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Update: New Zealand parliament supports equal marriage 80 votes to 40

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  1. Jolly good!

  2. Robert in S. Kensington 29 Aug 2012, 8:05pm

    Well done, New Zealand! You put the UK to shame, not even a first draft of a bill in sight. France, New Zealand, the next to legalise equal marriage, ahead of us of course.

    1. Colombia and Luxemburg (and possibly Uruguay) are also expected to get equal marriage in 2012 or 2013, as likely will some additional states in Mexico, Brazil and possibly Australia.

  3. Fantastic, just fantastic news. The speed at which this has progressed amazes me. 30 National MPs voted for it as well – even the likes of Gerry Brownlee and ACT’s John Banks whom I never in a thousand years would vote for gay marriage. Very tellingly the Nats only out gay MP Chris Findlayson voted AGAINST the bill. SHAME ON YOU CHRIS.

    Sure, it’s only the first reading and there is a long way to go yet but a 80-40 vote is very very promising. Not a whisper from the UK government about marriage equality yet – their only statement being “it will be law by 2015”. 2015. Three years away. Sod that

    As an expat Kiwi this has already got me thinking about getting on a plane and getting married on the shores of Lake Tekapo or somewhere awesome!!

  4. Don’t forget, though, the Christian Right will be online talking to its US far right puppet masters. Any help from UK LGBT organisations and their professional allies would be much appreciated

  5. Suddenly I want to move there. I am so happy for them. Onwards and upwards.

  6. All’s well that ends well… congrtas NZ


  7. Not there yet, this is the first reading, if you read the whole article, it says it’s getting some strong opposition.

  8. johnny33308 29 Aug 2012, 10:44pm

    to PINK NEWS: will you PLEASE cease using the perjorative term “gay marriage”? It turns off millions who might otherwise agree to MARRIAGE EQUALITY and gives the religious bigots ammunition in their pulpits…besides it is totally inaccurate since marriage currently is not referred to as “Heterosexual Marriage” though it is an accurate description. Using the term ‘gay marriage’ is shooting us in the foot, so PLEASE be more aware of how you are NOT helping the CAUSE here… MARRIAGE EQUALITY IS WHAT WE ALL ARE FIGHTING FOR, NOT GAY MARRIAGE…PLEASE correct your thinking…

    1. Well said as it is not ‘gay’ marriage.

      1. johnny33308 30 Aug 2012, 12:03am

        thank you….people cannot get “gay” married and they do not get “straight” married, they simply get married…

    2. jamestoronto 30 Aug 2012, 7:23am

      Modern journalism is always looking for a “quick-fix” phrase to get a concept out to the general public. Hence, we have all the various terms to describe the marriage of a person of one sex to a person of the same sex. Why not just EM (= Equal Marriage). A tad sterile, true, but not as offensive to most as “gay marriage” (whatever that means since no one ever says do you gay marry or straight marry him/her), not as cumbersome as “same-sex marriage” (has anyone ever been invited to an “opposite sex marriage”?) Just plain EM. Just an idea!

    3. Marriage is not ‘gay’ its a ball and chain

    4. I agree, but the term “gay marriage” has been around for donkeys years.…0.0…1ac.ozFML7w6Tk0#q=gay+marriage&hl=en&gl=uk&sa=X&ei=7kQ_UMegKIHX0QXn14DIAQ&ved=0CCQQpwUoBg&source=lnt&tbs=cdr:1%2Ccd_min%3A01%2F01%2F2004%2Ccd_max%3A31%2F12%2F2005&tbm=nws&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=280807d28423a013&biw=1280&bih=699
      (google search “gay marriage” 2004-2005)
      The term “gay marriage” is probably preferably to same-sex marriage – we don’t want the word “sex” in it, otherwise people think this is about sex, and not love and relationships, although haters are fixated on sex whatever we call it. Same-gender is a little unfamiliar. Equal marriage is probably best.

    5. Robert in S. Kensington 30 Aug 2012, 12:20pm

      Exactly right. That term originated in America when the equal marriage campaign in Massachusetts first started. It’s a term opponents like to use to foment opposition, intolerance and hatred. It’s irresponsible of any gay organisation to fall into that trap, including the media and MPs even though many of them support us and our right to marry.

    6. agreed,and while we are at it can I just say I hate the term ‘same-sex’ marriage/couple…as the focus word there, especially for the bigots and the lion chow (xtians) is the word sex…..much prefer to use ‘same-gender’ as a term.

