No, instead you will teach the intellectual bilge of magic tricks, talking animals, hocus pocus, lies and supernatural cr@p in the buy-bull.
Teaching theocracy steals potential from the next generation by wasting their time during an education process that will shape their future. All because organised religion – the perpetual mendicant – must create the next generation of bloody sheep to pay for palaces and stupid hats.
I am not paying taxes to support this creationist nonsense. Close the school!
teaching catholic values -
Raping children by their sex starved, even forbidden to masturbate priests?
Values of the empire in which RATZInger grew up.
Makes me ashamed to be Cornish. And there’s one bit in particular that shows how idiotic these people are
“There are so many problems in schools today where basic family values are not taught and it is OK for Jack to marry Jack and not Jill.”
No, that’s not what’s being taught. What’s being taught is that it’s okay for Jack to marry Jack *OR* Jill. Huge difference
This is really disgusting.
How is being gay linked to moral values? I don’t understand?
It is the Roman cult’s most essential stand that whatever is their teaching equates to morality. That they are the world’s arbiters of morality, over everyone, not just their own followers. This because their cult was founded by order of the son of god, and its priesthood has power because of a direct line of touch from the son of god. Of course, if you don’t believe it, then its farcical.
Unfortunately journalists are so lazy that they never use qualifiers such as “claimed” in reporting such statements. And the cult would claim they were biased if they did.
When you realise that the European Convention on Human Rights says that nations may restrict who may marry only on the grounds of morality (which it doesn’t define), but it also forbids religious discrimination, one immediately sees that claims to own morality, and not be merely stating a religious belief, are of vital significance.
They should have there funding cut off.
I agree. If they cannot follow the national curriculum, why should they benefit from the national purse?
I agree. The government should not fund discrimination against a portion of the population.
This is disgusting! I do not want any taxes that I pay used to fund schools which ‘teach’ that my life is wrong or immoral!
Faith schools should not be funded by the public purse in any way, shape or form.
At least not those who teach discrimination against a portion of the population.
Problem is Peter is that most faith schools do which is why I feel that they should not receive any state funding!
See who talk about moral Values ? Catholics….. my A**e !!!
I assume pedophilia is one of those moral values need to be taught !!!
Unfortunately, as we see it, this is not against the Equality Statute, until the present Tory Minister puts into practice a new Gender bill within education, many newly created schools will continue to teach, that the World is only 2000 yrs old, ie, creationism and that the bible does not approve of LGBT people, thereby creating future generations of children being brainwashed into thinking that marriage is only between a man and a woman.
Jack can’t marry Jack . . .
They can only ‘civil partner’ . . .
‘Family Values’ = ‘There are lots of families we don’t value’.
Tell them that they have an inclusive policy or they lose tax-payers’ money.
How and why can a school get funding for teaching such out dated and bigoted views to its children? Faith Schools should not be given public money and as a tax payer I object to my taxes being used to indoctrinate the next generation in homophobia. This is sinister and illogical in today’s society, which is moving forward to understand and to accept equality.
A clear violation, of the separation of church and state.
Which we (sadly) don’t have.
But we don’t have that in the UK
what seperation? uk and iran are the only two countries in the world where parliament seats are allocated to clerics
Education and Religion MUST BE SEPARATED – I have friends, (breeders) agnostics who are claiming to be Catholic just so their kids can get into a so called ‘good school’ – They are subjecting their own flesh and blood to superstitions and brain-washing just to feel like good parents – FOR SHAME – this hatred bred by the Pope and his fellow Pedos, underminds progress and natural evolution away from organised superstition and taught bigotry!
I agree with you on education and religion and feel that lying to get your child into a school does not teach them good moral values it teaches them its ok to lie to get what you want.
on another point I find the term ‘breeders’ offensive!
Faith schools are a disgrace as it is, but teaching bigotry using public money? Think this is one for all right-minded people to write to their MPs about.
I hope every gay kid at that school has the strength to disrupt and not settle for being told they’re inferior.
Another ITC (Irrational Transmission Centre) opens up under UK government legislation. Shameful.
UK Government! Are you out for human rights for all or not!
If State funding can be used to fund such a school, maybe all other State schools should be teaching about Catholic ‘nonsense’?! As it happens I support faith schools of all denominations but not when they promote or support bigotry and inequality!
Faith schools will lead to fractures in tomorrow’s society, mark my words.
As well as religious free schools, as is the case here
is it Ofsted who is responsible for schools.
The funding for this dangerous cult school must be stopped until it has been properly vetted.
If this cult school is teaching homophobic extremism then it cannot be funded by the public.
