy America’s ‘Protestant Virtues and Liberties’. Nothing stopped their arrival in large numbers, as we know, though they were often badly treated. If the Constitution did not already decree a separation of Church and State, their fate would probably have been much worse.
Here is a prominent Catholic joining in demands for the same Constitution to deny a human right to same-sex couples.
Some members of minority ethnic or religious minority groups get settled in and contract galloping amnesia and hypocrisy.
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No news here.
Yet another delusional god botherer interfering in the secular arena.
Butt out bish.
Thinking about it.
Given that he is using his cults tax exempt status to meddle in “POLITICAL” constitutional matters, should not aforesaid tax status be rescinded.
These Christians really a getting my dander up today.
What with the ECHR crosses, Ladelle and the councilor bigots.
Can’t they see how loathsome they all come across wanting exemptions to laws that the rest of us adhere to.
Charities? I don’t consider places of worship charities.
So, in a word, yes, there should only be charitable tax status for actual charities, who can be shown to adhere to government regulations, and which are proved to provide benefits to society.
What about seperation of church and state…Bishop keep your molesting hands out of politics..
Go away homophobic Bishop. Of course you are hurting people and discriminating against them for your own love of dogma, and your hatred for human freedom. Just go away.
Another call for continued segregation. I mean, that’s what this is all about, isn’t it? SEGREGATION.
When will they grow up?
So let me get this straight. Civil marriage is not a man-made invention, the one that doesn’t prevent anyone from remarrying after a divorce? I think this closet case and molester protector needs a reality check.
What bit about we are born this way do the catholics dont get?
If the Catholic Church put as much time, money and energy into preventing gay people from getting married into sorting out the accusations of child molestation and paedophilia in their own church they would have the most pure church in the world by now.
The Bishop really should know what he’s talking about before putting pen to paper ……
from http://www.humanitysteam.org/node/3299
“Contrary to myth, Christianity’s concept of marriage has not been set in stone since the days of Christ, but has constantly evolved as a concept and ritual.
Prof. John Boswell, the late Chairman of Yale University’s history department, discovered that in addition to heterosexual marriage ceremonies in ancient Christian church liturgical documents, there were also ceremonies called the “Office of Same-Sex Union” (10th and 11th century), and the “Order for Uniting Two Men” (11th and 12th century).
These church rites had all the symbols of a heterosexual marriage: the whole community gathered in a church, a blessing of the couple before the altar was conducted with their right hands joined, holy vows were exchanged, a priest officiatied in the taking of the Eucharist and a wedding feast for the guests was celebrated afterwards.”
Lets vote to strip away the rights of a minority group because we don’t like them, and think they’re lesser human beings than ourselves.
yip, yip, yip…
Here’s a trick, lets make it so that religious leaders are elected to their position by those they preach to, rather than appointed by a foreign dictator.
Nope, nope, nope…
It’s all because Minni and St. Paul were a straight couple. If it had been Fargo ( that butch biker ) and St. Paul, maybe there’d have been a little more understanding.
“We must ensure that Minnesotans know what is at stake and have the correct information…..”
Yes the correct information that you feed them to further boost your bigoted views…
Because of countries/states recognising gay couples as legit couples as are man/woman and making changes the church is running scared and trotting out all manner of crap…..that fictional book they love so much wont help them as it can be torn to bits….
I really do loathe region so much…
Don’t you love the way these priests always start by trying to lie about what they are doing. What is easily demonstrable is that they are the biggest fibbers on the planet.
He states ” …… is not a campaign against anyone”.
Of course it is. It is a nasty well funded campaign against GLBT people to advocate for continued discrimination and a denial of access to equal treatment. Worse still they use a bunch of myths, lies and taught prejudices to support their wicked agenda.
This man is nothing less than a nasty piece of work.
OH NOT AGAIN……
“We must ensure that Minnesotans know what is at stake and have the correct information….”
Yes the correct information that you give them to continue trotting out your vile lies and bigoted views…truth is no where to be seen when it comes to that fictional book you love to follow
I loathe religion so much
what a nobhead. what would a single celibate man know about any union. and how does he know gods plan isnt changing? does he talk to him? has he got gods telephone number? or does god come round once a week to tell them all what he thinks?
How about we ban all Catholics?
History will judge these people harshly and deservedly so. I find it hard to accept that so called educated people can be so hate filled, because they, without any doubt, know they are wrong, which leaves nothing but hate as an reason……
The think is that priests are not particularly educated and in fact many are not particularly bright. Many were often the drop outs that were never going to make it far in life if it was not for the priesthood.
God bless him
We should all pray at the mantel of regret. We should join Catholic churches and heckle, we should do something more than this if this is only retort to it.e
I much prefer my religious institutions to be backward and recinded than the all enclusive approach. The readings of these teachings need updating and until people no longer pay for that type of lip service, we’ll see it again and again.
We should seek alliance not agreement.
Every time I see one of these men in frocks all I can envision is the “Father Ted” episode.
“Kicking Bishop Brennan up the @rse”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEIjXU7baSc
Always brings a smile to my face….
I’ve got an aunt that looks like this bishop. I would advise him not to waste too much money opposing gay marriage proposals as the diocese will need all the cash it can get its hands on to settle the legal claims for its disgusting handling of the child abuse scandal.
I was in New York a few years ago and one day visited the museum of the city’s history. I read some hateful propaganda pamphlets of the 1840′s calling for the exclusion of a demonised human group from the country.
Which group was this? – Desperately poor Irish Catholics fleeing from the potato famine. Why was their exclusion being demanded? Because, it was claimed, they would corrupt and destroy America’s ‘Protestant Virtues and Liberties’. Nothing stopped their arrival in large numbers, as we know, though they were often badly treated. If the Constitution did not already decree a separation of Church and State, their fate would probably have been much worse.
Here is a prominent Catholic joining in demands for the same Constitution to deny a human right to same-sex couples.
Some members of minority ethnic or religious minority groups get settled in and contract galloping amnesia and hypocrisy.