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St Petersburg: Madonna accused of breaking anti-gay law and branded a whore

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  1. Madonna can comment on human rights violation, the grotesque over-reaching of the state and possibly even infer collusion with a brutal dictatorship.

    Their retort? She likes sex and has had fair bit of it.

    Oh the horror. Oh the humanity. Oh the bitter and frustrated words of a weak little man. He doesn’t have the political savvy to know that it makes him look like a snivelling impotent twerp. And Madonna? Hooray for her – she cannot be “slut shamed” because she has said from the very beginning that sex is fun, people do it, she does it , and it’s only a big deal to those who don’t but wish they did.

  2. Christopher Hobe Morrison 11 Aug 2012, 7:08pm

    Just goes to show there isn’t really that much difference between Putin and Zhironovsky, other than that Zhironovsky is more honest.

    1. USSR. Russia. One big country. One state apparatus run by different mafias. End of discussion. Not to be trusted. Different dynamics, same dangerous results.

  3. Hey – the only ones allowed to call Madonna a whore is us gays.

    1. Hodge Podge 12 Aug 2012, 12:47pm

      …no we aren’t?

    2. Misogyny by gay men is just another form of self-hatred, masquerading as hatred of women.

      The hatred of the feminine, the receptive and non-masculine is the common ground that many gay men dare not face.

  4. Suddenly Last Bummer 11 Aug 2012, 10:44pm

    How ineloquent, bigoted and downright shameful of a member of the Russian parliament but I wasn’t really expecting anything different.

  5. Let’s face it, the latest tour has been a desperate farrago on the back of an appalling soul-long-since-sold album whose cheapness and nursery-rhyme lyrics would have made a performer a third of her age blush..

    Her credibility in tatters and star long since faded, she resorts to gimmicks and cheap stunts to grab attention and fails miserably.

    Cher was the age Madonna is now when she topped the global charts in 1998 with Believe, showing how you can be 53, sassy, and with a tea; ear for what makes a hit song with it.

    Madonna is fast becoming an end-of-the-pier show and, at worst, the old dog that just won’t lie down and stop yelping.

    Cringe-makingly embarrassing, and sad that many gay men bow at her every warble…

    1. i think russian lgbt would disagree with your little rant

    2. She is speaking out and has been an LGBT advocate for a very long time. Her music isn’t to my taste (funny thing about taste, there is no right or wrong to it, no matter how hard you try to suggest otherwise) but I appreciate that she is making herself heard on what is a deeply important matter for LGBT people in Russia.

      1. Speaking up doesn’t help, how don’t you understand! We don’t need her words of support – we need her actions! We asked her to cancel the show to make a statement. If all big international stars stop coming here and make a clear statement as of the reasons, it might help sooner than all the bla-bla-bla. Yet, what we see is that taking Russian money is more important to Madonna.

        1. There were LGBT groups in Russia who asked her to cancel but there were others who disagreed and asked her to come. She came she drew attention to the issue, and it’s been talked about all over the world.

          No offence but otherwise there is no way the mainstream press in the US/UK/etc would care about LGBT people in St Petersburg.

          1. Well, but which is more important: your mainstream press writing about it or our local authorities changing their ways? Stop thinking about yourself only. Are we only a means for the British press to sell? It’s obvious that the words don’t help, writing about it doesn’t help. However, forcing the authorities not via words but via real actions very well could. Actions could help to make a real change instead of giving somebody an opportunity to write an article or two, followed by a river of ignorant comments dragging my country through mud. I can’t help but think that all you want is an opportunity say vile things about Russia yet again and not actually help.

      2. Yes Valksy, she is making herself heard, but for all the WRONG reasons.

        It seems some gay men will continue blindly worshipping at the altar of Madonna and be apologists for her ome what may.

        1. Thank you for sharing your prejudice with us all. It doesn’t even cross your mind that I am NOT a man, does it. But keep repeating your tedious blather if it makes you feel better.

    3. I don’t think with her money, Raising Malawi charity and consistent pro gaY remarks she is going to bother about a bitter queen like yourself

    4. Suddenly Last Bummer 12 Aug 2012, 11:24am

      Elton, is that you?

      1. If Samuel B is Elton John then some of the things he has to say about HIV are rather alarming…

  6. This old crank Madonna must shut up and stop pursuing rotten causes!

    1. Rotten causes? Human rights? I think it’s you ‘Sampsons’ who is the ‘Old crank!’

  7. Christopher 12 Aug 2012, 3:19am

    The Madonna/whore complex!!

    Never blame the customers of a whore, just the lady who is branded as such…

    Did Russia miss the 20th Century completely???????

    1. Suddenly Last Bummer 12 Aug 2012, 11:26am

      Well yes, yes they did and it looks like they’ve tuned out for this century also.

    2. No, just most Russian men. The women’s punk band on trial in Moscow at present seem as up to date as any.

  8. I think what Madonna did was right I am a big fan of her human rights views. Russia is becoming like a homopobic dictatorship.