  9. And still the UK government faffs and farts and will eventually come up with a good old British unworkable compromise.

    1. jamestoronto 30 Aug 2012, 6:57am

      Maybe it is time Britain took some advice from the colonies. After all, in any family, sometimes the children, as they mature, can offer a lot of good advice to mother.

  10. Very positive beginning but the ‘poison ivies’ of the religious right will get very, very, busy now and many MP’s will be threatened and bullied by the arch-conservatives. I hope the 80 MP’s who voted ‘yes’ hold their ground against homophobia, discrimination and anti-human rights!

  11. Pavlos Prince of Greece 30 Aug 2012, 1:38am

    Good beginning – half of work. And same will happen in Tasmania and South Australia – soon, very soon!

  12. jamestoronto 30 Aug 2012, 6:51am

    An auspicious beginning. Still Committee and then Second and Third Readings to go but if this vote is any indication of the final tally, New Zealand will join the eleven to make a dozen equal marriage countries and then by the looks of it, France will make the baker’s dozen early in the autumn. The tide of history rolls forward!!!

  13. And we are STILL waiting on a timetable for equality.

    I really do wonder why the gay organisations are not kicking up a STINK about the unacceptable delays in introducing equal civil rights in the UK.

    First we had the grossly offensive public consultation on equal civil rights (never before as far as I can remember has a minority’s civil rights been subject to a public consultation).

    Then we learn that there will be a free vote on our equal civil rights because they are a ‘conscience matter’.

    And we continue to wait.

    I think a private members bill is in order.

    Which MP would be amenable to introducing such a bill?

    We cannot trust the homophobic Tory Party – equal civil rights could be a reality by Christmas you know.

  14. I watched this debate online yesterday and there was some amazing, passionate speeches from those who are in favour, along with the usual claptrap from those who are against. Louisa Wall, the MP who sponsored this bill is fantastic and if you want to see her interviewed by a very dear friend of mine, check out this link:

    1. Thanks very much for this link.

      Excellent interview and an inspiring performance by Louisa Wall.

  15. The UK would have an even bigger majority for same sex marriage if it ever got around to putting it to a vote!!!!!

    Well done NZ, I’m sure with 80 to 40 vote at the first reading it will now go all the way. I thought the PM was also in favour of it which is a pretty significant point as well.

  16. Here’s hoping that Tasmania will also vote NZ example in a few hours time and also vote for SS marriage!

  17. Great news, hoever they failed to raise the drinking age.

    1. What has the drinking age got to do with Equal Marriage?

      1. jamestoronto 30 Aug 2012, 4:10pm


  18. Passed reading in Tasmania 13-11.

    I don’t know if this is a first reading or the whole bill. First reading I expect.

    1. jamestoronto 30 Aug 2012, 2:26pm

      It was the whole bill according to the Australian gay news website. The bill now goes to the upper house.

  19. It’s so straight the way these rubbish conservative evangelical Christian lobby groups whisk up petitions here there and everywhere to oppose equality and equal rights.

    1. You can sign this petition telling Cardinal O’Brien to stop gay-bashing

      or this one to tell the Church of England they don’t speak for all Christians

      Remember some really take off – we got Apple to take down the anti-gay Exodus International app :)

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 30 Aug 2012, 7:05pm

        Thanks for posting, GulliverUK, I signed both.

  20. I remember some years ago in Australia the 2iC of the Family First party there publicly stated that all homosexuals and Buddhists should be killed (well, there goes half of my family). If I remember aright, they also had it in for Wiccans.

    These people, it seems to me, seek to disguise horrific prejudices behind the benign mask of “family” values. It is good to see that New Zealand MPs are mostly able to see beyond this.

  21. Good news, New Zealand. I wonder why David Cameron appears to be doing nothing about equal marriage? Strange fellow.

  22. Robert in S. Kensington 30 Aug 2012, 7:00pm

    Did anyone read about this in the Guardian or any other paper. I didn’t see anything, let alone any reference to France’s decision to introduce a bill in October. Maybe I missed something?

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  24. Gay Activist Paul Mitchell 31 Aug 2012, 3:22pm

    Well done New Zealand, however do not get to excited because this is just the first reading (80 to 40 first vote) and there is still the Select Committee stage, second reading, Committee of the whole and third readings.

    This says a lot about how BACKWARD both the UK and Australia really are hey????!!!!

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