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Pressure piles on Boris over @Out4Marriage video promise

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  1. As it appears that he is now making a bid for the Leadership-coming from the right of the party- he cannot damage any credibility with his right of centre supporters by being seen as supporting a so called ‘modernist left’ agenda. It’s all about Boris Johnson’s bid to take over the conservative party- nothing to do with LGBT issues at all. I’m just cynical- but I fear accurate. Time will tell!

  2. Boris was the man who said

    “Gay marriage can only ever be a ludicrous parody of the real thing”

    and

    “We don’t want our children being taught some rubbish about homosexual marriage being the same as normal marriage, and that is why I am more than happy to support Section 28″

    and

    “If gay marriage was OK – and I was uncertain on the issue – then I saw no reason in principle why a union should not be consecrated between three men, as well as two men; or indeed three men and a dog.”

    And this is a man we expect to make an Out4Marriage video? No wonder he has failed on his promises – his language suggests he does not support LGBT people. Even if he does make a video, would we believe what he said, given his past rampant homophobia?

    1. Spanner1960 17 Aug 2012, 9:28am

      People do change.
      The biggest threat to LGBT people is not homophobia, it is ignorance.
      Most people, when faced with the facts can see for themselves that all we want is what everybody else has, concedes and understands. I think Boris did just that. It would be nice to have him on record supporting us though.

      1. Midnighter 18 Aug 2012, 8:34pm

        Yes in general some might, and it is laudable accept that point where well demonstrated. And yet Boris is all talk no action when it comes to LGBT issues as far as I can see. His tune may have changed to suit the times, but his dance is the same. He made flippant comments about a promised LGBT manifesto before the mayoral election, and that attitude struck me as nothing other than cynical and patronising.

    2. You’re absolutely right, Tony.
      What amazes me even more is the significant number of supporters he has in the LGBT community, who either vote for him or defend his homophobic comments against one’s better judgment.

  3. It seems like a video is unnecessary. Mr Johnson has been perfectly eloquent with his procrastination and previous unambiguous statements.

    Another homophobe. Nothing to see here. Move on.

  4. Good luck with getting him to make a video! I think we may have more chance of seeing pigs fly!

  5. His main consideration will be how this will affect his chances of leadership of the tory party. Nothing else will matter.

    1. Cardinal Capone 17 Aug 2012, 12:52pm

      Since he is actively avoiding leadership on the issue, unlike Cameron, he would just be a glove puppet, not a great leader. He is leading (a bit) on the new airport, but he hasn’t succeeded so far.

      1. it seems his lack of clear support for ssm is a big hit with torys grass roots

  6. David Wainwright 17 Aug 2012, 10:18am

    Boris’ commitment to LGBT issues was made most apparent at his absence from World Pride London and his lack of action in helping to save it from fiasco. Boris Doris has moved on and his energies are now directed towards becoming leader , forget Boris Doris and look for someone who cares .

  7. Has Boris stated that he supports marriage equality or not?

    If so then is it really necessary to record a video (especially seeing as there is nothing Boris can do to introduce marriage equality as he is not the government).

    A video is a nice gesture but remains simply that – a gesture.

    (I’m far from being either a Tory or a Boris fan – I just think this is making a mountain out of a molehill.)

    1. Staircase2 17 Aug 2012, 6:32pm

      As usual…you’re completely missing the point…

      The whole POINT of the videos is to create a tipping point in the media to counter the idea that ‘no one cares about marriage equality apart from a couple of militant poofs’

      PR IS important – its the difference between life and death – literally

      It’s the thing which gives hope to young LGBT kids stuck in a homophobic rut

      Perhaps you could spend just one percent of that brain you regularly use on here to post crap instead on actually THINKING about what it is you write before posting eh?

  8. Johnson promised an LGBT manifesto ahead of the mayoral elections, failed to produce one and still got elected. That’s a pretty clear message both to him and to us – he doesn’t need to pretend to care and there’s not a lot we can do about it.

    A question from Tom Copley and a letter to the Equalities Office from Tom Kirkpatrick hardly equal pressure ‘piling on’.

