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Scottish government urged to “stand firm” on equal marriage decision

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  1. A dangerous precedent would be set if elected politicians gave way to would be theocrats.

    1. casparthegood 26 Aug 2012, 9:28pm

      I can’t help feeling it has become intensly personal now.Will he make it a resignation issue when he fails tho ?

      1. New Aussie 28 Aug 2012, 3:45am

        He won’t fail. The catholic church are waving their arms about but they have no power and very little real support.

      2. Quite possibly, it would be quite a failure for him indeed.. This would make an ideal swansong/retirement issue and I reckon he’ll be unable to reconcile the changes in Scotland with his deeply help beliefs about the teachings of the catholic church blah blah blah. Bit like Rowan Williams and his comments about conflicts that won’t go away (i.e. ordination of women, appointment of gay bishops) and how his successor would need the constitution of an ox and hide of a rhinoceros.

        It does make me giggle a bit though, when people get all self-important and make grandiose statements about the world, unjustly of course, not agreeing with them and how they can’t continue in whatever role or office they hold and are going to stand down, retire or whatever. It’s the ‘adult’ equivalent of a twelve year old announcing they’re taking their ball home because they don’t like how other people are playing the game. They pick up their ball, they leave, and everyone else just carries on!

  2. Im a 100% sure that the Scottish Government will still go ahead with equal marriage. The fact that the Deputy First Minister herself directly spoke with the protesters outside the cabinet meeting and ensured relgious protections and stated that a bill will still go ahead, says it all.

  3. New Aussie 27 Aug 2012, 5:47am

    It would be politically impossible for the Scottish government to renege on this issue with the overwhelming majority of MSPs behind it, not to mention two thirds of the Scottish population. The Catholic church have repeatedly ratcheted up this ridiculously over the top campaign against us as gay people and they show no intention of backing down. It is my firm belief therefore that gay people and our supporters should respond in kind. The Catholic church in Scotland is paid out of the public purse to run sectarian schools, that are hugely divisive as well as being a vipers nest of antigay propaganda to the very young. Do we really think the church is an appropriate body to act in loco parentis in the control of the education of children anyway? Time to start writing to our MSPs demanding an end to Catholic control of Scottish schools.

    1. Bill (Scotland) 27 Aug 2012, 7:46am

      Totally agree, and an end to its status as a charity, entitling it to significant tax-breaks.

  4. Peter Robertson 27 Aug 2012, 7:50am

    Even though the church was disestablished in Scotland a long time ago, the remaining, antiquated power of the English church seems to encourage the religious here. Perhaps that is an argument for Scotland’s independence?

    1. Eh? The Catholic church mounts these homophobic campaigns in every country giving rights to gay people. Only in England where there is deference to the national church, do they p,ay it down. I support independence but lets be under no illusions about the source if catholic homophobia – it is the Vatican.

  5. I want a timetable for equality.

    There is no valid reason why marriage equality is not a reality in Scotland by christmas 2012.

    The SNP need to a lot more forceful when dealing with the religious cults.

    A clear statement to the catholic cult stating ‘civil marriage is none of your business and if you keep meddling in secular matters, then you must start paying tax’ is required.

    1. “There is no valid reason why marriage equality is not a reality in Scotland by christmas 2012.”

      Is that other than the laws and procedures setting out how our laws are created!?

  6. Once this has been finalized, it would be good to see a full on tackling of homophobia in sport.

    It’s definitely the final hurdle, but homophobia is rife in sport and it will be a hard one to fight.

    However, I’m so happy with the progress within the past ten years.

    1. Equality Network 28 Aug 2012, 8:02am

      Hi Sean, the Equality Network recently published research on homophobia and transphobia in sport in Scotland, with recommendations for tackling it. If you’re interested, it’s here:

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