Anyone know how we can get this funding halted?
Oooh! He said “cult” again.
Oh how we laugh.
Your objection to the word is what, exactly?
Hopefully there will be no “forced” enrollment by government or education authorities.
I would greatly discouraged and a disappointment as a parent, if I sent my child to any place of education, which in addition to teaching the three RRR’s would fail my child by not teaching the other life value R’s “right – wrong – respect” without which my child won’t have much of a conscience.
I see great harm and no value to the future generations, learning judgemental non-truths, prejudices and intolerance instead of love and acceptance..
The louder they talk of their honour, the faster we need to count the spoons.
If you hate faith schools as much as I do, join the National Secular Society, which campaigns against them. There should be no place in our democracy for state sponsored brainwashing of the type spewed out by faith schools. It is tantamount to child abuse.
Complain to Ofsted about them as well – Ofsted is the schools regulatory body.
Unfortunately, to me, the NSS is too extreme. If there was a group that campaigned for the laws on equality between faiths, and those of no faith, being honour in practice, and extended, instead of being intent on rubbishing silly beliefs that people are quite entitled to hold, if they wish, but no impose on others (even their children), then I would join like a shot.
Everyone should make a complaint to Ofsted, requesting that all state funding to this cult school is suspended, pending the results of an Ofsted investigation into the school.
You can do so by clicking on the following link.
from ofsted website ‘Ofsted is unable to consider complaints about special educational needs, religious education, exclusions, temporary exceptions to the curriculum or admissions. This is because other statutory agencies have the legal powers to look into these issues’.
Of course they don’t want any gay staff or teaching concerning it – it would make it far too easy for the kids to classify the abuse the catholic priests make them endure. I wonder if they will be promoting no condoms, no divorce, no mixed religious marriages- it will be so nice to see the jesuit fathers approach building in Cornwall. I just hope the parents in the area keep their children away from such educational abuse and the church is mae to pay for the multi-million extension and that an enquiry is set up to see who approved this spending and what was the loopy secretary of state for education thought he was doing to approve this!
Exactly! They want to go back to the good old days, when children were so ‘innocent’ they couldn’t resist, so disciplined they didn’t dare to resist and there was so much respect that no-one helped them if they did resist.
Doesn’t the UK have seperation of church and state? I can’t believe the Government is paying to support a Catholic church.
The Catholic church should be using its money for that school.
Personally they’re teach a bunch of rubbish.
No we don’t.
It is so embarrassing for a country that claims to be a democracy to have an unelected head of state; and said head of state is also the head of the state religion.
Members of said religion are allowed to take seats in the unelected upper house of parliament (the House of Lords) and vote on issues that affect the entire country – even though they have absolutely zero mandate to do so.
And the government seems to think it’s appropriate to pay taxpayer’s money to cult schools.
What we have in the UK is techically a theocracy. An unelected monarch as titular head of the state cult, an archbishop appointed by the monarch through the government and an unelected House of Lords with 26 anglican clerics having a say in who is entitled to rights and who can vote against those rights to reflect their religious beliefs. About time it was abolished. The majority of people in the UK aren’t practicing Anglicans either. We’re a ‘christian’ country in name only. That’s why the Tories don’t want HoL reform and why we’re seeing so many of them against equal marriage who are bent on defeating it. New Zealand doesn’t have an upper chamber in its parliamentary system and it functions very well without one.
There’s that “cult” word again…
Clarity of moral values? Is he for real? A bit rich coming from a cult with a centuries old tradition of paedophilia and misogyny. The roman cult is morally bankrupt, permanently. I don’t want my taxes supporting hate groups which is what the roman cult and its schools are all about.
And of course giving dignity and respect to all members and sections of society and equality and fair and just treatment for all people are not moral values.
How exactly did they convince the government to fund this? I think a few more questions need to be answered…
The government (both the present one and the last) seem to be suffering under the delusion that giving taxpayers’ money to cult schools is an appropriate use of tax revenue.
There are thousands of faith schools in receipt of public money.
What these cult schools fail to understand is that their superstitions are secondary to national law; and if they fail to understand this (as has happened here; then they lose their state funding).
Oops. Another ‘cult’ reference.
1) Faith schools are egregious institutions, and it’s an outrage that they are funded by the government.
2) This article is appallingly written and a bad re-hash of the original piece in This Is Cornwall. Who is who, for a start? Also, the quotes have been credited to the wrong people.
You should regard Pink News as a blog, rather than as a news outlet.
