Once again, that damned procreation nonsense rears it’s ugly head at the end of this article. They are all on the same page everywhere you go.
The sole purpose of marriage for heterosexuals is NOT procreation. Hasn’t it occurred to those numbskulls that not all heteros can procreate, even married ones. Yet again, its the christian right wingers’ obsession with the penis/vagina sex act even if it doesn’t yield children.
Well of course the Bavarian CSU would object, we all know how liberal and gay friendly the Bavarians are. And who else is Bavarian? Oh, yes, Herr Ratzinger, who is so in favour of gay unions.
Germany is so behind the curve it’s an embarrassment to the whole EU.
Bavaria is seen as the most conservative of the German states and no doubt attitudes lag behind those in Berlin, Hamburg, Frankfurt or Cologne. In some ways Bavaria is closer to Austria as well as just geographically.
Bloody hell, why didn’t they sort the tax thing when they brought in CPs? Crazy. As I was reading the article I was thinking surely nobody will object to this! Cue Gerda Hasselfeldt. Moooooooo!
well gay couples aren’t treated the same for tax purposes here in the UK either – straight couples get more back then gay and lesbian couples (who are treated as both men for tax purposes which equals less in total then a man and woman)
Why are they piece mealing their equality? Why not give gay couples equal rights in EVERYTHING. There’s only one way to really accomplish this is it’s actually very simple. Stop withholding marriage from gay couples.
DO YOU BRITISH GUYS Still THINK That YOUR GOVERNMENT IS A SHAME?
WE DON’T EVEN HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS IN REGISTERED PARTNERSHIPS!
GREETS FROM GERMANY
Greetings too but please turn your caps off! ;-)
It’s interesting that Germany, having been ahead of countries like Britain only 10 years ago, when it introduces Eingetragene Lebensparterschaften – some years ahead of the UK, is now just about the most backward country in the whole of western Europe when it come’s to gay equality – with the exception only of Italy.
As someone who admires so much else in German society I can only urge them to get a move on…
Actually, Caspar, Greece and those Baltic states aren’t much better either. What amazes me is that Germany, the wealthiest country in Europe with the strongest economy, best educated society, better economic policies than any country on the planet, a manufacturing base, the envy of the most of the western world, hardly affected by the global melt-down in 2008 is so far behind. It’s behaving like the United States to some extent. Get rid of Merkel and things may change.
I think it has been more hat it has not been a priority than that Germany is backward. Remember also that the FDP/CDU/CSU coalition has tended to be fairly socially conservative. It will change though and the next election will see a socially liberal government bringing in full gay marriage.
On what basis do you say that? All the polls show that the CDU/CSU are way out in front (latest one was 10% ahead of the social democrats). There wouldn’t be enough seats for a Red-Green coalition. The most likely result right now is a Grand Coalition between the CDU/CSU and the SPD. The only way I would see equal marriage passing in that scenario is if the SPD go against their coalition partners (more so the country bumpkins of the CSU than the CDU) and vote for a private member’s bill. This scenario happened recently (Green member’s bill) and the liberal FDP refused to vote for it on that basis (pathetic excuse). The SPD, being bigger and more bolshy than the SPD, may be inclined to stick to their principles… my point is that equal marriage is extremely unlikely to come out about as a result of a government bill in the next German parliament.
The SPD being bigger and more bolshy than the FDP, is what I meant to say!
Look, a majority of the German people support equal marriage as has been shown in several polls. It is also policy of the SPD, Linkspartei and the Greens to introduce equal marriage and everyone expects a combination of two or more of those to form the next government. The CSU is Germany’s most socially conservative party so it is hardly surprising they are against it. But it is heartening to see the CDU inching towards reform.
Why not just simplify things buy making gay couples equal to other marriage couples by introducing gay marriages?
Gay marriage would be different marriage, and might still have different taxation. What is needed everywhere is equal access to the same marriage as everyone else – equal marriage.
At least someone is now calling for equal tax benefits, which is better late than never I suppose and let’s hope that something happens with their laws in the not too distant future.
Shouldn’t it be ‘equal rights’ for all gay couples in all things! Just be brave CDU, get on with it!