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Video: Cotswolds councillors appeal for equal marriage debate

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  1. Robert J Brown 27 Jul 2012, 5:32pm

    Liberal Democrats pushing for equality once again . . .

    Robert
    http://www.rainbow-citizen.com

  2. Robert in S. Kensington 27 Jul 2012, 5:52pm

    Even if this is not within the council’s remit, it just goes to show what the Tories think of equal marriage. They just don’t want it and that’s the majority view in their party, sadly. If it’s defeated in a Parliamentary vote, we can blame them and they will retain their title as the nasty party in spite of only a handful who support equality from within. Their worst fear is for a Labour comeback which will probably happen, so either they come to their senses and support it or expect to suffer a huge defeat once again. All of their constituents who are against equal marriage won’t relish the thought of a Labour government and it makes me wonder that staying home as a protest as many have threatened will serve only to hand the next election to the Labour Party the overwhelming majority of which support equal marriage. That’s how stupid they are, including that bunch of Tory voters who signed the C4M petition.

    1. To register my Civil Partnership, I had to go to Council offices and the whole thing was overseen by a council employee and I paid said council £150.00 for the privilege.

      Ergo. It IS in the councils remit should equal CIVIL marriage go ahead.

      1. Spanner1960 27 Jul 2012, 11:48pm

        It is their responsibility, but they can only do what they are told. If Westminster says “do it”, they have absolutely no choice.
        This isn’t some kind of half-arsed federal vs state argument; either they do what they are told or they are sacked and somebody else will do it.

        1. Therefore it is still in the purvue of the councillors to discuss it.

          Voluntary or not.

          1. Spanner1960 28 Jul 2012, 9:20am

            Oh please shut up.
            I don’t pay my council to sit around talking about crap that doesn’t concern them. It is is beyond their remit and shouldn’t even be on the table. They need to start looking at other things like the appalling state of the roads around here instead.

          2. Spanner1960

            However, the council talk about other matters not within their remit (as the publically available minutes for Cotswold DC demonstrate).

            So, you may want people to “shut up” about this – but whilst others (including elected members of the local authority concerned) perceive this as rank homophobia (and I agree), then I will not shut up about the harm certain odious elements of Cotswold DC are demonstrating towards LGBT people.

          3. Spanner1960 28 Jul 2012, 6:07pm

            Stu: Please define “harm”.
            In what possible way is talking, or not talking about same-sex marriage going to affect anybody? It will have about as much effect as it will on the Church: i.e: none whatsoever.

            We have better things be concerned about than a few petty-minded little twats on a local council.

  3. Of course it is not in the council’s remit. The council has no ability to legislate on the matter, so I don’t understand why it should be debated.

    If Joe Harris wants to bring in gay marriage, he should stand for Parliament.

    1. They debated issues related to defence and criminal justice – neither within their remit … why should making a strong stand (whether their remit or not) to support equality be an obstacle for them?

      That many other local authorities have taken such a stance demonstrates there is not a problem in a 5 minute debate on the matter. Failing to do so, and blocking efforts to do so, are portraying an image of the local authority not supporting LGBT people.

  4. David Skinner 28 Jul 2012, 9:20am

    I think this would be wonderful idea. This would be the first public debate on an issue that most are too scared to talk about. Do we not live in a democratic country where we can express our views without fear? The LGBT section of Cirencester can invite, Ben Summerskill and Peter Tatchell to act as advocates and we could also then come along and speak for the people of Cirencester. You organise and we will be there.

    Let’s have an open debate.

    1. Spanner1960 28 Jul 2012, 9:24am

      Oh please, in the nicest possible way, fck right off.
      I left London to avoid muppets like that, and I certainly don’t want them dragged to my part of the world. Cirencester doesn’t have an “LGBT” section; there are only two gay pubs in the whole of Gloucestershire; People just get on with their lives instead.

      1. Dave North 29 Jul 2012, 7:02pm

        You sir are rude.

        You shut up..

        1. Spanner1960 30 Jul 2012, 6:29pm

          Well, one has to be somewhat abrasive to trolls such as Skinner.

  5. David Skinner 28 Jul 2012, 9:30am

    I think this would be wonderful idea. This would be the first public debate on an issue that most are too scared to talk about. Do we not live in a democratic country where we can express our views without fear? The LGBT section of Cirencester can invite, Ben Summerskill and Peter Tatchell to act as advocates and we could also then come along and speak for the people of Cirencester. You organise and we will be there.

    Let’s have an open debate.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 28 Jul 2012, 1:34pm

      And opposition to equal marriage is nothing more than fear and spreading lies and misinformation to promote such fear at whatever cost, you twat.

  6. Other councils have brought similar motions. Why not the Cotswolds? Probably becuase if is runs by the cons and it’s MP has ,against party policy, decided to vote on his own personal feelings and vote against equal civil marriage. I personally in that sitution would welcome the council trying to change their MPs mind. Someone has to stand up for the minority groups in the Cotswolds.

  7. Craig Denney 30 Jul 2012, 9:20pm

    I say congratulations to Cllr Joe Harris.

    I remember trying to get S, Glos Council to support the gay community and the council refusing to publicise ‘anything’ to do with our community.

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