They get most (all?) of their articles from other sources; never bother proof-reading the articles, meaning that basic grammar is often wrong; and don’t care 1 iota about the relevance of the articles to their primary readership (notice how many ridiculous US based stories there are on here.l)
How sad, that attempt to m….. Pope John Paul II 1981 on the St. Peter Square was not successful – now we all live be in much more better, more secular world, when religious leaders are just religious leaders, state separate from church, and religion itself in Western world is historical relic from ancient times. Unfortunate, The Pope from Poland has restore the paradigm of political Catholicism, so discredit in the times of Pius XII, almost dead under John XXIII and especially – the intellectual (and secret gay) Paul VI. Now, after the ‘sexual Revolution’, we all must live in the new Restauration under not elected reigning of religious authorities. What next? Pope as King of United Nations? (oh, yes, its already is happen 4 years ago…) Then maybe – Catholic Church with ‘veto’ right in the new created ‘security Council of moral values’?
What a load of rubbish. So if JP 11 was murdered there would no Catholic Church, just as when John Lennon was murdered that was the end of popular music….
Get a grip on reality. You do us no favours.
STFU you idiot, we don’t endorse murder and terrorism here.
Zapatero santo subito!
Unless he is dead I can’t see how’s that possible
How would that have helped? They would just have elected another Pope in 1981 instead of 2005. Same old same old…..
Yes, I know. But its better, when this Catholic roundabout is more quickly. More possibilities for positive surprise.
Local people express disgust on Facebook:
This is a very worrying story, as it begs the question as to how the school will deal with any cases of homophobic bullying.
Do what they do in the US. If schools don’t deal with bullying seriously you take them to court and sue them. Also, the President had to tell them to deal with it or lose funding, due to a string of suicides which somehow finally got noticed nationwide — and the IT GETS BETTER project was born.
No funding for those kinds of hate filled schools…”Family values” thats a farce…Is that why so many Catholic priest molest the catholic boys and others..???
Father Findlay added that Catholic education was not a gimmick but a “strong brand” and “something many people value”.
A car company might have the same catchphrase but then they aren’t dealing with the education of children.
Government money – our money should be witheld from schools teaching inequality or homophobia. Parents, teachers or pupils from any such school using homophobic language should be reported to the police and/or local council. If we get hassle they will receive the same.
I don’t see why all schools can’t have cameras fitted in all classrooms, which can be used as evidence if a student complains, or there is a suspicion of any demonising statements being made.
I can’t think of a more dangerous place to send your child. If they’re gay they’ll get bullied and might be at risk of taking their own life, and whether gay or straight they’re clearly at more risk of being sexually abused – it didn’t just happen in churches, and we don’t know that it’s stopped.
Actually, many already do.
Time to make a stand, everyone.
I’d urge all to write to Nick Gibb, MP, Schools Minister asking why LGBT taxes and everyone else’s are being used to fund this Catholic School.
I’ve previously met Nick and he’s a very pro-active MP here in the South East. I’ve always found him to be fair and willing to listen to all sides.
When writing, make sure you write to him not as your MP (as he’ll write back asking for your Post Code etc), but as member of the public writing to the Schools Minister.
I hope Stonewall et al are already on the case and I’d like to see Chris Brocklebank from Pink News update the story with a reply from the Government on this.
Yes, Pink News should contact Michael Gove and ask him about this. Also what does Equalities minister Lynne Featherstone think about this school?
I wonder of they will teach all that”nonsense” about the sun not orbiting the earth?
Shameful-there will be amongst students and their families LGBT people. You can’t wish that away guys anymore than you can wish away a heliocentric solar system.
It wasn’t until 1992 that the Pope finally apologised for the Church’s treatment of Galileo, and officially admitted that the Earth wasn’t stationary in space. Doesn’t give you much hope for them amending their anti-gay views very soon, does it?!
Roll on the year 2468
Sorry, but ANY government funding to this school should be withdrawn, and any already paid required to be paid back!
Hopefully the local church and their supporters will not be able to keep this running.
Would a school be allowed to teach racist beliefs as long as they were ‘religious’? Years ago the Bible was used to justify racist beliefs.
It’s not “undermining” a school to tell the truth about its damaging ethos. I hope that any pupils there whatever their sexuality make it very clear that they don’t want to be taught such discriminatory, offensive views.
I really don’t see why schools like this aren’t obliged to teach equality.
Absolutely! Lets substitute just one word in Mr Simmon’s hideously bigoted response – black for gay – he’d be saying:
“blacks would be welcome to this school.. But we would not encourage it”.
