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Scotland: SNP activist resigns over ‘undemocratic’ equal marriage decision

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  1. What could be more democratic than ensuring all law-abiding and tax-paying citizens are treated equally under the civil law of the land?

    … oh, that’s right. You just don’t like gay people (I don’t even care your bloody reason – it is meaningless – but your pandering to “democracy” is an act of utter mendacity).

    Fine. Walk/Pier. Nothing of value is lost.

    1. de Villiers 3 Aug 2012, 11:19pm

      His difficulty, I think, is that homosexuality should be treated equally. It is impossible for all citizens to be treated equally under the civil law without identifying the characteristic.

      For example, it is likely that those who enter England temporarily on expatriate contacts will not to be treated equally in terms of benefit entitlement. Or that those over the age of ninety have the same access to free education as those over the age of twelve but under the age if eighteen.

      Some discrimination is capable of rational justification whereas other forms must be scrutinised more carefully.

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 4 Aug 2012, 12:24pm

      I bet he’d say he has gay friends like all homophobes do when challenged, therefore he can’t be a homophobe! So lame, so dishonest but so transparent. Anne Widdecombe is a classic example of that.

  2. Good stuff

  3. I’m sure the SNP will not be greatly worried to lose someone who regards some humans as more equal than others because of how they were born.

    1. Unless it’s one of their major donors, Brian Souter, who funded the pro-Section 28 campaign in Scotland…

  4. Pavlos Prince of Greece 3 Aug 2012, 6:13pm

    Good luck and good night!

  5. Good riddance !

    He’ll have nowhere else to go.

    No other party will want him, apart from the BNP or UKIP, and they’re not exactly big noises in the Highlands and Islands.

  6. Bye bye, silly old fool!

  7. Bye then…

    Shut the door quietly on the way out…

  8. Just using his bigotry to play to the gallery.

    If I or anyone else suggested that equality for minority groups of any sort should depend on majority approval there would, quite rightly be outrage. Equality for any group is just basic decency in any civilised society surely?

  9. Good riddance to bad rubbish. We don’t want old fossils beyond retirement age who can’t keep up with the changes of the modern world. Bigots like this who seek to make the lives of people worse should have no place in any form of government.

    1. Paul Brownsey 3 Aug 2012, 7:26pm

      Why are you using “beyond retirement age” to abuse this guy, as though being retirement age meant that of course you weren’t a proper part of the human community and could rightly be treated with hatred and contempt for that alone?

    2. de Villiers 3 Aug 2012, 11:20pm

      That sounds like discrimination on grounds of age. Look how easy it is to discriminate!

    3. @Dromio

      > “Old fossils beyond retirement age”

      Bigots like Dromio who treat older people with such contempt should have no place in Pink News ! It works both ways.

      (Of course, as I said earlier, in the case of Robert Stewart it’s a case of Good Riddance, but that’s because of his anti-equality views and not his age.)

      1. I absolutely agree with Paul Brownsey, de Villiers and Gerry – ageist comments peddling disrespect and contempt for people who are 60+ is in exactly the same intolerent league as racism, sexism and homophobia. Dromio – hopefully you will be 60 one day – do you really want society to mock you as ‘an old fossil’ to be belittled and ignored as irrelevant? I think you should apologise for your comments.

  10. I’m sure you’ll be sorely missed and that you left only with great reluctance.
    Is there a job – or a ‘consultancy’ – with a company run by Kirk happy-clappies waiting for you somewhere, by any chance?

  11. It is worth examining this a bit more, as Mr Stewart (although ill advised in his manner of comment) may not be saying the things that some in the media are portraying him as saying.