  9. My local MP (Karl McCartney – Conservative, Lincoln) promised at the hustings (answering a direct question from myself) that LGBT people can look forward to equality under a Conservative government and then went on (after being elected) to actively oppose equal citizenship for LGBT people.
    The moral?
    Never trust a politician. Ever.

    1. Cardinal Capone 17 Aug 2012, 5:07pm

      Well strictly then he didn’t say to you he supported it, he said the government would. He just didn’t tell you he opposed it ;)

  10. Robert in S. Kensington 17 Aug 2012, 12:43pm

    Politicians say anything to get elected, most of them lie. They only support us when they want to get elected in the name of political expediency. What they say and do are two different matters. As the saying goes, action speaks louder than words. Expect nothing!

    1. Staircase2 17 Aug 2012, 6:27pm

      What did you have to say on the subject of Ken Livingston prior to the election…?

      1. Spanner1960 20 Aug 2012, 2:16pm

        Livingstone’s a toadying little c**t. always was, always will be.

  11. He doesn’t have to answer to anyone, if you keep hounding him I feel the LGBT Community will come worst off, if he wants to do it, let him do it in his own good and time. Stop hounding him, we will get a bad name.

    1. He does have to answer to the electorate in London – that’s his job.

      And that’s not a great attitude – don’t rattle the cage in case the bars make a noise. Don’t make a fuss and let’s be grateful for what we’ve got. Homosexuality would still be illegal if we all took that attitude.

      1. Staircase2 17 Aug 2012, 6:26pm

        Well said!

    2. David Wainwright 17 Aug 2012, 1:54pm

      I hope you are not including me in that we as I do not agree with you , he wont be doing anything positive for you and me anytime soon all Boris doris is interested in is Boris Doris , get it ? got it ? GOOD >

    3. Staircase2 17 Aug 2012, 6:26pm

      ‘bad name’ my arse!

      Shame on you for even suggesting we should put up and shut up in order to maintain some kind of fcvked up fluffy notion of LGBT ‘properness’

      …working for Boris are we…?

  12. It’s obvious that LGBT equality is at the bottom of Johnson’s priority list despite being the mayor of the city with the largest gay and lesbian population in Europe.

  13. Cardinal Capone 17 Aug 2012, 1:33pm

    If he has his eyes set on Westminster, could it be said he has ideas above his station?

    1. And abilities.

  14. Suddenly Last Bummer 17 Aug 2012, 1:58pm

    Somehow seeing the word ‘piles’ in a headline regarding Boris Johnson just seems to be appropriate.

  15. I think he’s a joke. But i’m not laughing.

  16. Staircase2 17 Aug 2012, 6:23pm

    I do hope all the Pink News ‘commentators’ who shamefully used Pink News as a platform to besmirch Ken Livingston’s Mayoral Election campaign are now throughly ashamed of themselves…

    This is the truth of Boris, affable and bumptious though he is, he’s not the best candidate for the job of responsibly leading a city as large as London. He’s more concerned about his media image and political prospects the he is about the people who live and work in London.

    Sadly that’s also true about his attitudes towards London’s LGBT communities.

    The Boris campaign shamefully bamboozled LGBT people into swinging away from supporting Ken’s campaign with faked character assassinations; there are many of you reading this who took up this banner in order to sway the other LGBT readers.

    Shame on you

    1. Spanner1960 20 Aug 2012, 2:19pm

      FAKED!!?? Ken di that totally on his own. He managed to bugger up London twice before, do you really think Londoners will get fooled by him a third time?
      STOP PRESS: Boris made the video, so please will you and your lefty conspiracy theories please put a sock in it.

  17. pathetic!
    this man sabotaged gay pride in London this year. How naive do you gay tory tw@ts have to be?

  18. Paul from Brighton 17 Aug 2012, 9:31pm

    The guys nasty, end of.

  19. still has the paralympics to go perhaps it will show up after they have finished.

  20. He can use the Olympics and Paralympics as an excuse but he doesn’t want to do it. Not just for political reasons but because he has no compassion for us. I hope he is squirming under this pressure. Even if he never makes the video loads of Gay Tories will find an excuse to support him. Self-loathing.

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