Says it all – this kind of BNP philosophy is quite simply unacceptable in society and least of all in schools. State funding should be pulled immediately.
the point here is they arnt technically a faith school, they’re a free school (a far worse idea) so they can be run basically how they want them to and still get public funding, the local authorities have no input really and if i remember rightly they dont have to follow the national curriculum aswel although of that last point im not 100% sure
I think there are some laws regarding what state funded schools can teach. A Jewish free school got in trouble earlier this year for anti Gay rhetoric. These Catholics will be more careful but they ought not to be funded. I will write to Lynne Featherstone.
This is just another excuse for priest to get their hands on more vulnerable kids…
I think that is somewhat extreme.
I was talking about brainwashing kids into becoming hateful bigots, what did you think I was talking about?
Well it does beg the question when referring to Catholic priests and children…
Religious instruction in schools is child abuse.
thought they had to teach the government curriular…..they will need to teach gay issues
LGBT history is … optional :( It should be introduced in all schools as it’s been proven to reduce homophobia and bullying.
ALL parties agrees homophobic bullying was a serious problem before the election, but the coalition seems to have done very little, if anything at all.
im not sure they can teach just only one sided view of gay relationships
Who is Mr Wallace Simmons and what does he have to do with the school? Was he talking for himself or on behalf of the school?
It seems that he is the grandfather of a (former) pupil from another school — he cannot be the grandfather of a former pupil of the actual school, as that establishment hasn’t officially opened yet, as far as I can gather!
So this seems to be a complete non-story, as the headline should read: “Grandfather of a former pupil of another school says…”.
Yet, why let the truth stand in the way of a good story, eh?
Sadly, it is becoming more and more evident to me that self-proclaimed ‘rationalists’ are sometimes the least rational members of society.
i really, really object to my tax pounds going on this school. Faith and free schools are bad enough with out this nonsense.
The priest is a liar, it is not a case of “it is OK for Jack to marry Jack and not Jill”
Same sex marriage is not replacing ‘traditional’ marriage as the only one recognised by law.
It would have been far more accurate for the priest to have said “it is OK for Jack to marry Jack if he wanted to, or Jill if he wanted to”
Is a little honesty too much to ask from the catholic church?
“Is a little honesty too much to ask from the catholic church?”
Where the Catholic church is concerned a little honesty really is an ask too far.
Personally, I think that’s fine, as long as state run schools drop all religious education (read: indoctrination).
We don’t want our kid’s heads filled with this ‘God’ nonsense either.
but I would go further and make ALL schools state run schools, then the removal of indoctrination would be fair and equitable – we don’t want some pupils allowed to lead normal lives whilst some spend all day genuflecting and praying to some sad-faced stone idol. :(
I hate to be the one to say it, but privately run schools (be they religious or secular) have a far better record of producing results than the state ones. My only gripe is that taxpayers money is being used to fund some of these, and I think that if we are paying for it, they should follow Government guidelines.
If these people want to send their kids to these dodgy establishments, so be it, but they should paddle their own canoes and not expect the rest of us to subsidise their indoctrination.
Nice one, Gove, you disgusting tory scumbag.
i’m sure a KKK school would proudly announce they weren’t gonna teach any racial equality ‘nonsense’. no difference. its disgusting that a UK government funds any catholic school.
I find it absolutely appalling that gay tax payers have to pay for religious run schools which are opposed to full equality including their hierarchy. The government shouldn’t be funding any denomination or their schools. If people want a religious education, let them pay for it out of their own pockets. It’s high time we had a serious national debate about disestablishing state religion altogether. I can almost hear the victim card rants at the prospect of that. They don’t think twice when they mouth of against gay people with such hateful rhetoric but don’t like it when we give it right back to them. Their opposition is going to galvanise a lot of people, not just gay people, into calling for the abolition of state religion. About time some of our more progressive MPs raised the question.
I had the misfurtune to be born a catholic. “The pope just love’s me does’nt he?” . Answer! No he hate’s me because i am me.
These people sexualy abuse children then have the nerve to make statements like this.
I may have been born a catholic but i can never agree with thier church or beliefs because they are all perverts in my eye’s. At least i am true to myself unlike them hiding behind closed doors.
Let’s have a referendum about whether we should have government funded belief without evidence schools (or “faith schools” as they are euphemistically called)
I am so angry, the headmaster of that school is my old Physics teacher. We had a rather heated debate where he stated the problem in the Catholic church was there were too many closeted gay priests that abuse children. I sent him a letter once he moved to that school asking him to re-evaluate his views and I thought we had come to an understanding. This was part of his reply “Rest assured that I will do every thing humanly possible to ensure that every pupil of St Michael’s is treated with complete respect and that unprofessional conduct by teachers and all bullying will be dealt with.” I can’t believe I was naive enough to believe him!