    In his letter to the SNP leadership he states that he has resigned not in protest at the policy but in response to the way the decision was handled by leaders, which he feared could become an “elected dictatorship”. In his letter he said “I am not a church person, am not married to the person I live with and been divorced twice. Some people might call me a hypocrite. But this is all about democracy and proper consultation, and that has not happened. I’m a great believer in grassroots democracy and not elected dictatorships. I had always believed the SNP was the only party that listened to people and I was besotted with the party, but this decision has come as a great shock to me and I’m finding it hard to get my head round what is happening. I believe the move is a needless distraction before the

    1. referendum on independence

      I think Stewart is misguided and fails to understand civil rights and equality. I think he misunderstands how inequality damages and harms LGBT people. I do not think he is necessarily against equal marriage per se – but he certainly is not a supporter.

      It seems he is more concerned about the organisation and running of the SNP than any particular ethical or theocratic views on marriage.

      1. What does he think the consultation was?

        1. Well exactly!

      2. @Stu

        Yeah, right. Sounds like he’s just looking for a veneer of justification when there isn’t one.

        1. Yeah I wasnt seeking to excuse him, just thinking that the presumptions about religiousity might not be accurate.

    2. Perhaps a referendum on whether serial divorcees should be allowed to remarry. Otherwise they risk undermining the tradition and institution of marriage, something which Mr Stewart and people like him are so concerned about apparently? Even though he is living in sin and guilty of fornication?

    3. Billy wingartson 4 Aug 2012, 1:36am

      immagine what would have happened in the USA south if there had been a consultation or referendum on slavery

  12. As we say in the American South, “Don’t let the door hit’ya where the good lord split’ya!”

  13. what a child throwing his toys out of his pram, forgeting about his constiuents which might actually need him to do something worthwhile rather then stand in front of others legal rights.

    1. That’s what I was thinking. These departing moves politicians (and some unforgiving churchgoers) throw, are like prima donnas throwing a hissy fit. Only non of the departing can sing in the first place.

  14. Billy wingartson 4 Aug 2012, 1:33am

    Tell him to not let the door knob hit him where his good lord split him.

    it might also split his hemorrhoids from too much dry sex.

  15. In other words he was looking for an excuse to resign anyway.
    Less bigots, and hence true democracy in parliament, the better.
    Good bye.

  16. Didums….

    So in the past the SNP has done everything 100% democatically etc etc and he’s been in agreement with everything they’ve done BUT on this particular issue (fancy that!) they’ve acted badly so he resigns…

    C’mon…he’s just an old homophobe who can’t stand the thought of gays having equal rights and the SNP are well rid of him. It’s probably people like him that are putting many people off joining SNP in the first place.

  17. Craig Nelson 4 Aug 2012, 11:43am

    The first thing is from the write up he is an SNP member not an MP or MSP – individual members, albeit longstanding ones – do leave parties from time to time. The second is this – governments do go beyond their manifestos routinely. This is a normal thing especially in areas such as family and discrimination law.

  18. Robert in S. Kensington 4 Aug 2012, 12:21pm

    Good riddance to this nuisance. Nobody will miss him. As for his doubts about the consultation, what he’s probably implying is that it should have been put to a referendum, echoing the views of CI/C4M.

    Yes, Mr. Stewart, as for your admissions, you are indeed a hypocrite. Enjoy your isolation. I only hope we see some Tory backbenchers south of the border resigning.

  19. Christopher 4 Aug 2012, 1:01pm

    What’s so “democratic” about the tyranny of the majority? Str8’s have denied gays their basic rights for centuries as much as their definition of marriage has changed over the same time period.

    He’s bitter because he’s losing power. Nothing more, nothing less.

  20. Bill (Scotland) 5 Aug 2012, 12:04pm

    Not a fan of the SNP and it is salutary for some to realise it has its homophobic neanderthals just like most other political parties. As if the pretty recent backing from Souter wasn’t already enough of a clue!

  21. Go homophobe. Another one looking for publicity. To be ignored.

  22. Good riddance!

  23. He looks like a bulldog chewing a wasp of a thistle and I am sure that he will not be missed. Anyone who holds such bigoted views should not be involved in politics at all anyway.

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