  9. this has nothing to do with children but rather their own insecurities that they cannot face up to,

    1. If only it didn’t have anything to do with children, but, much worse than the Thatcherite Section 28 (which only applied within schools), this will be really harming the children in the countries enacting such laws. It limits what they can read and watch, it teaches them sexual minorities are hated by their country and that haters have power which can be turned on anyone. It will promote bullying, and prevent assistance for victims, which poisons whole schools. For older children is will prevent sexual education and health protection. For the transsexual or gender-variant children, who can be highly visible before school age, it will be just a total disaster; their parents will probably be arrested, and anyone not persecuting them too, on the false grounds of them having been “influenced” to be that way.

  10. Vo Dong Cung 12 Aug 2012, 9:09am

    I see the Madonna’s body and the body of Rogozin’s mother are created exactly the same.

  11. so what she has an opinion on your actions, the majority of the west hold the same view … what are the russian government gonna do about it?

    1. Hopefully not up the price of oil, gas, or wheat shipments.

  12. I’m not particularly a fan of Madonna but I find it sickening that any GLBT people would find anything negative to say about her stance in Russia. She has long been a supporter of the Gay community so calling this a cheap publicity stunt is pathetic. If you are that bitter and cynical I feel sorry for you.

    1. That sums up my feelings about Sir Elt’s attack perfectly. Thanks.

  13. Paddyswurds 12 Aug 2012, 1:34pm

    Speaking as someone who has never liked this New York low end freak show, I am appalled by her behaviour. If she were fifty odd years younger then fine but a woman about to ring the door bell of seventy, should not be displaying her aging skeleton to anyone never mind teenagers…… She is starting to look desperate, if that were possible, as she has always seemed to me a little desperate.
    I think it is time she retired to a dusty mansion in the Hamptons and counted her millions while she awaits her grandchildren………..

    1. If she were fifty odd years younger she’d be a toddler or not even born yet, depending on how many “odd” years you add onto 50.

      I think you have serious problems if you think someone who stands up for the human rights of LGBT people in Russia is a low end freak show. I fail to see how doing so is appalling behaviour.

    2. I agree to an extent, Paddyswurds, but this is not about age per se, but rather about sting your age.

      Why should people be put out to pasture at 53?

      Cripes, that means I only have 20 years left before I am considered over the hill!!

      Now, if Madge had come out at 53 with her Ray of Light album or Confessions on a Dance Floor she would have been lauded for producing a work of age-defying substance.

      Cher got away with it at 53 because although Believe was lightweight fluff, it was infectious dance music with it.

      One has to seriously wonder why, at 53, Madonna decided to produce her least credible work when she needed more than anything to win credibility to defy her critics.

      Instead she has played into their hands:- cheap songs, cheap stunts, cheap Janet Jackson impersonation, and an absolute laughing stock:- well, those who were not booing her offstage, that is…

      Just because someone stands up for LGBT rights doesn’t preclude them from being a washed up has-been!

    3. Your misogyny seems to have really twisted your reality. Where did you get the idea she is nearly 70? And if she looked as she does, and was nearly 70, it still wouldn’t justify your attitude. People are buying her recordings and tickets, and publishing pictures and videos worldwide (along with the exposure of her human rights causes); is anything you do being validated in such a clear manner?

      1. Paddyswurds 12 Aug 2012, 10:57pm

        What the phuc has misogyny got to do with it. said similar things about Paul McCartney but you refrained from whining then. No, I think Madge has had her day, talentless as it has been.
        I would hazard a guess that had there not been a certain amount of risque behaviour on her part down the years she would not have been quite so successful.
        I have the same problem with any of these so call pop stars who come on stage practically naked. They must, because they have no talent to fall back on, so distraction is the name of the game.Your assertion of the success of this vile harridan says more about those who bought her tickets than her really. It means they have not the foggiest idea of culture or talent, but will mindlessly follow the herd.

        1. “they have not the foggiest idea of culture or talent”…

          And you do?

          Most of your tirade against her has been because of her age, and THAT is incredibly offensive to any of us here who happen to be the same age as her. What are you, 12? Anyone over 21 is “old”?

          I don’t think Madonna is the be-all and end-all of culture art and music. She’s a pop singer. Period. I can name hundreds of other artists who merit considerably more fanfare.

          But THAT doesn’t change the simple fact that your little rant was vile and incredibly offensive. You do nothing but prove that you are naught but a classless boor.

          1. Paddyswurds 13 Aug 2012, 3:33pm

            Well not a completely classless boor….I wouldn’t be caught dead at any “concert” staged by Madge Richie or any of the talentless bints of her ilk whose main “talent” seems to be prancing around naked on stage in front of ill educated teenagers who think culture is something the Doc does with your latest clap test. If my “rant” comment was offensive then that is a measure of the subject matter and is frankly unavoidable. Oh and BTW, I am a 61 yo retired computer engineer.

  14. An extremist Russian politician calling a Western woman a whore is about as meaningful the Saudi police of vice and virtue calling her a whore. Not very.

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