Faith schools, no matter what the religion or denomination, should NOT be funded from the public purse. Doing so is neither democracy nor the separation of church and state needed in these modern times.
I would think this school will be well placed in Cornwall, supposedly the most homophobic county in the uk. it is disgusting though as is the catholic church. A few years ago i lost a dear friend he had been with his life long partner for over 50 years, he had the full horrible catholic funeral, the bloke in the frock with the ridiculas hat never even mentioned his partners name, and 2 weeks later he was knocking on his partners door telling him that in gods eyes they were living in sin. I now hate even more everything to do with to do with religion, especially the catholic church, which is just an institution for abusing kids, and gets full blessing from the old queen in Rome.
close the school or change their teachigs and teachers
Catholic indoctrination of children’s education and deliberately missing out part of our society are not treating children as humans but more like battery hens.
more opportunity to rape kiddies
and the taxpayer funding it
Religion is de-facto above the law, everywhere it pervades civilian society. Claim “religious rights” and you can freely hate and publicly say it.
Because Vatican inc. owns most our politicians, who are too cowardly to speak their mind. Time to tell the churches we owe them nothing, and certainly not the disproportionate respect they demand, and are unduly given, always, everywhere.
I have feared this from the day that this government set up and allowed the funding of independant schools. If you believe in a set of core values and equality in your society, then that should be prevalent in your school teachings too. If any young person deceides to follow a faith that is their decision and a private matter between them and their chosen god. But we should not allow any independant body that wishes to follow it own self governing line of education, and one that it totally against the grain of how UK society is developing, and lets face it, ironicly,sets itself directly against the governments and indeed the vast majority of political parties views on equal rights for the LGBT community on for example, marriage. You simply cannot throw out the school governing framework to any independant body that comes along and then expect all reaching 16/18 years will have an open and unbiased view on all aspects of life including those of the LGBT community.
As a footnote, this from Ofteds website regarding any form of complaint – Ofsted has limited legal powers. We regret that we can only consider complaints that raise wider concerns about the school and that have already been investigated through the school’s complaints procedure. By following the school’s complaints procedure you are expected to have raised your complaint with the headteacher, board of governors and local authority (or Department of Education if the school is an academy) before contacting Ofsted.-
Well if the terms of operating the school are clearly homophobic then what is the point of contacting the school? Ofteds remit is useless and should have more independant power to act on issues like this. This government really has got it so wrong on many levels by allowing public sector funding and social interferance by bodies only interested in pursuit of their own narrow minded values. I pity any poor gay youth having to be ‘educated’ in such an establishment.
The article is badly written. It refers to the comments of “Mr Wallace Simmons, the grandfather of a former student”. Does he have any other connection to the school? Why should his comments be given any weight? Needs clarification
Handing over the education of our children to a foreign body under the control of some intensely homophobic individuals who are opposed to British values of tolerance and acceptance, and giving them money to do it. It isn’t really cricket, is it ?
aryan nation school next?
This of course will not lead to sectarianism ? Has the last 30 odd years of “The Troubles” taught these idiots nothing? Even in N. Ireland the move now is to build unified schools where possible. This is a massive step backwards
“The school have put out a press release on their website:
Statement from the Principal, the Chairman and Vice-Chairman of Governors and Chair of Communications of St. Michael’s Catholic Secondary School, Camborne.
The recent article in the West Briton (Thursday, 30 August 2012)
‘New Faith School will not teach gay nonsense.’ has been brought to our attention and we would like to respond urgently.
1) Mr. Wallace Simmons, the source of the material that provides the headline, does not represent this school. He is not a parent. He is not a governor. He is not a member of staff. He has nothing to do with the setting up of St. Michaels Catholic Secondary School.
He cannot and does not speak for this school.
2) School policy is clear. Everyone, regardless of gender, race or orientation will be accepted with respect, compassion and sensitivity. Any sign of discrimination, including homophobia, will be dealt with robustly.
3) We stand by the dignity of the human person and, because of our beliefs, seek the very best for every child placed in our care whatever their family circumstance.
We disassociate ourselves from the injudicious remarks attributed in this article.
Neil Anderson (Principal)
Simon Southern (Chairman) Robbie Low (Vice Chairman)”
I really, really hope this is true and that they’re not just trying to sweep it under a convenient rug.
And welcome to the Middle Ages.
May the ambundance of the christian teachings lighten their hearts to their devilish ways.
When we wake all will be well